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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:24 pm 
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As I'm sure you've heard--

http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/gamespot-editor-fired-over-kane--lynch-review-328244.php

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We've heard an unsettling rumor today from an anonymous tipster that longtime game reviewer Jeff Gerstmann from Gamespot has been let go. That wouldn't necessarily be newsworthy, but the conditions under which he was allegedly dismissed were. According to the source, Gerstmann was fired "on the spot" due to advertiser pressure for his review of Eidos' Kane & Lynch: Dead Men. A visit to Gamespot shows that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game has taken over the site very prominently, with backgrounds and multiple banner ads all pitching Kane & Lynch. Allegedly, publisher Eidos "took issue with the review and threatened to pull its ad campaign."

Jeff's review was certainly less than glowing. He assigned the game a 6.0, otherwise known as "Fair" on the Gamespot scale. The game is currently enjoying a Metacritic score in the 65 to 69 range, which the site describes as "mixed or average reviews." According to our tipster, it wasn't necessarily the score that was reason for Gerstmann's rumored axing, but the "tone" of the review.


I find this more amusing than anything else. He still hasn't disclosed why he was fired but judging by the fact that the reviews were taken down, it seems pretty obvious. He seemed like a decent critic, actually, despite his shit review of the last Zelda.

The review in question:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FuJ81sDR2o[/youtube]


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:43 pm 
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Yeah I read about this yesterday. This is why I never base my opinion of a game on someone elses review. So many sites\reviewers are easily bought out, its a shame. Its why I like getting impressions from different forums.


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Forums ftw. I like reading random people's opinions, not reviewers.

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I can see how they decided to let him go for his "tone" in the review because after seeing that I'm not even inclined to play the game (I'm not really inclined to really play this game anyway so it doesn't matter.)

However, his grounds for firing is a bit unsettling despite the fact that ad money may be responsible. He's a critic and he should be allowed to say or voice what he really wants as a critic. The flipside to this is he is also employed by Gamespot. As such Gamespot can edit or force him to change his use of "language" or "tone" of a review but not his overall reviewer score or basic opinion.

Unfortunately, Gamespot may be in bigger shit because of this because I'm not sure how much of this was his fault as a critic for saying what he wanted to say and Gamespot for not overseeing or making him change his words a bit in his review. Most online sites or magazines have editors or people to oversee a particular write-up or review to decide what goes in or out. Gamespot allowed this review to be posted so they are just as much at fault for this as Jeff because it should have been their responsibility to oversee what he said. They could have asked him to change his "tone." Only when Eidos threatened to pull ad money was there an issue.


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btw can someone sum up the premise of this game for me?

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Mareso wrote:
btw can someone sum up the premise of this game for me?


Watch the review you idiot.

Anyways, Jeff Gerstmann is not just a reviewer. He's the senior most staff member and has been with gamespot before it was called gamespot in 1996.


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rated it 1 ;p

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:03 am 
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This is an email that site got from an insider in Gamespot.

http://valleywag.com/tech/jeff-gerstman ... 328775.php

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We're very clear in our review policies that all reviews are vetted by the entire team before they go live - everything that goes up is the product of an entire team's output. Our freelancers are especially guilty of making snide comments, but those are always yanked before the review goes live, because everyone in the office reads these reviews and makes sure they're up to our standards before they get put up.

If there was a problem with his reviews, then it would've been a problem with the entire team. Firing him without telling anyone implies that anyone else on this team can be fired at the drop of a hat as well, because none of us are writing any differently or meaner or less professionally than we were two years ago before the management changed. I'm sure management wants to spin this as the G-Man being unprofessional to take away from the egg on their face that results after a ten-year employee gets locked out of his office and told to leave the premises and then no one communicates anything to us about it until the next day.

This management team has shown what they're willing to do. Jeff had ten years in and was fucking locked out of his office and told to leave the building.

What you might not be aware of is that GS is well known for appealing mostly to hardcore gamers. The mucky-mucks have been doing a lot of "brand research" over the last year or so and indicating that they want to reach out to more casual gamers. Our last executive editor, Greg Kasavin, left to go to EA, and he was replaced by a suit, Josh Larson, who had no editorial experience and was only involved on the business side of things. Over the last year there has been an increasing amount of pressure to allow the advertising teams to have more of a say in the editorial process; we've started having to give our sales team heads-ups when a game is getting a low score, for instance, so that they can let the advertisers know that before a review goes up. Other publishers have started giving us notes involving when our reviews can go up; if a game's getting a 9 or above, it can go up early; if not, it'll have to wait until after the game is on the shelves.

I was in the meeting where Josh Larson was trying to explain this firing and the guy had absolutely no response to any of the criticisms we were sending his way. He kept dodging the question, saying that there were "multiple instances of tone" in the reviews that he hadn't been happy about, but that wasn't Jeff's problem since we all vet every review. He also implied that "AAA" titles deserved more attention when they were being reviewed, which sounded to all of us that he was implying that they should get higher scores, especially since those titles are usually more highly advertised on our site.

I know that it's all about the money, and hey, I like money. I like advertising because it pays my salary. Unfortunately after Kasavin left the church-and-state separation between the sales teams and the editorial team has cracked, and with Jeff's firing I think it's clear that the management now has no interest at all in integrity and are instead looking for an editorial team that will be nicer to the advertisors.

When companies make games as downright contemptible as Kane and Lynch, they deserve to be called on it. I guess you'll have to go to Onion or a smaller site for objective reviews now, because everyone at GS now thinks that if they give a low score to a high-profile game, they'll be shitcanned. Everyone's fucking scared and we're all hoping to get Josh Larson removed from his position because no one trusts him anymore. If that doesn't happen then look for every game to be Game of the Year material at GameSpot.



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