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| So this patch is supose to stop people from boting... https://w.yarrthepirate.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1191 |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | So this patch is supose to stop people from boting... |
"supose to" being the key words. From what ive read this patch stops people from runing in window mode and it also makes it harder for people to do any packet sniffing and also makes it harder for people to run macro programs in the back ground. I can only hope it fix's the bot problems with camping HNMs 
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| Author: | Led [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:50 am ] |
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no yarr, this patch was to /point and /laugh at drgs...... |
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| Author: | Ketrebu [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:55 am ] |
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DRG can throw Pebbles! omgomgomgomgomg!!!11one I also heard that programs like the Windower have now stopped working. For once they have actually changed the "pol.exe" file, instead of just the "polmain.dll" file (or something like that.) They could have made those changes on purpose, or the windowing tools may just have broken because of slight code changes and will take 5 minutes to fix. As for botting, things I have heard: Padded Caps now sell to NPC for 870 gil. The West Sarutabaruta cliffs this morning consisted of: 3 Fishermen, and 7 dead bodies. (Hurray for adding monsters in the newbie zones.) |
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| Author: | Mythrandir [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:02 am ] |
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Well at least I can put back my Insect ball mule in Rabao to sell to all the Moat Carp-turned Rusty-turned back to Moat Carp fishers. |
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| Author: | Shiloh [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:09 am ] |
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Yeah I was talking to a few Programming majors in class a couple days ago that mentioned "packet sniffing" programs. I guess that would explain a lot about how they seem to know not only the time of the spawn but the location as well. If that is the secret Gana was talking about... I can't say I'm suprised... |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:13 am ] |
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yeah its sad, I wish people could see the stuff Gana and his LS says to us. |
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| Author: | Mythrandir [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:47 am ] |
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Bleh, looks like I'm going to steer clear of the dunes for a while. Everyone is going to be getting their bots to the 20-25 range so they can just auto-fight the new mobs they pull up 
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| Author: | Runefury [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:29 am ] |
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Is gana LS that bad T_T' Anyway I like to do a lot of research just to be aware of certain things. The best voke bot I have seen can still be beaten by legit players. Although, I bet there is sometype of super secret bot that only jp with short haircuts have T_T. |
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| Author: | Regnar [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:36 am ] |
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they cant stop more being made but if SE can keep track of these programs and patch against them fast enough...... well ill be happy with them :D Its good to see they aer getting ontop of these botters now. After saying they cant do anything. |
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| Author: | Lildog17 [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:48 pm ] |
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What's a bot exactly?? |
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| Author: | Mythrandir [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:30 pm ] |
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A bot is a character that is being controlled by a third-party script. The script can either read the game's memory space or pixel colors on the screen and react accordingly (like voke Behemoth or hit enter when something snags your fishing line). |
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| Author: | Runefury [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:33 pm ] |
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I might actually find a spot to fish in rabao now... Rabao felt so crowded with all the botters there... |
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| Author: | Plasma [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:40 pm ] |
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ffxi may actually be trying to stop botting now but the botting world just got more advanced as well i won't disclose the website i found on it but pm me if you want it some new program was developed for botting and it reads directly from the ffxi servers no clue how it works but many people seem awfully excited about it |
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| Author: | Ketrebu [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:57 pm ] |
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That's called Packet Sniffing. Basically you have another computer set up to read network transmissions while you watch the game on the other PC. For example, you could notice that every time you catch a fish, a particular HEX pattern is sent to you from the server. Eventually you can script the packet sniffer to do stuff when certain patterns arrive from the server. Hard to stop, unless they keep cycling the network code. |
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| Author: | Lildog17 [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:09 pm ] |
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So i'm guessing by those descriptions, it's not possible to "bot" from PS2? Man, we get robbed on everything (PS2 users). 1. You all got the game way before us 2. You all can change almost every aspect of display of the game, and certain items in game. (I.E. moggles in mog house) 3. "Botting" 4. The list goes on......................... |
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| Author: | Runefury [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:45 pm ] |
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MEDIC!! BOTTER DOWN 
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| Author: | Volrath [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:01 pm ] |
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lildog wtf are you talking about about being robbed of everything. You can bot on ps2, ever heard of a turbo controller? it can work the same way as a bot, spamming provoke until you claim closest mob. ( I'm not condoning botting, just giving an example) Also did you know that mobs do show up on PS2 much sooner than on PC? |
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| Author: | Whisp [ Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:48 pm ] |
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Lildog17 wrote: What's a bot exactly??
well, since you asked... http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/robots.php |
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| Author: | Xiona [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:50 am ] |
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zoned into Rabao... 20 ppl there, thats including Icespice teh bazaar person, me and another person i was with passing thru!! |
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| Author: | Regnar [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:10 am ] |
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packet sniffing can be made harder if they use encryption on the packets but again if you have a copy of the game you would have the cyper to decode it, its an endless circle but if SE can patch like once every 2-4 weeks 1 file that changes the codes it would mean the software is a bitch to keep up with, till they begin then reading directly from ffxi for the cypers etc... god why do programmers have to get so smart 
Anyhow all you can do is be annoing and change the software against that particular method of botting, at the end of the day it costs too much to try and keep up on the botters all we can hope for is that we can beat them in those split seconds on the vokes.... |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:04 am ] |
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Whisp wrote: Lildog17 wrote: What's a bot exactly?? well, since you asked... http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/robots.php lol how did i know whisp was gonna chime in with that one. |
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| Author: | Alderan [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:17 am ] |
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Volrath wrote: Also did you know that mobs do show up on PS2 much sooner than on PC?
yea thats so true i always switch to my PS2 when i HNM camp everyones always like "it popped purple to me" when i had the time to voke/dia it |
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| Author: | Kayne [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:58 am ] |
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It hasn't stopped Murasakisikibu the HNM claim botter. Also hasn't stopped Circle of Greed either. |
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| Author: | Regnar [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:11 am ] |
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Kayne wrote: It hasn't stopped Murasakisikibu the HNM claim botter. Also hasn't stopped Circle of Greed either.
At least its a step in the right direction 
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| Author: | Kioto [ Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:48 am ] |
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I think stopping a power provoke bot will be close to impossible. There are too many sophisticated bots out there, that are more in depth then people think, some to most will function as if there was really a person behind the keyboard. Mouse clicks and movements, keyboard input emulation is what most bots are based on, and that, will be hard to stop, since its outside the game. SE has no control whatsoever of what runs on the background of FFXI. |
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