Actually they're preorders for preorders! Aren't you excited! You can preorder your preorder here: http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?catego ... s_id=6997&

Barf.

So that's like the FFVII pre-order from that other time?

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I dont see a price listed. If you preorder a preorder of a preorder blah blah do they eventually charge you the price of the PS3? Id like to know the price before I even decide on preordering. I hear it's around 500$ ._.

No Dmitry, this is serious. FFVII is not even coming out for PS3 as of now.

499 for basic and 599 for the advanced package i think.

that is for the bare bones system. God knows the packages will include 2 controllers 2 games and 200 things you dont need or want.


PS3 is going to be EXPENSIVE!

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And that's why im either buying a Wii, since I believe Nintendo wont price it too high, or im not buying any next gen console or a while. WoW keeps me entertained so w/e.

Wii is expected to be 199-249

People are crowning the next gen to the Wii. Since it costs about the same for a 360 and Wii

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You wrote wii60 Yarr. I fixed it lol

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except that wii isn't "next-gen". Nintendo is saying that they're not even competing head to head with the other consoles in the conventional sense

Technically speaking, the XBox 360 isn't next Gen. The only system that can really be considered a giant leap in terms of technology is the PS3. Wii might be, only because it's a big change in how games are played.

i would really argue that kind sir. The 360 is next gen. It covers the HD era. High def or high rez games are next gen. I'd label wii as New age tech and shit lol.

THe ps3 and 360 are more similiar if you really give the inside of the systems a hard look. Both use a multi core or several processor idea. The graphics cards boths though powerful. Are a bit simliar to each other. The ps3 would have come out at the same price as the 360, if it wasn't for the fact that they included blue ray. By simply labeling the ps3 as true next gen only because its using blue ray as its main format, isn't fair to the other systems lol. MS probably would have included hd dvd on its 360, but at the time it would have delayed the system and they would have had to wait.
The 360 can achieve 720p , the ps3 1080p. Most hdtv in peoples houses are 720p friendly. 1080p just came out. And the tv's that support sell for 3k$ and higher. So if your willing to spend 3000$ plus 600$ just to feel like your truely in next gen. Be my guest. But btw. Most ps3 games coming out will ship 720p highest. Why? Because it already costs a shit load to produce these games. And pushing it to 1080 p not only pushes the budget it. It can delay the game, because of they need to test and see if the game will run smoothly or not.

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Xbox360 runs DirectX 10 games and those are the next generation of games like the new Unreal engine for example. PS3 will also have the new Unreal engine games minus Gears of War (wouldn't surprise me if it eventually went to PC and PS3). 360 is graphically next gen technology wise. Blue ray might end up like BETA vs VCRs with HD DVD since one of them isn't going to be supported by everyone. 720p is already in alot more households than 1080p capable HDTVs are. PS3 is looking bloated and overpriced versus the Xbox360 and especially the Wiii. Kind of like the PSP and the DS.

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no, i'm saying that Wii isn't "next gen" because nintendo has said "wii is NOT 'next gen'"

thats nintendos attempt to really seperate itself from sony and microsoft. It does have next gen ideals. But finding a different market, and pulling new players into the mix, they'll change the entire industry.

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Well you're saying two things there. One of them is Nintendo's ideals, which isn't to move gaming forward in the same direction (next-generation) but to move in a different direction and change gaming (new-generation). It's really just terminology and doesn't matter.

Next Gen really isn't based solely on graphics. A system may look Next Gen, but if they don't offer anything new to the gaming platform from the older generation, they really aren't. There's a certain amount of innovation needed for something to be truely called a Next Gen console.

I fail to see how the 360 innovates aside from being a top of the line PC for dirt cheap. PS3 is full of true next generation technology. That's without dispute. Those cell processors they're running on? Made specifically for the PS3. Blu-Ray shennanigans? I agree that it's not really needed and could end up failing hugely but it's still next gen.

And covering HD is just that. It's only covering it. Microsoft isn't taking much of a risk in diving head first into the whole thing. With games like Metal Gear Solid 4 absolutely needing to be on Blu-Ray (Hideo Kojima's own words) it's starting to seem like the format is slowly being embraced by key game developers for Sony. And the statement made about the HD TVs is the exact reason why the 360 isn't a Next Gen system. The HD support for the 360 is for an acceptable resolution for current HDTVs. But what about in a year from now? What about in two years? I'd also argue that the lower end model fo the PS3 is not only not a next gen system, but also Sony's way of raping you in the ass.

The only way I can see 360 being a Next Gen system is through XBox Live. And even that is from the previous generation of consoles. Microtransactions are a smart idea for game makers, it's just fucking lame that they can put out half finished games and just sell you more suppliments to complete it.

yea. They're bravely trying to change the entire industry, and on top of that they're trying to bring new players who've never thought of playing games in the first place into the deal. An impressive idea, to say the least

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Acceptable? If you actually look at the same amount of people moving onward to hdtv, most owners have 720p sets. I don't know very many people who are going to spend $4-5k on buying the new ps3 capable tvs.
Also, on E3 alot of the demos that were running for ps3 games, were running at 720p actually a good 97% of them ran at 720p. Many developers have mentioned making a game running from the ground up using 1080p is going to sacrifice alot, even on the ps3.

This isn't like comparing the ps2 to the dreamcast. There was a very obvious gap between those 2.

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Yup. Acceptable. Don't make me quote myself.

More like catering to a niche market. I'll accept acceptable next gen graphics.
Look at gears of war and tell me that isn't next gen lol. I'm not saying i'm a 360 fan. In fact i barely play it. But honestly this war thats coming. Nobody knows a real clear winnder. I'm saying sony because of the japanese support. FF , metal gear etc etc. But ms if their cards right.The may do better than what I'm expecting them to.

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Wii could be considered the..."next generation" of controlling games...

Blue ray technology and Cell processor technology is all Sony bullshit proprietary technology used to make stupid consumers buy all Sony products in a scheme to make them believe it all works better together. This makes wasting thousands upon thousands of dollars fine on marginal technological improvements. So if you want to get the most out of your PS3 you need a Sony HDTV, Sony Home Theater Receiver, etc.. and all if all that crap has cell processors then it will all run faster together. There is nothing graphically that PS3 is going to do that will blow away the Xbox360 and that is what defines next generation is the graphics. Gameplay the only innovator this current wave of consoles is Nintendo. Sony is going for the best graphics this time around and you will have to wait for it and pay out your ass.

I haven't heard of any exclusive titles that I would consider to be worthwhile for PS3 other than a FF game and that isn't all too appealing to me anymore. I don't watch that many DVDs to be honest and I would be buying the console for games anyways. Nintendo is the only one to at least attempt to offer something different aside from better graphics technology this time.

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The only game I'll feel like I'm missing out on is MGS4. But Sony could easily find itself not only out of the console business after this, but they could be entirely out of business. Haha.

Wasn't MGS2 released later for Xbox anyway? MGS3 would have as well if it wasn't so late in Xbox's life cycle. I doubt Sony will go totally bottom up after this, but they should look at the price they are putting this console out for seriously. Xbox360 is already too expensive for a console in my opinion, PS3 just goes way too far. Might as well build myself another PC lmao.

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yea they are risking the entire corp. If the ps3 fails, they could be in alot of trouble.
Next year isn't gonna be a bad year for sony though. If you take a look tv sales have been picking up.On top of that 2 big movie releases are coming out next year. Spiderman 3, and don't laugh because its sony's second biggest money maker in terms of movie tickets. Resident evil 3 the movie.

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That one two punch at the movies is gonna pay for some of the lackings, because of the ps3 huge looses. I could also see them recouping a nice little chunk off licensing fees on spiderman 3 the game. Which could be an exlusive on ps3, but it makes better business sense if it was multi platform

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