http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi

Has ALL information up to date on WoW from beta testers, just click on class for info on the class u are intrested in it has ALL skills up to lvl 60 with all the cost ect for them.

Your welcome in advance for this one

Im playing on a PvP server as a Rogue and gonna be straight up cut-thoat. Joining my old PK guild from a few other mmorpgs.

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Dozi - 60 Rogue =

I cant say how much i hate the look of EQ2.

I love blizzard so yeah ill jump on the WoW banwagon, assuming SE doesnt fix FFXI Ill just play WoW for the PvP.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Fuck you, buddy!

This FFXI and WoW, the ones you love so much...if it wasn't for EQ, I guaruntee they wouldn't be there. D&D and UO were also important factors in these game's underlying mechanics, but EQ popularized it and showed to the other companies that MMOs were profitable. EQ was a GREAT game. Excellent, more INNOVATIVE than any of these new games.

It's true, SWG was shit, and PS was out of their element. They just..tried to do too much with SWG and it didn't work out.

Everyone seems to hate the look of EQ2. I dont think it looks that bad, a bit grainy but still cool looking. Kinda Tekken-ish actually IMO. If WoW wasn't coming out, I would consider trying EQ2.

Dozi, help me make an uber warrior or something.

pretty much boils down to if your playing Alliance or Horde.

The best warriors for physical dmg will be Tauren on the Horde side. They are the largest race and have more STR and STAM then any other race if i remeber correctly. They get Duel Wield also at lvl 20 i believe, from what im told Warrior will ALWAYS get a group as they are the only viable tank other then Paladin....who cant even tank as good as a warrior.

Alliance side, id make a dwarf war since they get more STR then others. Click that link i gave a few posts up, it will tell u everything warriors can do, theres also different lvls of abilities, the higher the lvl the more powerful it is obviously....so i guess you could max out certain things before others makeing urself and uber warrior.

As for myself ill be a rogue maxing out all abilities like backstab/stealth/envcirate because i want to be a good PvPer and also do crazy dmg in a group. Problem is rogue cant take hits for shit from what im told by a friend whos in the beta.

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Dozi - 60 Rogue =

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tauren war wouldnt get dual weild

unless its rs abil that i dun know about

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SOE didn't MAKE EQ. They bought it and ran it into the ground. Huge difference.

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Dark is banned from ever touching my computer again.

Verant did. And they also made SWG.

AND EQ2. So I'm talking about Verant. Right.

no wrong.. soe takes control of games and fuks them up bad.. EVERY GAME. the devs usually takem back and makem better.

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Sorta like what I'm about to do to this thread. Hey, who's making a human? Let's all have an orgy or make out or something. I'm gonna have the biggest tits ever.

<-- human warlock here.

/cuddle

Verant has not had control of EQ for about 2 years now. They are not makine Eq2 SOE is.

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Dozi - 60 Rogue =

Oh. Fack.
McQuaid is gone, too...Fuck EQ2 then.


Vangaurd is the "real" EQ2

You dont want dual wield in its current form, i hear you do less damage and miss a hella lot more with dual wield, but with all the complaining about this they should change it soon i guess

Im still sticking to Dwarf Warrior with all the dmg tallents i can get my hands on

Then ill probably take him up the Rogue path too once War is capped, having been a BRD in FFXI i wanna get a sick DD in WoW while keeping all the usefulness i can

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Kasdaye Regnar

Normally I'm not interested in the PvP aspect of computer games, but some of the things I've been reading about WoW have intrigued me.

From the official site:

Battlegrounds are special zones that are always flagged for PvP. They exist on both the PvP and normal servers, and are considered contested territory. Players on the PvP server will be familiar with contested territory, but for players on the normal servers, they will find it more dangerous because the moment they set foot in this zone, they can be attacked by the opposing side. However, there will be incentives for adventuring in these zones, including team-based goals for PvP.

For example, our first battleground, Alterac Valley, which is near the Alterac Mountains, is set up like any other zone. Inside, you'll find monsters, quests, a Horde town, and an Alliance town. The quests - which are more rewarding because you are in a PvP area - might be what lure you in, but as more players on your side arrive, you might get swept up in an attack on the enemy's town. If you manage to kill the commander there, their town will get razed, and your side will accumulate team honor points.

Something long-term we want to add to battlegrounds to make them even more fun are siege vehicles. We'll begin implementing them after WoW ships, but the intention is to give players catapults and other siege vehicles, and then increase the challenge when it comes to razing the opposing side's town. Once siege vehicles are in, the mechanism for conquering the other side will be to destroy their buildings and not just to kill their NPCs.

PvP is the only thing that has my interest.


I miss DAoC

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RIP Shiloh

I think we should all join the PvP server mainly cause people on these servers should be overall better people.

Imagine you go into a PvP zone on a normal sever and instantly 200 people want to kill you

On a PvP server people will only fight you when they are being plan gay or you have annoyed them also you will become a much strongger player if you are always on the look out.

I think we need a thread discussing the pros and cons of each server to help us decide - a bad part of a PvP server might be if your getting XP and you have like 5% hp left after the fight then someone comes and stabs you in the back, however i think there is a system that means they cant do this (ill look into it)

PvP will be great im sure but need to make sure it doesnt suck i can imagine at lvl 60 (cap) on a normal server you sit in the PvP zone just killing anyone that comes in, on a PvP server all the lvl 60's would be doing more quests cause they can kill anyone whenever they like

Just my opinion like i said can we get a thread on PvP in WoW to help us decide :D we will own either im sure

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Kasdaye Regnar

I would think that the view that pvp players are "better" people is a bit of a miss-calculation. As an ex-EQ pvp player and pvp mudder I can tell you from those experiences that people fight you whenever possible. Depending of level restrictions and looting rights etc. I used to exp off of killing players on a few muds because of the slackened restrictions, looting rights, bonus exp to pk, and that it was a perfectly acceptable practice.

Dont get me wrong, how can i explain...

On a PvP server you know what your in for
- Chance people will walk up and attack you, regardless of what your doing
- Chance you might pick a fight with someone that kills you in 1 hit
- Chance to lose items in death (not sure if this will happen or not i need to read more about the PvP looting rights)

On a regional PvP server
- Walk into zone, find lvl 60s sat waiting on prey
- Try to do a quest ask someone in the PvP region (reply 'No thanks im killin n00bs')

Hard to explain but i think overall the PvP server will be a nicer place also probably a quieter server in general cause people would be scared to join one. Thus more mobs around and better chance of selling equip at higer prices.

This is all still theory and i plan to go read up all i can about the PvP aspect but at the moment from PvP games ive played the environment is often better only downside is you will find for the initial weeks people going round killing randomly but you just have to be better than them

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Kasdaye Regnar

i want
-a class that can solo quickly without being frail
-a class that is fun to play
-a class where i can fuck up or suck and no one notices lol (like blm ffxi)
-and a class that is wanted in battles

which class fits that best?

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RIP Shiloh - I'll never forget ya

Probably the PLD they are like an all round do anything job.

Average healers, average tanks, kinda low dmg but they are due to fix it, and they are a bit like a bard with all their party boosting effects

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Kasdaye Regnar

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ok that's what i'll be! (if i play)

________Dwarf____Human_______
Dmg..........√
Def............................√
Evade........................√
Crits..........................√
Magic.........................√
HP.............√
MP.............................√
Regen........................√

Looks like human paladin for me then. I did enjoy paladin on Diablo2 since it was so much like a bard. But TS do you still want to be a paladin?

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RIP Shiloh - I'll never forget ya