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-Creature pathfinding and overall common sense. Great AI I thought but the creatures made some questionable decisions.

-More definate way to see if your actions are considered good or evil. I was always good but sometimes I did things that my villages obviously hated. So in a few campaigns I remained neutral rather than good.

-MORE MULTIPLAYER!...this is a big one. I played with my friend a few times and it had so much potential. I think they'll improve this alot.

-Miracle and/or town interface! I know they call alot of current RTS's "Spaceship games" because they have huge UIs but just a minimal thing would be nice.

So, Black & White 2 is on the horizon. And where the first game had some game play flaws, it seems Mr. Molyneux learned from the mistakes, listened to the fan base, and has made sure the devs have addressed the problems. That being said... I'm pretty anxious to get my hands on the sequel.

All the things that made the first Black & White a semi-success are still there, but now, get this, there are reasons for playing the game: a plot, a goal. Ooooo... Wow.

Anyway, the cartoony representations of your "conscience" are still around to guide you in the right moral direction. BUT, and this may just be my misguided, semi-ambiguous sense of morals speaking, I bet they agree on some things!

Author:	Ponuh [ Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:28 pm ]
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Is anyone else as excited as I am for this game? It seriously looks like tits and a half. I'm sure many of you played the original, which was generally really well recieved. I liked it alot, though I could see the room for improvements. Things I hope they fix... -Creature pathfinding and overall common sense. Great AI I thought but the creatures made some questionable decisions. -More definate way to see if your actions are considered good or evil. I was always good but sometimes I did things that my villages obviously hated. So in a few campaigns I remained neutral rather than good. -MORE MULTIPLAYER!...this is a big one. I played with my friend a few times and it had so much potential. I think they'll improve this alot. -Miracle and/or town interface! I know they call alot of current RTS's "Spaceship games" because they have huge UIs but just a minimal thing would be nice. The combat looks very cool. It now has a Total War RTS feeling. Evil gods can summon and train armies. I hope good gods can do it too, heh. Also, there's a sweet effect where the land literally changes by your alignment. If you're evil it will twist and bend and if you're good it will become your own personal garden of eden. Gamespot: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/blackwhite2/index.html Official Site http://www.lionhead.com/bw2/ Populous and the first game are probably some of the most ambitious games ever made I think. This is just moving the series nearer to perfection. I'm so excited haha. P.S. the game is drop dead gorgeous too

Author:	arlania [ Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:16 pm ]
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cant wait!

Author:	Valenia [ Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:39 pm ]
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Black and White was great. I had a tiger that would pick up random villagers walk to the ocean and see how far he could throw them. Oh yeah and he also enjoyed eating people rather than what I tried to give him.

Author:	Ketrebu [ Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:15 am ]
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Quote: -Creature pathfinding and overall common sense. Great AI I thought but the creatures made some questionable decisions. The creature now has a "Thought bubble" that occasionally pops up while you are using the leesh on him to tell you what he's thinking of doing. So when he's carrying a villager, it now actually will tell you if he was thinking of eating it, throwing it or taking it somewhere, etc. So now you know if you're actually praising/punishing it for the right thing. Before you might see him pick up a villager so you slap him for it so he doesn't eat it, but he might have been planning to bless the villager or take him to his house. You wouldn't know about that, and the result would be some very confused/messed up creatures that don't know what it is you actually want. Quote: -More definate way to see if your actions are considered good or evil. I was always good but sometimes I did things that my villages obviously hated. So in a few campaigns I remained neutral rather than good. The problem with B&W1 was that in order to be "good" you had to be a micromanagement master. Being good was all about keeping your villagers stocked with all their resources. Problem was that if you stopped giving them resources to do something else, you would slowly fall back to "Evil" because you weren't giving them resources. Which meant the only way to be good was to keep doing resource management all damn day. That was fixed so resources have a very small impact on your good/evil alignment. Peter Molyneux also admitted there was a huge error in the AI for the original Creature! Apparently in the original game, if you didn't punish the creature, it would be slightly "approved" of what he did (you didn't punish him, so it must be ok to do!) What this meant was that you had to watch your creature all the time to make sure he didn't do anything evil and you couldn't just let him get along on his own or he'd fall to evil. Quote: -MORE MULTIPLAYER!...this is a big one. I played with my friend a few times and it had so much potential. I think they'll improve this alot. No multiplayer for the release, not even a skirmish. It's being saved for a patch and/or expansion. Quote: -Miracle and/or town interface! I know they call alot of current RTS's "Spaceship games" because they have huge UIs but just a minimal thing would be nice. They added an interface you can access occasionally. It's minimalistic but there is one for doing things like setting which fags you want, what leesh you want, what buildings you want to construct and to pick up your miracles from. You don't see it much but it will occasionally pop up from the bottom of the screen.

Author:	Arnwulf [ Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:33 am ]
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God I can't wait for this game lol, the first one was so fun. I used to see how far I could throw villagers and force them to build temples in my honor. lol I'm a vengeful god...

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Author:	Yarr [ Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:24 am ]
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I really enjoyed Black and White. I can't wait for this one.

Author:	Ponuh [ Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:32 pm ]
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gucomics.com had a strip on BnW2 today... GUwoody wrote: So, Black & White 2 is on the horizon. And where the first game had some game play flaws, it seems Mr. Molyneux learned from the mistakes, listened to the fan base, and has made sure the devs have addressed the problems. That being said... I'm pretty anxious to get my hands on the sequel. All the things that made the first Black & White a semi-success are still there, but now, get this, there are reasons for playing the game: a plot, a goal. Ooooo... Wow. Anyway, the cartoony representations of your "conscience" are still around to guide you in the right moral direction. BUT, and this may just be my misguided, semi-ambiguous sense of morals speaking, I bet they agree on some things!

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