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halo 1 wasn't mediocre.


for a FPS yes it was. Im talking of Halo 1 on Xbox. The version they put out for PC with added features was pretty good and I liked it.

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pffft. What made Halo 1 good? Want a good FPS you look at Perfect Dark and dont need to look further^^

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Ah, right on cue, there's Dinav being a belligerent warmonger who posts simply out of spite.

We're exciting over the new gameplay possibilities this new controller can bring, not the actual software itself. Since, you know, there isn't any yet. The 360 and PS3 will bring masterpieces, no doubt, but I can't see anything truly innovative being released on those systems. Seriously, do you derive pleasure just from pissing people off?

Yeah, Virtual Boy sucked. We all make mistakes, Nintendo included. Big deal.

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something about your post made you contradict yourself i think. i could be wrong i was staring at lanis signature...


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Arlania wrote:
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"OMG IT'S SO AWSOME SCREW EVERYONE ELSE'S SHITTY SYSTEM


I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE OR ANYTHING BEFORE I DECIDE! OBVIOUSLY A CONTROLLER THAT'S UNTESTED BY THE PUBLIC MUST BE BETTER THAN TRIED AND TESTED ESTABLISHED ONES!"

Ponuh stfu. You forget that these people made Virtual Boy. Wait for the software.



Yeah cause we ALLLL know nintendo lacks in the software area. :roll:

Only system I see sucking when it comes to software is Xbox. I mean come on, the fucking system cant come up with decent games so they pump out EA crap 24/7 and talk of how games are exclusive on Xbox when those same games are coming out for PC,PS2 and Gamecube. Furthermore the only way Xbox gets anything good is by buying out the competition. Yeah that's a sign of innovation. "Hey holy crap we cant come up with anything good so lets just take the other publisher's hits and give them a wad of cash to come with us." I hear RE5 will be on 360. I guess that's the end of the line for RE series.


Cause Psychonauts was total garbage :roll: . It beat the living shit out of anything Nintendo put out last year, and that's sad. Xbox still puts out the highest quantity of quality games every year. I'd rather have 10 awsome games than 3. And no I'm not going to split hairs over Zelda vs XXXX because it's irrelivant based on system choice. You take the system with a strong library all year round, not a strong game once a year. You take the system with the strong game once a year second, to suppliment gaming(I've always said that having a GC+XB/PS2 was the best combo. Having the GC alone is worthless for value, but it's good games are not worth missing).

And no, Nintendo doesn't suck with Software. They DO suck with special-controller-based software. Donkey Konga? WTF. It took them over half a year to make a game worth playing on DS...

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pffft. What made Halo 1 good? Want a good FPS you look at Perfect Dark and dont need to look further^^


Seemless vehicle to infantry multiplayer combat.

Give me a game that compares, and still requires a quantity of player skill. Specifically at it's release date.

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Ah, right on cue, there's Dinav being a belligerent warmonger who posts simply out of spite.

We're exciting over the new gameplay possibilities this new controller can bring, not the actual software itself. Since, you know, there isn't any yet. The 360 and PS3 will bring masterpieces, no doubt, but I can't see anything truly innovative being released on those systems. Seriously, do you derive pleasure just from pissing people off?

Yeah, Virtual Boy sucked. We all make mistakes, Nintendo included. Big deal.

Revolution fo' LIFE.


Spite of what? I don't hate the revolution. I hope they make some good games worthy of a system buy. But I'm sure as fuck not buying a system because it comes with a remote....playing games with one hand isn't new(DOAXBV :lol: ), so unless they can back it up with killer games, it's nothing.

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"OMG IT'S SO AWSOME SCREW EVERYONE ELSE'S SHITTY SYSTEM


I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SOFTWARE OR ANYTHING BEFORE I DECIDE! OBVIOUSLY A CONTROLLER THAT'S UNTESTED BY THE PUBLIC MUST BE BETTER THAN TRIED AND TESTED ESTABLISHED ONES!"

Ponuh stfu. You forget that these people made Virtual Boy. Wait for the software.



Yeah cause we ALLLL know nintendo lacks in the software area. :roll:

Only system I see sucking when it comes to software is Xbox. I mean come on, the fucking system cant come up with decent games so they pump out EA crap 24/7 and talk of how games are exclusive on Xbox when those same games are coming out for PC,PS2 and Gamecube. Furthermore the only way Xbox gets anything good is by buying out the competition. Yeah that's a sign of innovation. "Hey holy crap we cant come up with anything good so lets just take the other publisher's hits and give them a wad of cash to come with us." I hear RE5 will be on 360. I guess that's the end of the line for RE series.


Cause Psychonauts was total garbage :roll: . It beat the living shit out of anything Nintendo put out last year, and that's sad. Xbox still puts out the highest quantity of quality games every year. I'd rather have 10 awsome games than 3. And no I'm not going to split hairs over Zelda vs XXXX because it's irrelivant based on system choice. You take the system with a strong library all year round, not a strong game once a year. You take the system with the strong game once a year second, to suppliment gaming(I've always said that having a GC+XB/PS2 was the best combo. Having the GC alone is worthless for value, but it's good games are not worth missing).

And no, Nintendo doesn't suck with Software. They DO suck with special-controller-based software. Donkey Konga? WTF. It took them over half a year to make a game worth playing on DS...



OK 1st of all Psychonauts was released on PC also so -1 to zomg Xbox game. Xbox puts out the highest quantity of quality? wtf is that coming from? EA isnt quality and that's all that comes out of fucking Xbox. 2nd of all are you saying Donkey Konga is a bad game? if you are then sorry but your a fucking moron. That game is loads of fun. Have you played it? I tested it out in a EB once and immediatly me and my friends bought the game and bongos and played the game non stop and still do. As far as the DS the DS in and of itself is innovative as a handheld and id like to see MS come up with a good handheld. MS loses money on their system and that's a fact. Why? cause their games are shit and they can only market it as a frat boy system.

As for a game that compares to Halo take any FPS on market right now on PC and youll have a better game. Also id have to say Timesplitters was a more enjoyable game then Halo. cause it was challenging beyond anything in Halo and it was............fun :P

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Xbox was a very nice system that had little to no support from Japanese gamemakers. I think it put up a good effort in trying to bring quality titles to the console to create a market for the Microsoft brand of console games, but ultimately failed. If it had more support from 3rd party companies, it really could have done amazing. It's the same exact story for the Gamecube. It has a couple of stellar titles and some amazing hardware/software and the best wireless controller I've ever played with.

Playstation 2 just had the support of more companies. It's the crappiest system on the market quality wise, but has the largest selection of good to amazing games to date. Alot of people just felt that XBox was a "PC Console" with too many PC-like games for it, and alot of people thought Gamecube was for kids. Granted there are good points for both, but we all know that it's not 100% true. Game makers go where the audience is. That's all there is to it really.

The next console wars are going to have alot more titles that are shared among them (minus Revolution) and it's really going to come back to the amount of great exclusive titles that each company can get ahold of. Japanese gamers in various reports say that they are most looking forward to Playstation 3 because of the number of franchise titles they have. If those titles are spread out, it's going to make things very tricky. There's alot of ifs and could bes in the next generation system race, but I doubt the results will be any different from the current one. Playstation will be number 1, Xbox 360 will be number 2, and Nintendo will be last. Unless Japanese gamers have completely shat themselves at the sight of the Revolution controller and MUST have it's quirkiness, I really just think the battle for spots 2 and 3 are really up for grabs. 360 launch seems really rushed in my opinion and doesn't even have any interesting games coming out until Gears of War in March.


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Dinav, Halo was infact a crappy FPS game compared to other titles.

IMO Halo was just a Tribes knock off marketed to a demo that hadnt seen such a game. It would be like going into africa and showing everyone "Super Blario Brothers" and being like, OMG I CREATED A HIT!

Tribes 2 came out before Halo and had perfect phyics for on foot and in vehical. The engine was also a lot better. The gameplay

Halo was only such a hit because it brought Multi Player FPS action to a demo that wasnt use to playing them. That would be the casual console gamer.

Talisin and I come from huge PC FPS backgrounds. Quake, Quake2, Quake3, Tribes 2, CS, DoD, BF and CoD are some of the games we played like crazy (Tal did more Q3 and on, I did Quake-Tribes2 and CoD).

At one point Talisin and I were playing Quake 3 just as much as we play FFXI.


We both played Halo (tal bought it for PC and then sold it to a friend)

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I guess I'll reply to Arlania's post later...as my work filter has cut off the page starting with the text because of excessive use of language haha.

Yarr are we comparing PC to consoles now? And Halo PC ran terribly.

And Rein, in actuality a majority of first party Microsoft games were, surprisingly, good. They just weren't top sellers for the most part. I'll pull up a list tonight if I get a chance.

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I guess I'll reply to Arlania's post later...as my work filter has cut off the page starting with the text because of excessive use of language haha.

Yarr are we comparing PC to consoles now? And Halo PC ran terribly.
And Rein, in actuality a majority of first party Microsoft games were, surprisingly, good. They just weren't top sellers for the most part. I'll pull up a list tonight if I get a chance.


Halo ran fine on my system =0

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News: Microsoft Praise Revolution Controller!
In an unexpected change from the big three companies slagging each other off, Microsoft's Peter Moore gives kudos to Nintendo!

Xbox VP Peter Moore has said he wanted "to give kudos [to] Nintendo for its attempt at innovation with the new controller." Whether the word "attempt" is meant to hint at some slight sarcasm is debatable, though the overall message ws positive.

Moore commented the new device would "bring people in that, as Iwata-san said, are either lapsed gamers or gamers that are intimidated by the complexity of the controller."

He referenced Microsoft's E3 speech, where it was said the company wanted a billion consumers touched by the gaming industry next generation. "That was an industry message. Certainly, we can see Nintendo rallying to that cry and reiterating what Robbie said on May 16th; I heard the same words come from Iwata-san of Nintendo yesterday."

Microsoft too, he said, were looking into ways to make its games more simple and approachable. But the company won't be copying Nintendo's controller anytime soon. Moore stressed Microsoft would try to make games more accessible while still retaining a level of complexity that makes them difficult to master.

"We need to grow as an industry," he concluded. "Having a simplified controller is one tactic in what is a larger strategic battle we need to face to grow this business."

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Dinav, Halo was infact a crappy FPS game compared to other titles.

IMO Halo was just a Tribes knock off marketed to a demo that hadnt seen such a game. It would be like going into africa and showing everyone "Super Blario Brothers" and being like, OMG I CREATED A HIT!

Tribes 2 came out before Halo and had perfect phyics for on foot and in vehical. The engine was also a lot better. The gameplay

Halo was only such a hit because it brought Multi Player FPS action to a demo that wasnt use to playing them. That would be the casual console gamer.

Talisin and I come from huge PC FPS backgrounds. Quake, Quake2, Quake3, Tribes 2, CS, DoD, BF and CoD are some of the games we played like crazy (Tal did more Q3 and on, I did Quake-Tribes2 and CoD).

At one point Talisin and I were playing Quake 3 just as much as we play FFXI.


We both played Halo (tal bought it for PC and then sold it to a friend)


you suck. I've played halo its awesome. However the game only really shows its fun in multi player. Have you actually played the game co op withanyone? Or better yet have you played it with 4 friends at the same time. Its seriously some of the best times i've ever had. One thing for sure, the xbox seriously lacked really good games. Even though i've preordered the 360 i'm by far not impressed at all with the release list of games. Only game that slightly pushes me to get the 360 is dead or alive 4. I've always liked doa series. Somebody made a good point though, alone the gamecube wouldn't satisfy my gaming needs. The way nintendo sets itself up, it looks to me like they want to put themselves in second place. Almost like they know they can't beat sony. Notice i don't say microsoft.

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I never ran Halo on my personal, but I've played it on Demo Alienwares :P.

And Microsoft or Sony praising the controller doesn't surprise me. Nintendo isn't really a threat to either of them.

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[quote=Dinav]And Rein, in actuality a majority of first party Microsoft games were, surprisingly, good.[/quote]
That was my point. lol
[quote=Reinheld]Xbox was a very nice system that had little to no support from Japanese gamemakers. I think it put up a good effort in trying to bring quality titles to the console to create a market for the Microsoft brand of console games, but ultimately failed.[/quote]
XBox did well in America, but not so great every place else that plays games.


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Dinav wrote:

And Microsoft or Sony praising the controller doesn't surprise me. Nintendo isn't really a threat to either of them.


That alone is exactly what i think nintendo wants from them. Either this is brillant marketing or complete insanity. I personally think they are trying to separate themselves from sony and and microsoft. Bleh god only knows.

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They already have. Which is a good thing. When Sony goes bankrupt from putting out shitty products for years, and Microsoft eventually loses too much money.. then we will all be playing video games with our TV remotes.


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Nintendo isnt going to beat out MS and Sony this gen or next gen or maybe even ever. It's because they are focusing on their games and their system. They really arnt worried about third party support when 90% of their first and second party games are selling in the millions.

Lets not forget that Nintendo was the only company making money off their console. They were also selling the cheapest. So even if nintendo is in dead last place, their accounting books arnt in the red like MS and Sony(when it comes to hardware).

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So even if nintendo is in dead last place, their accounting books arnt in the red like MS and Sony(when it comes to hardware).


Yeah, and the handheld market where Nintendo is king too.

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Anyone notice that the controller, if held horizontally brings up some retro feel of the very `1st Nintendo controller out there? With the movement pad on the left side and the "b" and "a" buttons on the right? Ponuh you posted it backwards you douche (j/k). Seriously compare it to the 1st gen Nintendo and see the resemblance. ^^


however, as much as I lose controllers in my couch that look like that anyway (TV, DVD, etc.), I'm scared the couch is also gonna like that new tasty treat!


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Anyone notice that the controller, if held horizontally brings up some retro feel of the very `1st Nintendo controller out there? With the movement pad on the left side and the "b" and "a" buttons on the right? Ponuh you posted it backwards you douche (j/k). Seriously compare it to the 1st gen Nintendo and see the resemblance. ^^


however, as much as I lose controllers in my couch that look like that anyway (TV, DVD, etc.), I'm scared the couch is also gonna like that new tasty treat!


Thats exactly what they are trying to do when you talk about the original controller, the controller is also pretty small also

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