Explain with facts and empyrical evidence that there is something wrong with making a game for more than one system. The only problem I can see is when one system is weaker hardware wise than the others and drags down the overall baseline of a game graphically. This should apply to simultaneous releases of course.

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Because with the time it takes to make a game attempting to put it on 3systems taxes the team behind the production. It's like trying to do a project for 1 teacher during the day or doing 3 projects for 3 different teachers in 1 day. As for empyrical evidence? Look at gaming now compared to gaming before. Look at what people consider good. Look at what most people buy. Look at what the systems are calling themselves. Sony isnt even refering to the PS3 as a gaming machine. It's basically a computer that plays Blue Ray.


Also the Wii will start at around 249$ and be taken down to about 179$ after the holiday season.

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Source please

Out of the mouth of the EB rep for the Wii and someone that works at Nintendo.

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Calling bullshit there.

Same. Calling bullshit on Anitha, not ruling out that it'll retail at 249 though.

According to his source who is someone he said works in the department that handles the agreements with with others for parts. The parts are cheap enough to warrent a lower price but obviously they dont wanna have it that low when it 1st comes out for profit reasons.

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It's also known that people who work for EB/Gamestop know shit. And in the rare occasion that you manage to catch one that actually knows something, they would NOT be the FIRST to know some major industry news. It's like going to a movie theater and asking the retard taking your ticket who's going to direct a film that hasn't even been optioned yet.

I'm going to agree with reinheld on this one. Alot of people that work in eb and gamestop seem to "think" they know the industry ohhhh soo well.

Yesterday i had a nerd arguement with this kid named mike from eb, because he kept saying the 360 is the best shit out there and its gonna blow everything out of the way. He's running around screaming the 360 is techincally superior to the ps3.

If the motherfucker knew anything about hardware he'd know the ps3 beats the 360 easily. after i said that.... he said the 360 is easy to program for and the ps3 is very difficult to program for.

When i told him developers said the same damn thing before for the ps2 back when it was released he acted like he didn't remember lol. Low and behold just because you freaken sell the games does not mean your an automatic industry leader.

Also! he went off saying the ms has alot of ace's up its sleeve . Talking about mistwalker or whatveer the fuck that studio is called. That small group that left squareenix to makes its own group and work for ms.
He went of saying that the game they're making is gonna blow everything out of the water.
I told him to quit being a fucking fan boy. Serious the fuck are you gonna get excited for a game, that nobodies shown a screenshot of, a laughable trailer that showed literal shit for nothing. How the fuck you hype something that barely excistes in the first place?

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Lol /clap mikey that guy was obvious MS fanboy

Does anybody remember how much hype fucking fable got? And though i do agree it was a good game. MS hyped that game up way too much for itself. It just didn't deliever.

I also remember when that small group of people left square back in the day. They ran around saying ohh were gonna beat se we're gonna make better rpgs. That company is crave entertainment. They make poker games... The first rpg they made was lame, and it also became the last.

SOrry to say but if ms fails to capture the asian markets properly the rest will fold eventually.

The original xbox was a cripple kid trying to play basketball. Cept daddy microsoft bought them the best Nanotechnolgy to allow him to move. Suffice to say if it wasn't for ms pumping out so much money onto both systems. The 360 would fail. They're just buying customers right now. Sony has its fuck ups. true. But if they garner enough japanese support the rest will have to follow.

And seriously fuck EA.

Getting support from them is like getting a bj from a hooker that'll sleep with anyone.

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Fable was hyped because it was a Lionhead game and Peter Molyneux is the king of overhyping shit and basically calls all of his games the second coming. (Except for The Movies, which ironically was one of his most solid games ever IMO). Don't get me wrong though, I loved Fable and I love Molyneux games

I really really like fable alot. But it didn't deserve the attention and all the press and bull shit that it got alongside with it. Enchanted arms is coming out of the 360 soon. In the advertisments its clearly designed to take advantage of the 360's hardware.

FUcking bull lol
That game was originally a ps2 game, later in line fromsoftware decided it would be a good idea to move it over to 360. For god only fucking knows what reason because the 360 only has like 150 thousand units in japan.

Btw that stupid eb kid claims ms has 1 million units sold in japan. THats bull shit lol. I've seen the numbers. The 360 last month sold 14 k units. The gamecube outsold it.
THE FUCKING GAMECUBE!

They are wayyy below 1 mil units in japan

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I am not buying PS3 at launch, but I am getting Wii solely on price. If I buy a Xbox360 it will be after something really intriguing comes out. Yeah MS has pretty much already lost in Japan lol. Of course PS3 will be more powerful than Xbox360, but right now with no actual system to play... or pictures of people actually playing the games we do not know exactly how much better the gameplay graphics are going to be. They should be a bit better, but not by that huge a margin from what I have seen. The 1080p compatibility of PS3 is an advantage that the PS2 did not have on the original Xbox.

HDTV is the shit for console gaming and makes a big difference imo visually. That was my favorite thing about the original Xbox (using it on my Dad's 65 inch HDTV).. that and online gaming. Even though I never got Xboxlive for my Xbox, I played it plenty of times on several other ppls Xboxes and it was damn fun. PS2 online was shit in comparison imo. PS2 just had more good games than Xbox, and it appears that might be the case with PS3. However any game that was released on all 3 systems was always better on Xbox if the developers were not lazy and included HDTV compatibiity (progressive scan). I could play Soulcalibur2 equally on PS2, Xbox and GC for example with the respective controllers, if that had HDTV support then it would be all but over... well other than Link (I imported SC2 for GC and bought it later for Xbox). Heihachi's controls in Soulcalibur2 were lame and I would rather just play Tekken to be honest if I am going to be him.

We will see which company has the most great exclusive games. I know that Nintendo will have their fair share if not more than Sony or MS. That and their system is cheaper with a controller that might change the way ppl play games somewhat. $600 bucks just seems stupid expensive compared to $400... let alone what Nintendo is doing... which could be under $200. PS3 better have the best games ever for me to buy it for $600... I don't care what else its used for to be honest, I would buy it mainly for video games.

I really don't think MS is just hoping on Mistwalker to make their great RPGs, Bioware will make great games for them too. Mistwalker though could be interesting since the guy who heads it is the actual creator of Final Fantasy, not just some guy who worked for SE. I know what kind of quality I am getting with Nintendo however and their system is the cheapest. Only thing that would make me buy a PS3 is a great FF game (not all of them are good enough to sell me a system to be honest). MGS have been released later on Xbox, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did that this generation (even though I could give a rat's ass about MGS).

To be honest I just hate Sony more than I hate MS and that speaks volumes for how much I hate Sony. I really hate MS Windows and alot of their other programs and how they do things don't get me wrong, but I fucking despise Sony and anything I have ever bought from them other than a walkman in the 80s has failed on me not long after I purchased it (gone through 3 PS2s and still on my original Xbox). My NES, SNES, N64 and GC have never failed on me at all in comparison. Well aside from blowing the dust out of old NES cartridges haha.

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Everyone's forgetting Ninja Gaiden was a xbox exclusive and to me i think it is wayyy better then MGS3 or any other PS2 exclusive. The graphics were fucking mind boggling when they first came out and ninja gaiden: black completely blows subst(stin)ance out of the fucking water. Fuck VR missions.

Idk, if those guys who made ninja gaiden hurry up and finish their fucking next-gen extreme beach volleyball, i really think a ninja gaiden sequel for360 will seal the deal for most borderline xbox or PS3? buyers.

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MS has alot more in the way of unique exclusive game franchises with the 360 than the Xbox. Gears of War looks fucking amazing, as does Lost Planet. Kameo was very fun too, but I've only played the demo in a store lol (Boxing flower is the best idea ever).

Honestly the way I see it, whether or not you buy a PS3 is tied directly to how much you like/want to play the FF and MGS franchises

Katamari Damacy? Odama?

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Not even close to the popularity of Metal Gear or FF

Nah Ninja Gaiden was easily the best action game released for the last generation of consoles. Not even fucking close. Closest would have to be Devil May Cry and I beat that twice on different difficulties in a couple days (2 and 3 weren't as good). Ninja Gaiden fucking owned face. The only detractors to Ninja Gaiden I have met were crybabies complaining it was too hard and that there was no gameshark for Xbox. I had a good laugh at one kid when I worked at EB who said that.

Yeah I do agree that MS will have some decent first party stuff, I will probably buy a 360 for Gears of War from what it looked like when I saw people playing it multiplayer. I have seen a little of Lost Planet too, but not enough admittedly. I played Kameo in a CompUSA and it was pretty fun. So far though I would have to play Gears of War myself to know if I would buy it. I did play Dead Rising at a friend's house and it was fun also (1000 zombies to kill on screen ftw).

I liked Katamari Damacy, but that is a short 20 dollar game that I could beat as a rental. Never played Odama though. I don't like to pay for games I can beat easily in a few hours to be honest. That is why I like RPGs obviously since they tend to be long at least, but not always hard.

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And? cause we all know popularity means a good game. I mean hell look at all EA games. Every frat asshole loves those so they must be fantastic games!!!!

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Haha I can agree with you that popularity doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to quality. Plenty of people out there with bad taste. I like to watch NFL Football for example, but even I realize that Madden is a piece of shit game. Hell sports aren't represented that well usually in video game form anyway, well aside from a few that are more arcadish and not sim in gameplay. EA just makes mediocre to crap games period.. way too many insanely horrible movie licensed games sell also.

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But people I don't think will buy a console specifically to play some EA soccer game or whatever whereas just about everyone I ask about ps3 says "I'm waiting for mgs4 and/or ff13", as am I before I even think about buying one.

If I do and I like them then of course will look into other games too but its the allure of specific games that will attract me to the ps3 over anything else, nothing about price/release date/how the fuck it works inside/fancy controllers/how much i like or dislike the company/compatibility with whatever/online capabilites/if you can run it off a hamster I just don't give a shit.

I want mgs + I want ff13 + They will be on the ps3 = I want a ps3.

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Mandos wins lol.

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