yeah FFXI is definately different, getting to 75 in 3 weeks is just about bottom line impossible (unless you have 4358043580 WHM or RDM tailing you around everywhere you go for 24/7)

actually, i just like the combat style more in WoW because its closer to DAoC, more interactive

(especially since i tend to play melees over casters)

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I have a question, Whats wrong with taking only a month to max out in WoW? Its alot more fun doing so then FFXI, and you dont have to grind all day like you do in FFXI, the way i see it theres 8 or so jobs in wow, and that could give you a whole 8 months of lvling right there, to have fun with every job, then you have to get all your end game gear which will take about another month depending on your guild and such, then theres the pvP excitment, and growth of battlegrounds and ect...

WoW offers TONS, alot more then just Maxing out and then camping NMS.

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I think some koreans on korean beta actually plvled a mage to 60 in 3 days of gaming time.. hahaha

But yeah, I agree with hcc and yarr... WoW is a lot easier game.... (its only hard to do end game stuff now, since there just aren't enough ppl at end game lvl)

And lvling to 75 even with a perma group is slower i think than lvling to 60 solo in WoW. (Of course I'll admit lvling in WoW is a LOT more fun... prob. cuz its easier).

In the end.... to each their own.

Play what you want for fun....

Hccmike, my point was this:

People are comparing a 2 year old mmorpg with 2 expansions to a new mmorpg with none. This is denial maybe?

My post was talking about when the level cap of ffxi was 50, what would you have done then? 2 years down the road in wow, people will say "what would we have done when the level cap was 60". That's when you can start comparing content.

You guys only talk about how old ffxi is when it favors ffxi, but when you talk about lack of content in wow, you conveniently leave that out.

Also, I got my black mage to 75 in ffxi. I got rank 10 and I got my airship pass(of course). I had decent gear and I killed a 'few' HMNs, and I got sky. After that, there was nothing that I 'wanted' to do. I didn't want to go to Dynamis and get bitched at if I needed to go afk, or show up 5 mintues late. I read your forums and it really didn't look like fun (no offense). That's also the same reason I won't be doing many raids in WoW, but, the difference is that there will be other things to do, on my own schedule, and just with my friends.

The last straw in ffxi though was trying to level up SMN in the newer ps2-crowd. I just couldn't take being forced to party with rude inconsiderate kids or snoddy JPs who wouldn't want a smn anyway, let alone a NA one. Also smn was a huge let down for me, it was the main reason I wanted to play ffxi in the first place. It was my favorite thing in all FF games.. but a huge dissapointment here. But .. In WoW you can solo, or duo with a friend (which I am doing), and it is fun. It may not be challenging, but neither was ffxi seriously. It was just tedious leveling up. If you want to compare raids to Dynamis, I don't think molten core or any future raids will be easy in WoW. Don't forget Dynamis wasn't added until almost 2 years alter, so we'll come back to that subject in 2 years.

Also, this may be minor, but what are you going to do with your gear in ffxi? How is all that gear going to pay off for you? In WoW, you can at least use your gear in pvp while waiting for new content. When ranking system is in, that will be interesting.

So anyway, WoW and ffxi may both be mmorpgs, but they're so different I guess they aren't comparable. To me, wow is a lot more fun and laid back, and ffxi is not hard, but long and tedious, and it just doesn't pay off for the shit you need to put up with. It's just my opinion though. Someday you'll be burned out on ffxi, and when you do, try WoW, it will be very refreshing

yes I already said I Ddin't read the whole post.

and again I didnt' read ur whole post again..

Whatever you said Agreed

2 different game.

Just don't think some of wow peopel should be ashamed of playing that game.

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well, most people are glad to be playing a game that isn't just a blatant time sink with nothing to show for it in the end, not ashamed.

Yes but look at you all's smart ass remarks. omgfgitsnotaneasygameomfg or omfgwegothroughinstanceormcveryfast or omfggethardtogetarmorinoneday..

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I don't see any smartass remarks from my end.

lets just make out, be friends, and drop this thread :D

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yea but you are getting annoying just like the others. This thread wasn't just about you was it

omgIdidntmakenosmartassremark

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http://www.myspace.com/hccmike

I didn't read most of the posts on this thread because it apparently got badly sidetracked.

But in my opinion, the removal of the casino's was an extremely good thing. I would perhaps like to see some "version" of casino's, but with a more warcraft-esque slant to them. Perhaps a gnome/goblin made slot machine where 3 gnomes wins you a prize.

Someone should open a casino on this board

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The timesink thing is true for WoW too :P For all MMORPGs, actually. It's just that it takes longer to get things in FFXI than WoW, which can seem like either a huge waste of time or a huge accomplishment depending on how the person playing feels about it.

But 3 gnomes IS the prize.....

yah thats a sweet idea!! have like a for real casino but run by the game so theres no general chat spam and people ripping other ppl off. Should e-mail it to blizzard, unlike most other game companies, blizzard actually listens to their players and is willing to do something if its a good idea.

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