heh. I've never played WoW eh? sure thing there. Just go back to your little game and we will enjoy ours. this isn't the forum for this so I'll end this with a little note for you to think about:
WoW is ass as Yarr says in the Forum Index. He's right. You really like ass, so go have all the ass you want assman. And yes smart ass I have played WoW, notice how i said "waste of money"??? Hence, I wasted money when I purchased that assgame. so /goodbye assman
And no, we don't /bow to Japs. Just because it came out in Japan first don't mean a damn thing. You bow to ass. So go enjoy your ass.

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Thedien 45DRK <Ifrit / Hades> <retired>
Havik 18WHM <Ifrit> <retired>

Yeah, I'll have to agree with Yarr on this one.... FFXI definitley has a MUCH better storyline that WoW... lately, i dont even READ quests that WoW gives.

And as far as a storyline? only one i see is "we're at war"....

Thedien:
FFXI is nice, no one ever said it was a BAD game, it just has it bad points.
I don't know if your sig is true, but if it is... and you're only lvl 45, I'd say you have a much more enjoyable future left for you in FFXI. However, By the time you hit 60, things might start too look rustic and the annoyance of looking for groups might settle in.

In a way, WoW basically took all the techinically poor aspects of FFXI and revamped them.

If there are 3 things that I can pick that I hated about FFXI:
1- Waiting for groups to exp. (perfect groups at that)
2- Camping NMs and HNMs (HNMs become drama-central)
3- Crafting system that was way outscaled for its lvl.
3.5 - I left FFXI before gil sellers really became rampant.... although from what I hear from ppl, it sounds like its a good reason to hate the game now. (i bought ochiudo's kote for 250K and sniper rings for 300K ecah at the time i played).

Of course to be fair..:
Things i hate about WoW:
1- Bad AH system, and high % age of soulbound items means very few good items ever in AH. (This could be good b/c it is a deterrent to gil sellers).
2- Poor story system and lack of unique class armor. (I really liked AF armor in FFXI).
3- No multi-class system for one character. (I really liked that in FFXI)
But i guess this is more of a role playing thing... .can't have troll paladins~.

Oh and when it come to intimidation? I don't know.... having all monsterst the same size in FFXI was a real letdown.... I guess the only intimidating about Shadow Lord is his difficulty... and I'm sure the fire thing depicted in the photo is no pushover either.

I'd have to say this is more intimidating~

Dozi

First off all I wasnt bashing WoW in anyway so I dont know why you had to turn it into some kinda WoW Vs FFXI thing..


Besides.

FFXI youre argument sucks. WoW is an old rehashed story line. Generic, boring and 2d.

While Im sure you and alot of other people feel FFXI was a "job" and you had to "work" to much. I feel the total opposite. I log into FFXI. I find out whats going on, how many people in ls are on and stuff like that. If theres an NM timer up we go camp the NM. If theres no timer or too many people camping the NM we go do Sky NMs.

People who cry abotu having to sit around LFG for hours are the people who were to lazy to make a group themselves. When I XPed on WHM I would LFG and if I couldnt get any groups Id just do something else. Some people when XPing get tunnel vision and forget that theres other stuff to do in this game besides grind.

Wow really isnt some kinda Jesus of MMORPGs. Its hardly even a revolutionary title. At least Final Fantasty was the first PS2\PC title.

When you guys bash Final Fantasy you seem to forget that its a 3.5 year old game. Hell, its older than DAoC.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Lol, well when it comes exping, even YOU yarr knows how hard it is to get exp. Even with members from your own LS.... I can recall someone complaining about how hard it was to get exp parties. :P

But anyone at that time who was 75, knew there EXISTED a grind, and a nasty one at that. Maybe if you have just reached 75 now, you took the game at a leiusrely pace with enjoyment... but if you did it in 6 months of less, I have to commend you, b/c it involves quite an exp grind.

And its true, there are other things to do in FFXI other than exping... and namely its just farming or crafting (crafting really isnt an option unless ur loaded).... oh and helping others. Ballista was kind of a late addition~.

And I dont think "Final Fantasy"'s age really applies in the same sense that Warcraft's storyline doesnt really apply to WoW. Sure Warcraft 3 had a pretty neat story line etc.. but I dont see any of that continuing in WoW.

And similar to FF series... not one of those games really tied into its "Sequel" (I love them all still).

To be honest, if FF improved on some of its techinical aspects, I'd easily pick that over WoW anyday... but unfortunately that really isnt going to happen.

Besides, these things are just games, not a religion... no need to have any sort of "loyalty"

*Cheers*

Please, go die in a corner somewhere. How many times did you just say ass? I see both your characters are retired, you've never even made it passed level 45, so how can you even JUDGE ffxi? Level 45 is still like 4 hour levels in a group, at the higher levels it takes days man. WoW it's easy to get 1 level+ a day AND it incorporates the "Fun" aspects of video games instead of slaving to get a lousy level that wont do ANYTHING for you life.


It's harder then you think yarr, both dozi and I were DRKs, im sure he agrees that making parties wasnt as dandy as it sounds. It still takes a long time to make a decent party with people who know what there doing. Half the times you try to make a good party, oh look "JP ONRY FUCK NA" or you get gil farmers who are rank 2 and have no chocobo liscence yet. That's one of the reasons I quit, people saying that "You can make a party", but I couldnt. I couldnt do either, LFG or make a group, so I quit.

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LMAO that is a real mob? I thought u just drew that in paint and was messing with us.

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Joining Of Six

Dont get me wrong the story in FF11 was cool, but thats all it really had IMO. Warcraft has a story line that you have played through in EVERY game, same game same premise. Final Fantasy jumps all over the place with no continuous story through 1-11. Thats what i was saying, Final Fantasy has always had a good story line but I want history. . . That way when you do kill something that has been in the story a while its that much more satisfactory.

I liked FF11 when i played it, we all did. But then I found something that i liked better so shut the fuck up about what game is better and go back to playing your game and ill play mine.

rawr difference of opinions....

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Dozi - 60 Rogue =

All I have to say, you guys missing out on prom. story. Some of you didn't even finish zilart story... That was amazing also, especially after you get the 17.

Yes I have played wow on my friends account, the only fun part is really the raiding other people etc. Thats about it, its fun and funny at the same time. However, its an over all too easy game, and grpahic wise doesn't appeal to me too much. Both games a waste of time irl, but ffxi is just a more challanging one, even at the end game part.

Really don't need to listen to what each other say... Its you that make whatever game you are playing more fun.
For the people that don't find challenging games exciting, wow is for you
For the people that say they don't have time to waste sitting doing nothing on ffxi, wow is for you to waste time on lol

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http://www.myspace.com/hccmike

Wow is an ego feeder.

As for FF-FFXI not having a continus story...

Thats just stupid.

I dont want to play the elevanth re-telling of Final Fantasy. I want to play a quality RPG made by company who knows how to write and create original and entertaining stories.

I like my games the same way I like my movies. Original. Im not about to go out and watch the 10th remake of my favorite movie.

I will however watch a new movie produced by my favorite people.

Dont get me wrong, I like mario, zelda, metroid and all that. I just dont think repeating stories are good for RPG games.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

ego feeder, story line, pvp games..... heh in the end none of it really matters...

hccmike is right... they are both wastes of time and its a matter of which is more fun to YOU the player.

And just a side note about hcc's comment about finishing ZM...

the problem with FFXI's great story was taht there were literally months of game time inbetween each part.... i kinda forgot the story and didnt care eventually.

That's the hardest part of a MMORPG i guess, is implementing a storyline yet keeping players to play the game for a long period oftime.

I think the story 'continued' not 'repeated'

WoW takes place 4 years after Warcraft 3. I think..

And let me guess.

The Alliance and hord are at war again. right?

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Yes, but the game allows you to side with certain factions also not just horde or alliance. There are people outside those 2 who are also at war with one another, and by questing for certain factions u can get different things, use different towns and their vendors, and when everyone hits the end game faction Argent Dawn, you can buy epic weapons and such with high enough reputation with them.

Course you probobly need to kill thousands of the corrupted undead and dark magicians in the plaguelands to get exhaulted status.

Each quest you do determines your own story line pretty much. Theres countless ways to go, and many different factions u can choose to raise ur rep with.

and BTW there are portals around the world guarded by lvl 60+ elite dragonkin, and if they are all activated, a world event happens....the armies of undeath attack the world through the portals until people figure out how to close them off.....i for one plan on opening them when my guild maxes out

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Dozi - 60 Rogue =

Aside from the last line. Everything you listed is generic MMO stuff.

The idea of a world even that caused compleat chaos is funny though haha.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Yeah the same story over and over is gay, but the better games have a story line that they continue from the last game. Final Fantasy would be kinda hard to do that 11 times i admit, but i just like the history of Warcraft, and the fact that they have added you into the storyline.

Oh and yeah Horde and Alliance are at war again, but hey history repeats itself =P

One of my guildies from CB told me those 4 portals in Feralas, Ashenvale, Hinterlands, and Duskwood were actually instance portals to a world event called the emerald dream. :D

I love how in the WoW part of the forums any screenshots immediatly seem to instigate a mud flinging match between WoW and FFXI people.
Honestly all I can say Is that they are both good MMORPG's. A MMORPG should NOT have its entire reputation based off graphics though. Some of the people sound like the idiots that you find in EB all the time buying the crappiest games ever cause they have good graphics... That there is like judging a person solely on looks. Are some of you that shallow? As far as what Hccmike said he is dead on. No matter what MMORPG you play its a waste of time and money really. But its your money and its your time so do what you want with it. Dont be quick to point out faults of any game unless you have invested enough time into a MMORPG to reach end game and do EVERYTHING you can. Only then can you SOMEWHAT compare two games.

lol Every time i say a negitive about WoW i usealy Follow with a question about Strg. or what not Never burn and run.

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Well. Arguements springing from FFXI players are usually taken light heartedly, because they simply don't know WoW. Most WoW players would probably just smile and go "hehe, okay ".

It's just so much better.

Question isnt which is the better game.... the question is "Why do you waste your life on any of them?"

I found that out the hard way.

Well for me, its either go to the bar and waste all my $, watch TV, or play online games to occupy my time. Id just rather game myself

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Dozi - 60 Rogue =

Because we have nothing better than do

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Main: War75/Sam63/Blm71/Rng45
Sub: Nin37/Thf37/Whm37/Mnk30
Three nation: Done Zilart: Done CoP: Done

My parents always complain about how much time i spend playing video games and i just ask them if they rather me go out get a girl pregant or get some drugs ect. they usealy shut up lol.

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lol Tal

This debate between the games is kinda funny to watch. I was tempted to buy WoW at one point in time, but then there is not one single server that I could go to that housed all of the friends that I'd want to play with. Because of that, I didn't feel like choosing a server, and thus I'm not going to play WoW.

Later on, however, I heard a fair share of complaints about the end-game of WoW. People who have left FFXI for WoW have come back, because they say they got bored. This can be attributed to the fact that the game is young, as is the common response to such comments. I am willing to accept that. Another common argument, however, is that WoW's community lacks a lot of the luster that FFXI's has. It is said that people in WoW generally don't like to help with things unless they get something out of it, or are what people in FFXI refer to as "loot whores."

I'll be the first to admit that the whole LFG thing and depending on others to accomplish goals in FFXI can be annoying. But that reliance on teamwork builds a stronger sense of community. You make friends, and you keep them. People are more willing to spend time helping eachother out, because maybe they helped eachother get Sub Job items back when they were level 18, or they remember that nice Japanese fellow who killed their Dragoon quest dragon for them. Hell, maybe they grouped together in a perm party of such during 50-60. Through being required to cooperate and interact with people, you build stronger bonds and ties to the general community.

And when given the choice of a game that is easier to do things in and allows reclusiveness, or a game that forces you to work together to achieve common goals, I'll choose the latter. More annoying? Sure... More rewarding in the end? Definitely.

And I already admitted that I haven't played the game, so don't bother using the cliche' "You didn't play the game, you don't know." response, because I have admitted I haven't played. I am speaking solely from my experiences in FFXI, and the stories told by like 3-4 CKD people who had quit FFXI for WoW, but have returned after the honeymoon period of WoW wore off.

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