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Author:  Denchi [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:09 am ]
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so how do the different races compare at higher levels? Are Galka ideal for tanking? Humans? Taru Taru? I never got to 75 to see, but I was always under the impression Galka's had it tough early on as far as Pld's went, but that later on they gained a lot of power in tanking. Just wondering.


I ask now because you have a couple Human Pld, and now Triddy and Fattino walking around, so you guys can actually compare.
Author:  Devrim27 [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:47 am ]
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Now now, we all know that Galka are the best race out there.
Author:  Pantherxx [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:44 am ]
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Devrim27 wrote:
Now now, we all know that Galka are the best race out there.


well they have higher hit points for sure as tank but they SUCK in magic. :lol:
Author:  Vurin [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:49 am ]
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Almost all of CKD's paladins wear lots of Mp -> Hp stuff such as Cassie earing. So sucking at magic really isn't that big of a deal.
Author:  Denchi [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:00 pm ]
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I'm asking from an HNM standpoint, or a Dynamis standpoint, how the different races stack up?
Author:  Rubyxiii [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:03 pm ]
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imo race matters little at higher levels, end game gear evens most of it out.
Author:  Reinheld [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 1:27 pm ]
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Ya, race is pretty moot. Even though galkas take up too much of my screen.
Author:  Darksoul [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 2:14 pm ]
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elven are best plds for ur money.

u dun really have to be great in magic..just able to use the mp to get hate.
Author:  ariaa [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:40 pm ]
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I hate being in parties with galkas, I cant ever see anything.
Author:  Reinheld [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:30 pm ]
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It's all about talent. Peejo could outtank any elvaan PLD on the server, any time.
Author:  Tooyooo [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:38 pm ]
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ariaa wrote:
I cant never see anything.


hmmmm i think ur missing one more negative to make the negative sentence negative. Since two negatives make it a positive.

"I cant never see nothing." :lol:
Author:  Darksoul [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:50 pm ]
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Reinheld wrote:
It's all about talent. Peejo could outtank any elvaan PLD on the server, any time.


i thought the point of this thread was not skill. We are talking races, in which elvaan are the best all around.
Author:  Vurin [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:07 pm ]
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Elvaan are probably best all around but the difference between say an Elvaan and a Hume is almost nil when you get right down to it.

I do feel Taru kinda suck since they don't have the 1500+ hp to soak damage, but as far as taking damage per hit all are relatively equal. And comes down to gear since Triddy has Koenig pieces and what not with +10 vit on each.
Author:  Darksoul [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:35 pm ]
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id say elvan take the pie over humes primarily b/c of the more base vit.
Author:  Vurin [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:59 pm ]
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Look when you have 120+ vit ( I'm assuming triddy has about this much) +4 vit either way doesn't matter much at all. You just as easily say the difference in agility makes more of a difference since there's a chance to dodge/parry/block.

After all whats better taking 1-2 less dmg per hit or avoiding 1 or 2 hits for 2-300 dmg.

Basically just trying to reiterate the fact that it doesn't matter much. I don't disagree, but nor do I think you should care so much. After all not like you're going to be a 75 paladin anytime soon.

I'd rather have a taru paladin who loved playing than a Galka Pald only being one because they are uber.

Much liek I'd rather have a Bard that loves what he does rather than a Bard who was one because it was easy street to 75.
Author:  ariaa [ Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:22 pm ]
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I hit the n on accident, you try typing with a 2 year old hanging on your arm going 'Mommy, Nemo!' over and over again. =P
Author:  Plasma [ Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:45 am ]
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tarutaru are the best plds because the look pimp as all hell with koenig armor on ;)

hands down
Author:  Sythos [ Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:11 am ]
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ariaa wrote:
I hit the n on accident, you try typing with a 2 year old hanging on your arm going 'Mommy, Nemo!' over and over again. =P



Oh, I can SOOO relate to that. Now she is two and a half and it has evolved into "I wanna watch Jonah!" (Veggie Tales) I don't think Nemo has been in the DVD player for two months...
Author:  Whisp [ Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:45 pm ]
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1 hit would put kamril in the orange but he made up for it by constantly curing himself
Author:  Arim [ Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:24 pm ]
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Tarus are just way better than everything, period.
Author:  Peejo [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:28 am ]
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From a high end perspective, with the gear that's tailoring toward the race (make up the weakness), I'd say it goes from:

Galk - > Hume -> Elv -> Taru

Here's why:

On HNM, you really don't care about anything other than HP, VIT, and AGI.

Taru naturally lost on the hp department consider the hp gear they can wear, so does everyone else. Before Adaman armor came out I'd say hume > galk any day. However, the armor totally make up the weak mp for galk and they'll still get to keep their vit slots to have close or more hp than any other race out there. And since you really don't need more than 200mp for HNM fight, even galka can wear the mp-> hp gear to give them even more hp. For others, hume in particular would wear cassie and pigeon earrings for HNM fights. (CKD has/d 4 hume - shiloh, ket, me,dionil, 1 taru - triddy, and 2 elv - eme, droutout)

Why do I believe elv is not as good as hume? It's due to their nature low AGI. Yes, all pld has low agi, however a hume can wear mp-> hp earrings and still have more agi than an elv with 2 agi earrings. AGI helps to reduce the chance of getting crit from the monsters and also dodge. So that's why elv isn't as good as hume in that department. As for VIT, it only matters every 10 VIT. So if you have someone with 151 VIT and someone with 158 VIT, that really makes no difference. As for HNM since most of them have a much greater atk than a pld's defense, VIT really makes no huge difference as long as a pld's gear isn't totally outdated.

To sum it up, without taking in the skill involve what race makes a best "high end pld" I'd say Galk -> Hume -> Elv -> Taru.

But what really makes a great pld? It's the player's skill and gear. A tarutaru with the correct play style and gear, he/she can be a much better pld than anyone out there. -- Just look at Triddy. He has the style, the skill, and the look - OMGZ.

PS: Thanks Rein :P
Author:  Krazybean [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:55 am ]
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Peejo wrote:
I'd say it goes from:
Galk - > Hume -> Elv -> Taru


I'd have to agree, being hume i've spent ALOT of gil on HP+ and MP->HP items. I'm an ok tank i guess :P
Author:  Whisp [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:55 am ]
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Peejo wrote:
Galk - > Hume -> Elv -> Taru

Where would you say Mithra ranks?
Author:  Krazybean [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:57 am ]
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Whisp wrote:
Peejo wrote:
Galk - > Hume -> Elv -> Taru

Where would you say Mithra ranks?


Between Elv -> Taru?
Author:  Peejo [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:05 pm ]
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Whisp wrote:
Peejo wrote:
Galk - > Hume -> Elv -> Taru

Where would you say Mithra ranks?


Hmm right, there's another race called Mithra :P

Without looking up their exact stats, I'd say Mithra is between Hume and Elv.

Why between Hume and Elv? Mithra's AGI is much higher (that's one reasons they makes great NIN); however, if my memory serve me right, mithra has rather low VIT which could also possibly put them behind Elv.

Again, player's skill + gear > RACE in any day!
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