Yarr The Pirate! :: View topic - Holy shit! SE just fucked over bots!

- The number of "glass sheets" produced by synthesis has been changed.

- An issue where the birds in Bibiki Bay known as "tragopans" did not drop crystals has been addressed.

- Players will no longer be able to use spells or abilities to claim a monster as soon as it appears.
If players attempt to use spells or abilities to claim a monster before a set amount of time has passed since it appeared, they will not be able to use those spells etc. again for a certain duration.

Players will no longer be able to use spells or abilities to claim a monster as soon as it appears.
If players attempt to use spells or abilities to claim a monster before a set amount of time has passed since it appeared, they will not be able to use those spells etc. again for a certain duration.

King Arthro / Simurgh / Roc / Serket / Capricious Cassie /Lord of Onzozo / Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg
*This time period will vary for each notorious monster.

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what exactly is that mean? or am I failing reading comprehension today o.o???

I read the JP version also... and it looks the same...

nvm: read the post above

you have to wait a few minutes after it rendors for it to be claimable. and they made it so if you say provoke it before its ready to be claimed, you will have a xx amount of time cooldown before you can try and use provoke. meaning bots will spam it at first then be useless because of cool down on ability.

"/blockaid" has the following effect:
Magical assistance (such as "Cure" and "Protect"), trades, party invites etc. from non-party/alliance characters will be blocked.

think of /blockaid as /blacklist except it blocks the action of the person you /blockaid'ed

hccmike> Dood stop curing me, I'm trying to solo this leaping lizzy
reinheld casts cure V on hccmike
hccmike> /blockaid reinheld
reinheld casts cure V on hccmike
cure V have no effect on hccmike
reinheld casts cure V on hccmike
cure V have no effect on hccmike
reinheld casts cure V on hccmike
cure V have no effect on hccmike

Put it this way...

Behemoth pops.

Player A immediately, by reflex hits Provoke, while behemoth sits in his "Unclaimable" state.

Player A's Provoke is nullified, the monster is not claimed, and Player A is no longer able to use Provoke until X amount of time has passed.

Behemoth, after a small period of time (10 seconds maybe?) will return to a claimable state (Yellow) and be open to all players to grab.

Player B hits Provoke after it turns yellow, he recieves no penalty, and the monster is caimed for his alliance.

Basically. You can no longer spam a monster to claim it when it pops. It's still "fastest finger first" but not until the monster is visible to all players in the area and returns to a "claimable" state. And if you "jump the gun" with trying to claim it, you will lose your chance to claim.

Additionally, the /blockaid will prevent people outside alliance from "helping" you in any way. This means people outside your alliance will not be able to trade with you, cast cure's on you, or even poisona you. (I've heard of people using Poisona on people who drink Poison Potion for Cassie)

All I have to say is.... It's about freaking time. But it's still awesome either way.

Author:	Pix [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:20 pm ]
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From:FINAL FANTASY XI Aug. 1, 2005 10:00 [PDT] FINAL FANTASY XI Update (Aug. 1) At the following time, we performed a FINAL FANTASY XI version update. The client software will also be updated at this time. Once this maintenance is completed, the client update will start automatically after logging back into FINAL FANTASY XI. Please follow the instructions that appear on your screen. [Date & Time] Aug. 1, 2005 from 10:00 to 13:00 (PDT) [Affected Services] FINAL FANTASY XI [Important Update Details] - An issue in Azimuth's Circle where it was not possible to obtain the Pumimi or Hopipi doll has been addressed. - The behavior of Fellowship NPCs has been adjusted. - Fellowship NPCs will now disappear after defeating a predetermined number of enemies even if the NPC remains in battle mode. - Signal pearls will now fail to activate when the number of members and Fellowship NPCs in a party totals six or more. - An issue wherein the special properties of certain equipment intended to affect a player's wyvern or avatar extended to Fellowship NPCs has been addressed. - When asking for a new signal pearl, the relationship between a player and a Fellowship NPC will now worsen slightly. - After certain conditions are met, players will be able to keep their Fellowship NPC around for extended adventuring. - An issue where Stona did not cure Level 5 Petrify has been addressed. - An issue where the birds in Bibiki Bay known as "tragopans" did not drop crystals has been addressed. - An issue where players would not gain experience for defeating certain notorious monsters has been addressed. - The message "(Monster name)'s strength is impossible to gauge!" will now be displayed when using the "check" command on pets summoned by notorious monsters. - The notorious monsters listed below will slowly grow in strength after a certain amount of time has passed since being claimed: King Arthro / Simurgh / Roc / Serket / Capricious Cassie /Lord of Onzozo / Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg This time period will vary for each notorious monster. - The name of the notorious monster "Macan Gadungan" has been changed to "Kirata." - The number of "glass sheets" produced by synthesis has been changed. - The drop percentage for "silica" has been adjusted. - Certain other monsters will now drop the item "silica." *Changes in relation to the item "silica" have already been partially implemented. Further changes will be made during today's maintenance. - It is now possible to mine "silica" in Tahrongi Canyon and the Maze of Shakhrami. - An issue concerning the ability to earn experience points from a wider range of monsters (implemented in the July 19 version update) not functioning correctly for levels ten and below has been addressed. - An issue where spells such as "Dispel" and songs such as "Magic Finale" did not affect the white magic spell "Stoneskin" has been addressed. - An issue where mannequin poses did not function as selected has been addressed. - A new command "/blockaid" has been added. "/blockaid" has the following effect: Magical assistance (such as "Cure" and "Protect"), trades, party invites etc. from non-party/alliance characters will be blocked. The "/blockaid" effect will be canceled if the player temporarily logs out to the PlayOnline Viewer, logs out, changes areas, or is KO'd. Command/Subcommands: /blockaid on Activate the blockaid effect. /blockaid off Cancel the blockaid effect. /blockaid Display current blockaid status. - Players will no longer receive "Trade" offers from characters on their blacklist. - Players will no longer be able to use spells or abilities to claim a monster as soon as it appears. If players attempt to use spells or abilities to claim a monster before a set amount of time has passed since it appeared, they will not be able to use those spells etc. again for a certain duration. - The incomplete synthesis recipe for the "A Moral Manifest?" quest has been corrected. - Several other minor issues have been addressed.

Author:	Runefury [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:24 pm ]
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this is funny. lol - The notorious monsters listed below will slowly grow in strength after a certain amount of time has passed since being claimed: King Arthro / Simurgh / Roc / Serket / Capricious Cassie /Lord of Onzozo / Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg Blockaid owns too. now other players can't spam cure you to steal your mob.

Author:	Iolanthe [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:30 pm ]
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OMG LOLOLOL...I can't wait :D

Author:	Kaylia [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:34 pm ]
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It took them 2 years to think that? I thought they just didnt cared.

Author:	Matti [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:35 pm ]
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Quote: - The number of "glass sheets" produced by synthesis has been changed. Fuck me. I just spent an ass load of gil to make one of these... Quote: - An issue where the birds in Bibiki Bay known as "tragopans" did not drop crystals has been addressed. LOL I was wondering what was up with the birds not dropping crystals...

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Author:	Runefury [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:42 pm ]
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I'm really happy to see this update. I think Ifrit is one of the few servers where a few NA HNM ls have decided not to bot. This update completely changes my entire out look on endgame activies. Anyway, f??k this game i'm goin back to bed... cya in 2hrs.

Author:	Kaylia [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:43 pm ]
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Blockaid seem pretty cool too. No more gilseller's cure+invincible

Author:	Sefier [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:43 pm ]
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omg...so ummm WE CAN SEE NMs pop yellow and we all get a fairer chance to claim?

Author:	Pirato [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:44 pm ]
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What does that mean? You have to engage and hit a mob with your weapons now to claim it? Don't see how it would mean the end of botting..

Author:	Pix [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:45 pm ]
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Yeah ppl cant induce Spike flail no more if you got Block aid on ;p

Author:	Xiona [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:49 pm ]
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you have to wait a few minutes after it rendors for it to be claimable. and they made it so if you say provoke it before its ready to be claimed, you will have a xx amount of time cooldown before you can try and use provoke. meaning bots will spam it at first then be useless because of cool down on ability.

Author:	meloffxi [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:49 pm ]
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Quote: - Players will no longer be able to use spells or abilities to claim a monster as soon as it appears. If players attempt to use spells or abilities to claim a monster before a set amount of time has passed since it appeared, they will not be able to use those spells etc. again for a certain duration. what exactly is that mean? or am I failing reading comprehension today o.o??? I read the JP version also... and it looks the same... nvm: read the post above

Author:	Mys [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:51 pm ]
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Quote: Players will no longer be able to use spells or abilities to claim a monster as soon as it appears. If players attempt to use spells or abilities to claim a monster before a set amount of time has passed since it appeared, they will not be able to use those spells etc. again for a certain duration. Edited because I misread this... but I'm still skeptical as to how much this will help things. I guess we will see in two hours or so. Quote: King Arthro / Simurgh / Roc / Serket / Capricious Cassie /Lord of Onzozo / Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg *This time period will vary for each notorious monster. lol I like this change. /blockaid also sounds nice.

Author:	Matti [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:51 pm ]
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meloffxi wrote: Quote: - Players will no longer be able to use spells or abilities to claim a monster as soon as it appears. If players attempt to use spells or abilities to claim a monster before a set amount of time has passed since it appeared, they will not be able to use those spells etc. again for a certain duration. what exactly is that mean? or am I failing reading comprehension today o.o??? I read the JP version also... and it looks the same... nvm: read the post above Saying that there will be a certain amount of time before you can claim a mob that just popped. And if you use a spell or ability when it first pops before the timer is up; you have to wait for the spell/ability to "cool down". Pretty hot imo.

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Author:	Pirato [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:54 pm ]
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Xiona wrote: you have to wait a few minutes after it rendors for it to be claimable. and they made it so if you say provoke it before its ready to be claimed, you will have a xx amount of time cooldown before you can try and use provoke. meaning bots will spam it at first then be useless because of cool down on ability. oh! That does sound like very good news!

Author:	Tilo [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:10 pm ]
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I actually said omfg irl when I read this update.

Author:	Sefier [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:14 pm ]
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ok so...how will we know if the mob is "ready" to be claimed? and can some1 explain the blockiad thing i just dont get it maybe cause im dumb irl :/

Author:	bigdawg [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:18 pm ]
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what i was wondering about is this /blockaid would that be to stop the sp + cure v to spike flail or steal hnm? or to stop cure bombing when trying to claim?

Author:	Kwechi [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:19 pm ]
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Quote: "/blockaid" has the following effect: Magical assistance (such as "Cure" and "Protect"), trades, party invites etc. from non-party/alliance characters will be blocked. so wait, we can only get pt invites from party/alliance characters? that doesnt make sense.

Author:	hccmike [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:20 pm ]
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think of /blockaid as /blacklist except it blocks the action of the person you /blockaid'ed hccmike> Dood stop curing me, I'm trying to solo this leaping lizzy reinheld casts cure V on hccmike hccmike> /blockaid reinheld reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V have no effect on hccmike reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V have no effect on hccmike reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V have no effect on hccmike

Author:	Kaylia [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:23 pm ]
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When you try to claim something too early, your action is probably going to get paralyzed and you will lost it for a few sec. It will be a lotery game of who get the first voke after the NM's cooldown end since there is probably no clue to figure how long it last with bot. It could be really good depending how long this "cooldown" is and if it can really give everyone an equal chance at NM. About /blockaid seifier. The command just prevent people from outside alliance. There is many situation where "healing" someone can harm him more than help him. ie: Casting poisona after someone drink a poison potion to prevent sleep, curing someone and using invincible to grab hate and run out of range (making everyone disengage make mob goes unclaimed) etc.

Author:	hccmike [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:24 pm ]
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If that cooldown period is randomly decided, this would be even better If the color stays yellow the whole time, thats probably better too.. since jp would prob see the color change first.. or PS players

Author:	Ketrebu [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:24 pm ]
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Put it this way... Behemoth pops. Player A immediately, by reflex hits Provoke, while behemoth sits in his "Unclaimable" state. Player A's Provoke is nullified, the monster is not claimed, and Player A is no longer able to use Provoke until X amount of time has passed. Behemoth, after a small period of time (10 seconds maybe?) will return to a claimable state (Yellow) and be open to all players to grab. Player B hits Provoke after it turns yellow, he recieves no penalty, and the monster is caimed for his alliance. Basically. You can no longer spam a monster to claim it when it pops. It's still "fastest finger first" but not until the monster is visible to all players in the area and returns to a "claimable" state. And if you "jump the gun" with trying to claim it, you will lose your chance to claim. Additionally, the /blockaid will prevent people outside alliance from "helping" you in any way. This means people outside your alliance will not be able to trade with you, cast cure's on you, or even poisona you. (I've heard of people using Poisona on people who drink Poison Potion for Cassie) All I have to say is.... It's about freaking time. But it's still awesome either way.

Author:	Jimbean [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:25 pm ]
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hccmike wrote: think of /blockaid as /blacklist except it blocks the action of the person you /blockaid'ed hccmike> Dood stop curing me, I'm trying to solo this leaping lizzy reinheld casts cure V on hccmike hccmike> /blockaid reinheld reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V have no effect on hccmike reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V have no effect on hccmike reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V have no effect on hccmike it would prolly be more like: hccmike> Dood stop curing me, I'm trying to solo this leaping lizzy reinheld casts cure V on hccmike hccmike> /blockaid reinheld reinheld casts cure V on hccmike cure V cannot be cast on hccmike like when you try to cast nuke on an NPC or an already claimed target

Author:	Jimbean [ Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:27 pm ]
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Ketrebu wrote: Put it this way... Behemoth pops. Player A immediately, by reflex hits Provoke, while behemoth sits in his "Unclaimable" state. Player A's Provoke is nullified, the monster is not claimed, and Player A is no longer able to use Provoke until X amount of time has passed. Behemoth, after a small period of time (10 seconds maybe?) will return to a claimable state (Yellow) and be open to all players to grab. Player B hits Provoke after it turns yellow, he recieves no penalty, and the monster is caimed for his alliance. Basically. You can no longer spam a monster to claim it when it pops. It's still "fastest finger first" but not until the monster is visible to all players in the area and returns to a "claimable" state. And if you "jump the gun" with trying to claim it, you will lose your chance to claim. Additionally, the /blockaid will prevent people outside alliance from "helping" you in any way. This means people outside your alliance will not be able to trade with you, cast cure's on you, or even poisona you. (I've heard of people using Poisona on people who drink Poison Potion for Cassie) All I have to say is.... It's about freaking time. But it's still awesome either way. that's fucking awesome