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Dumbasses I had Gamecube at launch... 3 years my ass. Wavebird is awesome and all, but really Ponuh posted a relatively boring screenshot of Jet Grind and a picture of a boss fight in Wind Waker for comparison lol.... Did you beat Jet Grind? There is alot more to the game than that kind of shit.. like in the larger downtown areas when you have tanks and helicopters after you. I can call you fanboys all I want. You obviously exhibit that behaviour.

I am not a fanboy of any particular brand really. I have all of the last generation of consoles (Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube). I think they all have their advantages, but really Dreamcast did not get its due. Dreamcast pioneered online gaming then MS hired Peter Moore and now uses his experience for Xboxlive. DC also had the first cell shaded game years before Nintendo did Wind Waker. People want to hump MS's leg for Halo2 being online FPS (DC had Quake3 way beforehand lol).

I play Gamecube while I play FFXI, solely due to the Wavebird being the greatest wireless controller of that generation. I do not have a Xbox360, not sure if I would get one seriously lol. I will wait to see how Mistwalker's games turn out and if they get the sequel to Ninja Gaiden. Other than that I think I will get Revolution due to it being cheaper haha. Might get PS3 if it has anything at launch that says to me "must buy".. so far I do not see anything yet. But yeah whose fanboy am I?



Lol they're not last gen yet, not all of the new ones are here. And that's if you can really call the 360 next gen. And what's to say the revolution is going to be cheaper?

Nevermind, it's going to be anyway lol

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Don't really think you're in a position to call anyone a fanboy after all what you've said.

I just felt like making this screenshot to show off.

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Doesn't do it much justice without the animations, but it gets the point across.

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Let's compare Dreamcast with GC. Let's compare a Sega small group design game with a million dollar project that was the only game Nintendo turned out worth a shit in that year.

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And you're right. It doesn't do much justice. Both are about the same animation quality.

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I played radio future on the dreamcast.


No, you didn't. Why? Because Jet Set Radio Future was Xbox. Jet *Grind* Radio was Dreamcast.

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Nintendo invented the wireless controller with the wavebird, other companies just followed shortly after the success. The DS's 2 screens and touch screen, and revolution controller is completely different from anything ever before, and they are taking a huge risk with this. This also affects basically every game that is gonna be released on the Revolution obviously.

Those are some of the main hardware examples. At the moment, all I can say about xbox is that they invented the perfect system for setting on top of a VCR? Dunno. Can't really think of much for Sony atm either. I must admit, the controller design from PS1 to PS2 was remarkable but it just doesn't compare with Nintendo's transition.


No, nintendo didn't invent the wireless controller, they just perfected it. And of course there are probably broken down wavebirds all over the microsoft labs. DS's two screens aren't completely different, and the revolution's controller isn't either. Go to an arcade; fishing games, sword games, hell, star wars games, all use the same thing. It's new for *consoles*.

All you can say about Xbox? Hmm. Perfected console online gaming. Perfected use of HD on games. And for sony? Hi, it's called Eye Toy, as well as Bemani external controllers.

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And don't forget, the majority of games on a system aren't made by Nintendo. it's obvious that football games are the same thing with new cover.


Name a game worth playing on GC not made by Nintendo. Make a list. Can you count them on one hand? If we cut REs out of the mix, nope.
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However, Nintendo does NOT allow their franchises to stagnate. Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, and Metroid Prime are wonderful examples of a severe break from past traditions, and those three games are considered among the greatest of all time. You guys chide Nintendo for this when game company after game company churns out freaking identical Tony Hawks, World War II sims, Need for Speeds and who knows how many others?


There have been a fair share of absolutely terrible mario games, as well as a tradition of the 2nd zelda game being released on a console a huge letdown. Nintendo likes to create a new awsome Zelda engine, then recycle it....but TP looks different in that regard.

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Nintendo likes to create a new awsome Zelda engine, then recycle it....but TP looks different in that regard.


Zelda 1 and 2 had completely different engine.
Only one Zelda on snes

Only true for N64, but majora mask was still interesting.

One Zelda for GC so far. New engine for the 2nd



Anyway, did you really compared the special effect they used for Jet set? Most of them are really bad. Mapping on the environnement is generally bland too. Character arent too bad on X-box version, but it's still hard to compare them with Zelda. There is time where it look like they just added a black border on polygon without adding any other cel shade effect.

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All you can say about Xbox? Hmm. Perfected console online gaming. Perfected use of HD on games.

too bad halo was the only game that was worth having those features for, even though you can get halo on pc also (blah blah cant wait to hear people (dinav and eternus) cry about slow down, which i didnt experience in my halo pc game)

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All you can say about Xbox? Hmm. Perfected console online gaming. Perfected use of HD on games.

too bad halo was the only game that was worth having those features for, even though you can get halo on pc also (blah blah cant wait to hear people (dinav and eternus) cry about slow down, which i didnt experience in my halo pc game)


lol, just have to turn mouse speed up ftw


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Name a game worth playing on GC not made by Nintendo. Make a list. Can you count them on one hand? If we cut REs out of the mix, nope.
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tales of symphonia
(I like tony hawk games so i am putting them on the list)
TH3-every other one
skies of arcadia
viewtiful joe 1-2
prince of persia 1-3
spiderman 2
the two towers
plenty of other 3rd parties that i have,
while you will undoubtedly say that some of these have been released for other consoles, and you will say that these arent worth playing i dont care i bought them for gamecube so i found something in them.

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Do second-party studios count? Metroid Prime was outsourced to Retro Studios. Battalion Wars was really good. How about Geist, Killer 7, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, F-Zero GX, or the Viewtiful Joes? Ikaruga, Soul Calibur 2? And all the ones previously mentioned?

You can't bash Gamecube for a lack of good games. A dearth of games in general, perhaps, but knocking the overall quality of the 1st party overalls with the high-profile third party games is ridiculous. Gamecube was a good damn system.

What Mario games have sucked? The sports and party franchises are enjoyable, and the only real Mario game to come out of GC was Sunshine, which despite the obvious stigma, was actually a very good game.

Edit: ah, VJ1 and 2 were already mentioned. Damn.


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eye toy wasn't anything very new for the PS2. They had somethin like a camera for gameboy color back in the day. They might have improved upon it, but what would you expect after so many years? Wait a sec, that's a point for nintendo I think.

And saying revolution's controller isn't 100% new because of certain arcade games that offered mediocre virtual reality doesn't say much. Virtual reality fishing and tennis arcade games doesn't really compare to something like the revolution's controller that is designed to offer virtual reality to any kind of genre, and not just fishing or tennis. Even if I don't know much about hardware, I have enough common sense to know Revolution's controller is 10x more technologically advanced than that crap.

and edit: if you've been reading IGN, they said Nintendo has 1 more secret about the controller, but I don't think they've revealed it yet.


Then you went ahead and said XBox perfected online gaming, last I checked, PCs offered online gaming.

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eye toy wasn't anything very new for the PS2. They had somethin like a camera for gameboy color back in the day.


as much as i'm not that big of a sony fan i'd actually have to give them props on the eye toy. it was surprisingly fun and although you looked kinda like an idiot while playing it, it was still enjoyable.

as for the gameboy camera (yes that was it's name) it really didn't do much of anything other than take pictures and edit the pictures. i believe it had some basic (extremely basic) games in which you could put your picture onto the game. but yea those games were retarded.


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All you can say about Xbox? Hmm. Perfected console online gaming. Perfected use of HD on games.

too bad halo was the only game that was worth having those features for, even though you can get halo on pc also (blah blah cant wait to hear people (dinav and eternus) cry about slow down, which i didnt experience in my halo pc game)


Because Halo 1 used online play.


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Name a game worth playing on GC not made by Nintendo. Make a list. Can you count them on one hand? If we cut REs out of the mix, nope.

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tales of symphonia
(I like tony hawk games so i am putting them on the list)
TH3-every other one
skies of arcadia
viewtiful joe 1-2
prince of persia 1-3
spiderman 2
the two towers
plenty of other 3rd parties that i have,
while you will undoubtedly say that some of these have been released for other consoles, and you will say that these arent worth playing i dont care i bought them for gamecube so i found something in them.


So like...4 games I can get on Nintendo only worth playing. Gotcha.

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eye toy wasn't anything very new for the PS2. They had somethin like a camera for gameboy color back in the day. They might have improved upon it, but what would you expect after so many years? Wait a sec, that's a point for nintendo I think.

And saying revolution's controller isn't 100% new because of certain arcade games that offered mediocre virtual reality doesn't say much. Virtual reality fishing and tennis arcade games doesn't really compare to something like the revolution's controller that is designed to offer virtual reality to any kind of genre, and not just fishing or tennis. Even if I don't know much about hardware, I have enough common sense to know Revolution's controller is 10x more technologically advanced than that crap.

and edit: if you've been reading IGN, they said Nintendo has 1 more secret about the controller, but I don't think they've revealed it yet.


Then you went ahead and said XBox perfected online gaming, last I checked, PCs offered online gaming.

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Eye Toy is not Gameboy Camera. Saying Gameboy Camera is anything revolutionary when regarding that it's a camera...a camera. Woohoo.

As well, you can't say the nintendo revolution won't offer the same cheesy virtual reality games. I trust they'll do better, but like with Donkey Konga, there's no real garuntee that they'll do it right either.

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Do second-party studios count? Metroid Prime was outsourced to Retro Studios. Battalion Wars was really good. How about Geist, Killer 7, Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, F-Zero GX, or the Viewtiful Joes? Ikaruga, Soul Calibur 2? And all the ones previously mentioned?

You can't bash Gamecube for a lack of good games. A dearth of games in general, perhaps, but knocking the overall quality of the 1st party overalls with the high-profile third party games is ridiculous. Gamecube was a good damn system.

What Mario games have sucked? The sports and party franchises are enjoyable, and the only real Mario game to come out of GC was Sunshine, which despite the obvious stigma, was actually a very good game.

Edit: ah, VJ1 and 2 were already mentioned. Damn.


Metroid is published by Nintendo and is still a mainstay Nintendo title. Citing developers don't count :(. As was Battalion Wars. Killer 7 was bad. Geist was playable, I'll admit, but hardly anything you "have to play omg". Same as Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2(though if I wanted to be a huge ass I could cite that both are available in arcades with a nice penis...I mean banana rod joystick :P). F Zero was Nintendo again. GG on Ikaruga...I forgot about it. And Hell SC2 is techinically unique on GC(disregarding the controller). I'll also admit I forgot Viewtiful Joes.

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RE4 wasn't that great, don't care.


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All you can say about Xbox? Hmm. Perfected console online gaming. Perfected use of HD on games.

too bad halo was the only game that was worth having those features for, even though you can get halo on pc also (blah blah cant wait to hear people (dinav and eternus) cry about slow down, which i didnt experience in my halo pc game)


Because Halo 1 used online play.


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halo 2 and halo 1, sorry couldnt tell the difference

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F-Zero (Amusement Vision), Metroid, and the Wars series are games that have appeared on Nintendo's past systems and were once developed by an internal team, but for all intents and purposes, they were made by a completely external source, and can be treated as non-first party efforts. This left EAD and other internal studios to focus on excellent first-party games like Eternal Darkness, Super Smash Bros., Wind Waker, Four Swords Adventure, Sunshine, Star Fox Ass oh just kidding that game sucked, and whatnot.

I freaking love Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, but I'm biased, since I wrote the world's leading FAQ on both of them. Yes, world's leading. Because the others aren't nearly as good. (grin)

Point is, I have just as many games on my Gamecube as I do for my PS2, and I really, really like them. So, whatever.

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was also cool as hell.


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Point is, I have just as many games on my Gamecube as I do for my PS2, and I really, really like them. So, whatever.

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was also cool as hell.

heh i have like 25-30 ps2 games and about 15-20 gc games, as much as i love Nintendo and GC, ps2 is still teh roxor

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F-Zero (Amusement Vision), Metroid, and the Wars series are games that have appeared on Nintendo's past systems and were once developed by an internal team, but for all intents and purposes, they were made by a completely external source, and can be treated as non-first party efforts. This left EAD and other internal studios to focus on excellent first-party games like Eternal Darkness, Super Smash Bros., Wind Waker, Four Swords Adventure, Sunshine, Star Fox Ass oh just kidding that game sucked, and whatnot.

I freaking love Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2, but I'm biased, since I wrote the world's leading FAQ on both of them. Yes, world's leading. Because the others aren't nearly as good. (grin)

Point is, I have just as many games on my Gamecube as I do for my PS2, and I really, really like them. So, whatever.

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat was also cool as hell.


Developed externally doesn't mean they weren't produced and guided by Nintendo. Especially with how long it took to produce those games and how many times they were cancelled and restarted. Nintendo had a huge hand in their development, and I can't blame them.

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