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wow is this the same murph i considered one of the nicest people on ifrit? you think you know ckd? you don't know us. you claim we don't take risks? how about on wednesday when we claimed fafnir with just PLD PLD MNK THF WHM WHM, relying on mirby and i to use elemental seal + Sleep? you think we throw bodies at NMs? we beat kirin in 40 minutes with 20 people. how well do you know us? do you think we arent devoted? how about spending 3 hours a day for a month at aspidochelone camp so kayne can get the first NA black belt, only to watch KFC clusterfuck the spawn point before it pops everyday? you think we have a bad leader? yarr is someone who has successfully kept a powerful linkshell together through trust, honesty, and dedication. why are you even here posting? if you don't have anything nice to say, at least make sure it makes sense and is true.

you, however, represent a linkshell that was founded one day out of betrayal, a linkshell that siphons members out of other linkshells and brainwashes them to think bad of others. a pyramid shaped linkshell that pampers aiame and her closest friends. if personal gain is your main concern, yea sure you can choose the quick path where a few items are defaulted to you, or you could choose the longer path with much richer results: confidence in the LS where you dont have to bash others to feel proud, knowing you earned what you receive, knowing you've beaten every king and HQ king and god and kirin, trusting the people in your linkshell (wtf you have KFC members in your ls? they are loot vultures). these are things ckd offers, though we would never want you back.

i however dont think you are the real murph, i knew him and he wasnt arrogant. but once anyone gets sucked into aiame's {tractor}, they become an aiame-voiced puppet.

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Once again none of you are listening. You took cracks at us losing to Fafnir, ya we lost, ya it was a poor excuse of an attempt, ya we aren't as experianced. I was stating the fact that we do things we lesser people because that's how WE like to do it. It's exciting, I never took a crack at skill...I said you try it meaning you would probably wipe too. It doesn't mean we're better, it means that's how we accomplish things. Trust me if Monarchy wanted to recruit more, we would.

Shil I would never take a crack at you. You are one of the people I respect most, if you took offense to that i'm sorry it wasn't my intention. Hcc, i'm sorry you think it's personal. But between me and Yarr it is. He knows why, No I never chose one LS over the other until I was asked to choose. I left the one that asked me to make such a pathetic decison.

I did god runs on my own time, no disrespect to your "rules" but it neither took anything away nor added to anything with CKD. Yarr didn't like me hanging with monarchy period, why dont' you just admit it. It all roots back to the damn staff which I have nothing to do with, stop asking other people to fight your battles. This was my mere defense of my LS that I love, I helped put together because I got dropped from my friends for wanting to hangout with my friends.

I've been around most of you from the beginning, we all helped eachother accomplish many things in this game, before CKD and while I was in it. When I wouldn't stab my friends in the back for your item I had nothing to do with, you blackballed me from CKD plain and simple.

It is in my nature to always defend my friends, those who do things for me without asking for anything in return. Those who are always there for me, those who will stop at nothing to please their friends. That is Monarchy, and I will always be there for them.

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Unick.. it ain't bashing.

Its we dont' care. But rubbing it to our face on our forum is just asking for it. Don't you agree? Like that time someone stole Charboylis from us nad post a SS of it. and yarr banned them from dynamis. Thats asking for it.

If there were no rubbing, there wouldn't have been trashin.

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Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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wow is this the same murph i considered one of the nicest people on ifrit? you think you know ckd? you don't know us. you claim we don't take risks? how about on wednesday when we claimed fafnir with just PLD PLD MNK THF WHM WHM, relying on mirby and i to use elemental seal + Sleep? you think we throw bodies at NMs? we beat kirin in 40 minutes with 20 people. how well do you know us? do you think we arent devoted? how about spending 3 hours a day for a month at aspidochelone camp so kayne can get the first NA black belt, only to watch KFC clusterfuck the spawn point before it pops everyday? you think we have a bad leader? yarr is someone who has successfully kept a powerful linkshell together through trust, honesty, and dedication. why are you even here posting? if you don't have anything nice to say, at least make sure it makes sense and is true.

you, however, represent a linkshell that was founded one day out of betrayal, a linkshell that siphons members out of other linkshells and brainwashes them to think bad of others. a pyramid shaped linkshell that pampers aiame and her closest friends. if personal gain is your main concern, yea sure you can choose the quick path where a few items are defaulted to you, or you could choose the longer path with much richer results: confidence in the LS where you dont have to bash others to feel proud, knowing you earned what you receive, knowing you've beaten every king and HQ king and god and kirin, trusting the people in your linkshell (wtf you have KFC members in your ls? they are loot vultures). these are things ckd offers, though we would never want you back.

i however dont think you are the real murph, i knew him and he wasnt arrogant. but once anyone gets sucked into aiame's {tractor}, they become an aiame-voiced puppet.



There are many things I could point out in this post Whisp, I too am surprised by your remanks. Obviously you weren't reading. One, I helped create a GOD LS after Yarr asked me to leave. That's all we were, mostly to stay out of everyones hair and do our own thing. We spent many hours dying and trying over and over again to get our strategy down. Monarchy has been doing this for nearly 6 months. I dont' see any quick path. You guys keep bring up this "defaulted" perspective. Nobody in our LS brings up any problem with what we do, everyone gets what they need whether it be sooner or later. That is our first goal, and it's nobodies business but our own. If someone doesn't like it, they can leave. So far I haven't seen anyone do that...odd.

I am not arrogant, I am defensive. Once again I raise the point that I was coming to my LS's defense, not dogging anyone elses. Mearly stating facts, if you assume something I say is a certain way, that's all on you Whisp.

As far as my remark about taking risks, you're right. I am wrong. CKD has taken plenty of risks and I take that back. My point was that that's all Monarchy does just because we like it that way. I was wrong for saying CKD never does, you have your own way of doing things and I do apologize, that was a lack of thought on my part.

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Ya...who are you referring to in this part though? It's not CKD, atleast if you agree with statement where an LS is associated through a single person/persons remarks/actions.

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Yarr didn't like me hanging with monarchy period, why dont' you just admit it. It all roots back to the damn staff which I have nothing to do with

Any NM LS has a rule that you aren't supposed to go hunt NM with competing LS. Don't put blame on Yarr.

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When I wouldn't stab my friends in the back for your item I had nothing to do with, you blackballed me from CKD plain and simple.

You are trying to make CKD look bad when it was you who broke ranks and secretly hunted NM with competing linkshells. That's called back stabbing.

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Wrong Whisp, it wasn't a secret. I liked camping Gods, not HNM's. There was no backstabbing. I camped Gods, my own time, LS wasn't around or doing anything. I was bored, I wanted to better myself. Which is what we all want to do. Did it keep CKD from doing anything? No Did it make CKD look bad? No. Could it have possibly benefitted CKD from me gaining more experiance with God fights? Yes...wow I don't see the problem. Weak attempt guys. Keep making excuses for the fact, and avoiding the point. I once again point out I was there with CKD while I camped Gods at night for 100% of everything CKD did...which is more than most of the members at that time can say. I was a dedicated player...I got the boot for not being a dick to people that helped me. Plain and simple, not if and or buts...that's how it went down. You cannot argue with that. You can twist it, turn it, make it into something it wasn't. The honest truth is that is how it went down.

Yarr- Murph get the staff back from B.

Murph- I had nothing to do with that Yarr, it's not my place to even bring it up.

Yarr- Then you have to leave CKD.


Just...like...that. Now dont' bring up something else...dont' change the subject...tell me what I just said it wrong. Tell me it's wrong.

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Do you honestly believe that your LS leader, Aiame or whatever it is, would be OK if you went and did God's or HNMs with CKD?

Somehow, I severely doubt it, or at least not without ulterior motives.

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doing gods with another linkshell is grounds for removal. period.

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One more thing before I go to bed...

Yeah, he has his faults, but I'll defend Yarr to the death. Anyone who calls Yarr a loot whore, unskilled, or otherwise is a nearsighted, misinformed asshole. He openly admits he's not the best WHM in our LS but he is responsible for 95% of the accomplishments that this LS has achieved. I've seen people call him a greedy loot whore as well and that is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. He endlessly helps everyone in this LS get the items and equipment they want and I have personally never seen him put his own wants or needs above that of the rest of the LS, ever. We have like 5 Noble's Tunics in CKD and Yarr has not lotted on a single one of them. He has, on 5 occasions, put others before himself on a 10+ million gil item.

Not to mention the fact that he rounds down the total gil due from each member for dynamis raids when he should charge extra because he's the one that puts in the time and effort to schedule these things. Rounding down 400 or 500 gil per person may not sound like a big deal but multiply that amount by 64 and multiply it by how many raids we've done and we're looking at a huge chunk of money...

I'll defend Yarr no matter what because I know what kinda guy he really is. Anyone that would put up with as much crap as he does and still puts himself second to his friends it a great guy in my book. Yarr = :love:

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lol murph the staff had nothing to do with you leaving ckd.

I never even asked you that. Why dont you back your remarks up with some proof? I mean youre here getting put down by people who use to respect you. I mean cmon, do you seriously think everyone is wrong here but you? or that everyone but you needs to learn how to read?

Get your head on right.

I told you that we dont camp HNMs or Gods with other linkshells. I told you that if you wanted to camp with another linkshell you couldnt be part of CKD. You said fine and chose to leave CKD and join aiame. You left a linkshell with people who you started this game with to go get better god armor.

Grats on the new gear, i hope you enjoy it.

Now, you try and put any words into my mouth again and Ill really get angry.

I didnt even bug Triddy to get the staff back and hes his IRL brother. So why would I kick you from linkshell and not triddy?

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I love my shilly

and yeah ive lost like easily like 1+ mil because of lowering the price of dynamis lol


But like i said, I have everything I need, theres stuff I could buy but I dont really care enough haha.

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ok ill be honest, i read about 5% of everything posted here cuz frankly i dont really give a fuck. all i can say is murph shouldnt really be involved in arguing, he was in ckd only a few days, decided he wanted to go to monarchy, end of story. dragonb left without a word to anyone in ckd to join monarchy, keep in mind he was one of the original members of ckd but whatever cant stop him from leaving, now b's a nice guy and all but when he was asked for a ckd ls item to be returned he just ignored it, nice guy or not its pretty fucking lame. as far as aiame goes, shes a just a whiny chick, i never really liked her, she would show up to amemet camps to camp against other ckd already there and say hey its a open camp im just tryin to do me, then when she wipes to amemet and the other ckd there kill it she goes on crying about how its unfair and blah blah, this is just the types of things she would do shes a crybaby and honestly i was glad to see her go. only other person really involved with both ls would be crimsonsan, he wanted to camp stuff with 2 ls, ckd obviously isnt cool with that, he was kicked as he said he would not stop camping with monarchy. crims a nice guy, hes gotten EX ckd loot but no ls items i have no problem with him.

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Say I join a LS. One of their rule was not to camp hnm/god with another LS. Some friends from another LS asks me to go camp sky hnm with them, or pop item. I tell them no thanks, but if there are some other cool fun stuff they want to do I can always go with them. I mean, as much as they are my friends, I also consider the people in my LS my friends also. Breaking that rule would make me feel bad, not to mention the fact that, people in my main LS would be like, thats messed up. And, not to mention the fact that I would've broke my LS rule.

You knew of this rule, yet it was just fine and dandy for you to have 2 LS that you can camp for things huh. But, I don't think it was cool for either one of your LS, no matter how you looked at it. Like what Ravern just posted.

And sadly, you and crim were given a choice. Either stay with CKD and not camp with other LSs, or go on your own way. You guys picked to leave.

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When did this rule come about?

This rule was brought up long long time ago, after me and skye camped with Ganamena on Fafnir, when CKD wasn't too established yet. CKD LS rules were still being made slowly. Right after that we made this rule, and it never happen again. (At this point neither you or crim were in the LS yet, I happen to got Crimmy into CKD shortly after that cus I really liked him from Hokuten back then)

Murph you joined CKD, so did Crim. Camping with another LS, you two did just that, broke the rule, and then jumped the boat shortly afterward. Yarr even was nice enough to let you and Crim choose. I bet if it was Pirotes he'd kick you right away. If you don't want to hear about rules, put it this way, you 2 basically totally ignored what your friends in CKD have done for you.

No one is twisting this. no one is not listening to what you have to say, I'm reading every single word you are typing.

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Now I want to explain why doing things in 2 LS is kinda slapping your own LS mates in the face, both of your LS.

Look at it this way, Monarchy and CKD both camp god items. if one LS already took one of the pop item, the other LS have to either go for something else, or wait for that specific nm again for 4-6 hours, to get that pop item. If we had continue to do this, I don't know, our leader would need to be choked.

If this was like today with Nidhogg when the hnm is already poped, and we asked for help from another LS (Corwin, Msk, and Haldear) then that would've been a totally different story.

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I don't know about this quote from you murph..
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Before you left our ls, Monarchy was already created. So that means you went off to make another hnm LS when you just joined one? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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We have like 5 Noble's Tunics in CKD and Yarr has not lotted on a single one of them. He has, on 5 occasions, put others before himself on a 10+ million gil item


Anyone who calls Yarr a loot whore is fuckin retarded. He puts his LS be4 himself all the time. One thing that I noted when I see CKD members is all the WHM's that have a Noble's Tunic. And not one of them belongs to Yarr. When I was in HNMLSs, we would get big money drops and the LS leader would want the 1st big item (like Serket's V. Claw or Roc's Healing Staff) defaulted to him/herself. Yarr isn't like that, he puts all his members ahead of himself, and that one thing admire about him. He is the furthest from being selfish. Now I am questioning your credibility Murph because of all the blame you try to throw on Yarr. It is looking like bullshit to me, all that shit you say about Yarr doesnt even fit his character, in-game and irl. Yarr is one the, if not THE most, powerful NA ppl on Ifrit. He could have a lot of the best shit and could be a rich motherfucker if he wanted 2 but decides to put his LS members ahead of him. Fuck the bullshit, I didnt want to chose sides, but now it is clear who the backstabber is...

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yea but icy..

The whole world try to offer yout he difference

And the whole world practically begged you to stay.

But after you joined Monarchy we just kinda gave up =p

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