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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:12 pm 
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http://the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm wrote:
Capcom revealed new details on Devil May Cry 4 for PS3. The game will have a new protagonist named Nero:

* Nero will be the new protagonist
* Dante will be in the game as well, it is unclear whether Dante will be playable.
* The story of DMC4 will take place immediately after the first Devil May Cry.
* The game will run at 60 fps.
* There is a new move called Devil Bringer, which combines both sword and pistol attacks on one hand.
* Devil May Cry 4 will be playable at TGS 2006


New protagonist? Uh oh. Is this going to be another DMC2?


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WTF no Dante as the main protagonist? TGS2006 hasn't already happened (or did they mean 2007)? If they have it playable this year, then thats hot shit and different from all the other PS3 games thus far. It will probably be a good game though, doubt it will be nearly as good as Ninja Gaiden. Hell I doubt it will be as good as DMC1.

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I thought DMC2 was as good as DMC1, but then again, I couldnt finish DMC2. Not that it was hard, I was just bored.

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Is Nero going to be an anti-hero? Seems really odd to name your character Nero, haha.


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DMC2 was considered to be the worst of the DMC games, and alot of fans like to think that it's no longer in the continuity of the series' story.


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Reinheld wrote:
DMC2 was considered to be the worst of the DMC games, and alot of fans like to think that it's no longer in the continuity of the series' story.


It was fucking gay.

But i played the game beat it and even got the diesel outfits.

Yes dante wears Diesel.

i felt like such a homo unlocking it.

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Wow. lol I'm sorry. For everything.


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Pretty! I'm interested in playing this now


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Nero may be Vergil. There's some dispute at the moment since in the first DMC there was some translation errors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_%28DMC4%29 wrote:
There have been plenty of famous rumors going around of this character, the most famous being that Nero, could be Vergil, after their encounter with Nero/Nelo Angelo, the reason for this, is because of the uncanny likeness between the two in both facial, and body as well as the name "Nero" possibly being featured off of "Nero/Nelo Angelo".


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I like vergil better


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It's almost definately Vergil, in one way or another.

There was a Japanese interview a long while ago with one of the guys who produced DMC3, and he said there was an unexpected overwhelming response to Vergil's character, and as such they'd be considering including him in future games.

Also you can't really argue some of the facts here:

- Nelo Angelo was Vergil's "corrupt" form. He was DMC3's Vergil in DMC1, there's no argument here.

- Nelo Angelo was a mis-translation in the English version of the game. In the original Japanese version, his name was Nero Angelo (Black Angel).

- This new guy, according to a Japanese magazine, is called "Nero". That'd be the correct name and spelling for the Japanese people.

- The new guy looks like Dante, for crying out loud. Bear in mind back in DMC3, whenbever Vergil's hair fell down, he looked exactly like Dante, until he pushed it back up. And let's not forget the blue coat here.

This new game is set after DMC1, but before DMC2, so we can assume shortly after DMC1. My theory, as of yet, is that after being defeated in DMC1, Vergil is no longer under Mundus' control. He now has no recollection of his past (he didn't seem to know you in DMC1, he just recognised your Amulet) so hence Dante is now just a "mysterious figure."


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Japanese DMC4 site openned last night. Right on schedule. (It's been counting down from 7 days since last week)

http://www.capcom.co.jp/devil4/

I can't read a lick of it, but the way the site is laid out, to me, looks more like Dante is still in as a main/playable character, along side this "new" guy.

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vergil is not nero
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credits go to Dahbomb for posting the compiled info
http://boards.ign.com/devil_may_cry/b52 ... 224/p1/?91
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This is a serious thread, as the title implies. It's a rationalizing thread, or a thread to calmly post your thoughts about DMC4 here. What I DO NOT want here are fanboy bickerings about DMC4 not meeting some of your supposed expectations or your character is not done justice... blah blah blah.

I think it's pretty obvious that there are many ambiguities in the current DMC4 news. While the news about the technology, game play design and standard DMC stuff is great, it's the characters/story that has me perplexed.


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Let's start this thread by asking some simple questions:

Who is Nero?
When the scans first came out, the fans quickly jumped the gun that Nero is a Japanese mistranslation of "Nelo" which then was correlated to Nelo Angelo and then straight to Vergil. Of course many thought this would happen in DMC4 PRIOR to the new information and with Vergil's popularity, who could've thought any less. The twin appearance to Dante was another dead give away.

In light of new information, it seems to be apparent that Nero is not Vergil but in fact a brand new character to the DMC series. Not only is he a main character in the series but he is also very much playable. He has his own story and I will copy/paste the new stuff here:

Duckroll at GAF gets credited for translating and providing us information on the text in the scans.

- Nero is a knight within the Order of the Demon Blade, a religious order which protects the secrets and powers of demons from the world.

- There's no indication that he is the Vergil that we know from DMC3 and DMC1.

- The game is set in a huge city known as Fortuna.

- The people here believe that Sparda is a god, and the Order that Nero works for wants to undo Sparda's seal.

- It is for this purpose that Nero ends up in this city, but here his entire unit is slaughtered by the demon hunter Dante.

The more I read into it, the more I am convinced that this Nero character is indeed a brand new character. Why does he look SO MUCH like Dante? I have no ****ing idea to be honest, and I can't explain the silver hair either. All I know is that Capcom is not trying to make this character out to be Vergil at all and since he's playable they only thought it was wise to go with the red get up + silver hair.

So where does Dante come into play? My guess is that the game will play out in dual format, you play as both character eventually. The scans made this fairly clear... Another question is that if Nero is not Vergil, then what happens of him? I think Vergil is being kept in the dark for his more "epic" debut (at least that's what I think).


Some things to note:

- New character is significantly younger than Dante.

- A new character was heavily implied by Capcom in their early interviews.

- The Nelo/Nero "typo" was never fixed by Capcom, and even in Japan for DMC3SE Nelo Angelo was advertised with an "L". This is not a recurrence here, but I am guessing it's part of some demonic theme in DMC that DMC4 will get more into.

Other relevant information for DMC4 (copy/pasted) + My Opinions:


Time and Setting


- Devil May Cry 4 *officially* takes place AFTER Devil May Cry (original) and BEFORE Devil May Cry 2. The "canoness" of DMC2 is still unconfirmed but Dahbomb says its not canon...


- The story seems to indicate that Nero (more on his later) will be the main plot device of DMC4. It's unconfirmed as to what Dante's status is in DMC4 but at this point it's pretty obvious that he will not be more than 60% of a factor in the game. The game will most likely be equally shared between the 2 characters.


Characters Information


- BOTH Dante and Nero are PLAYABLE in DMC3 but most likely you will only play as Nero at TGS since he is more "fresh" than Dante. Nero has an eerie resemblance to Dante, he has a red vest, a broad sword that has a big resemblance to the broard sword used by Nelo Angelo (it's called the Red Queen). Nero might even use a Revolver! Nero does not seem to have aged much but Dante on the other hand seems a bit older than his DMC1 counterpart. Dante now wields Rebellion ala DMC2/DMC3, and retains his Ebony and Ivory.


- Nero's looks, as previously stated, are A LOT like Dante, in fact when the scans came out he could not be differentiated from Dante. He has showered down hair and a red vest, and even has a pose of him with a Revolver. His two differences from Dante are his sword (the Red Queen) and his right arm which is possessed as hinted by the teaser trailer. Nero is a knight within the Order of the Demon Blade, a religious order which protects the secrets and powers of demons from the world.

- The game is set in a huge city known as Fortuna. The people here believe that Sparda is a god, and the Order that Nero works for wants to undo Sparda's seal. It is for this purpose that Nero ends up in this city, but here his entire unit is slaughtered by the demon hunter Dante.


Next-Gen Stuff


- Devil May Cry 4 is CONFIRMED to run at 60 Frames Per Second.
It's probably one of the 3 next-gen games to have accomplish this feat. Not an easy task on next-gen hardware, as I am told. No confirmation yet on 1080P resolution, I personally doubt it going higher than 720P to sustain that level of FPS.


- Yuji Shimomura is CONFIRMED to come back and do the cutscenes for DMC4 ala DMC3. Expect intense, over the top action scenes that made DMC3 the king of action.



DMC4 Combat Engine

- The combat system in DMC4 will be closest to DMC3 with some tweaks and fixes. Fan comments and suggestions are taken into consideration for the formation of the DMC4 combat engine.

- There are posts floating around about a new "Defiance" style for Nero. I cannot deny nor can I confirm this information.

- Another new game play addition is the addition of "Acceleration" on the sword, most importantly on the "Red Queen" sword of Nero's. In addition, along with the staple Devil Trigger of the series DMC4 will bring in a feature called "Devil Bringer". More news on both of these will be revealed at TGS.

- The right arm of Nero actually has game play significance and is able to move around enemies through its telepathic abilities. The director stated that this new ability will almost negate "combo breaks" and will open up a whole new wave of combos in DMC4. The physics required to use this new ability in DMC4 was NOT possible on the PS2, as stated by the director.


Edit by Reinheld: Took out the giant scans. Sorry. Hah.

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Nice. Can only pray for a Wii60 release sometime in the next five years or massive price drops on PS3.


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Neat looking boss, looks like the Balrog from LotR.


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Vergil wrote the Aenied, Nero burned Rome and Dante wrote the Divine Comedy GET YOUR OWN NAMES GARGLE


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Next new DMC character's gonna be named Homer.


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Eventually there will be a wheelchair-ridden character named MarX (the capital X is for x-treme effect) that has psychic mind powers


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lol Awesome.


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Ponuh wrote:
Eventually there will be a wheelchair-ridden character named MarX (the capital X is for x-treme effect) that has psychic mind powers



that would be so funny lol.

you still gotta make him look exactly like dante so that nobodies confused.

Make him the wear the same basic looking outfit, and outfit him with cripple versions of dantes weapons, then claim its all brand new.

In addition, you gotta give him awesome cripple cutscenes.

he's in a dance club in his wheel chair. all of a sudden all the girls turn into demons, So he grabs ebony and elephant tusk and manages to thrust his wheel chair towards one of the polls latches on and shoots up the house.

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thats soo wrong in sooo many levels lol

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hahahaha, ive been over looking this thread, but now that ive read the new posts, its interesting again, and to me that boss and Balrog from LotR look like ifrtit, the ifrit from like FFVIII and lower,


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