HEIL

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You're going to hell

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Three nation: Done Zilart: Done CoP: Done

Wait, they're not all retarded anyway? lololol

See you in Hell.

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[In Yarr we trust.]

As a gay man i'd have to agree with you 100%. This is a problem that the culture struggles with, but most likely will never overcome because of the "We're Queer, we're here, deal with it" faggots. But you make an excellent point.

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I think what Ponuh said pretty much sums up my thoughts...



rofllllllllllllll this was the fucking funniest thing I have read in days. I have never seen one sentence do so much damage to so many groups of people.

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Yeah, I pwn like that lol

Someone put it in a sig at least

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in general psych i learned that mainly it's a lot based off of stuff you have growing up and whatnot that kinda goes with your fetishes. experiences, and whatnot kinda develop what you like and don't like (turn-ons and turn-offs if you will)

anyway, don't wanna throw this into a psychological debate about whether it's genetics/mind setup/childhood so i won't get into details too much.

I think a tendancy to like the same-sex is an urge everyone has. Some happen to have it stronger than others. Everyone is born with it, some supress it better than others, some give into it easier than others.

I disagree.

I agree with Ponuh. I don't know about other people but urges for other guys isn't in me. So I don't think that it's just a matter of suppressing it better than others, just that some people's mothers may have been a little like those described in the article and they're for gay than other people.

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WHAT LOL?

I think you are speaking for yourself there buddy.

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

where the fuck is Severus?

honestly, I waited till this thread got two pages long to see his reaction before I read it....dissapointed

Really though, I personally believe it is a subconcious choice based on a lot of things, including (but not limited to) childhood upbringing. Also I think you can't consciously change your sexuality. This is just my opinion lol, and really comes from the homo friends I have (Hi Galindar)

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ROFL! best post eva!

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

My sig keeps growing

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It is a result of sexual confusion. Most gay men came from a broken home or had a bad relationship with their father. Without a male role model the boy was unable to recognize/secure his masculinity and thus resorted to gayness.

If you have a kid and make him play with dolls and put him in a dress, then chances are he'll become gay. If you raise him the right way, he probably won't. Likewise, if you're a father who acts like a mother or is otherwise inactive as a parent, he'll probably turn gay too. If you treat your wife right and set a good example for the kid, acting like a real man, then again, he probably won't.

I'm not saying this is the only way people turn gay, but it sure as hell isn't a gene that they're born with, it's from experiences - especially when growing up.

I don't agree with that

I don't think it has much to do with the way your parents raise you.

Gay parents don't raise gay children, and straight parents obviously don't always raise straight children

My dad is one of those burly jocks who played football in highschool, and my mom is your typical stay at home take care of the family mother, my parents are still together, and are pretty much the perfect family by most standards

I have 2 brothers, my dad tried to get me into sports, I just wasn't interested. My dad tried to get my other brothers into sports, they were interested. Both my brothers play basketball and football, I hate both those sports. We were all raised the exact same way, but I turned out gay of the 3. Everyone is born with a different personality. Different sexual preferances (( not just gay bi or straight, but as in what a guy would look for in a girt, ect ect. )) And sure some of these are situational, but your sexuality IMO is too deeply rooted into yourself to be effected by just your upringing. Your sexual preference is a part of who you are, like your skin color. White people dont turn black just from hanging out with black people. Gay people won't turn straight from having conservative ideals bashed into their brains. (( and if they do, they are fooling themselves and will have much bigger mental issues to deal with ))

Its smething you are born with. Maybe sometimes it is situational too, but i would think only very rarely.

People's confusion about their sexuality comes from the media and conservative retards who force ideals into younger generation's heads.

Thankfully this is starting to change

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Bi isnt a sexuality, it's just a hobbie.

There's never been a particularly marked point where people "turn" or "get" the gay. If you approach it like a choice or mental disability (which its neither) then you'll scramble to find a cause of the decsion or subconcious descion. But really that's like saying "omg when did that guy's skin decide to start being brown!?" Sexual orientation isn't the same thing as having or developing a fetish either I don't think. So, I've always believed its genetic like the article states.

Oh, Orientation isn't black and white either, I don't think. Its more like on a scale I'd imagine since the right environment or the right amount of liqour could incline some people to have their prostates probed. Also, you'll find guys into stuff like "pegging," but wouldn't think to have some other guy pounding them, so, its not like most guys don't have the desire to their g-spots explored by a loved one.

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If I remember correctly you're hardcore Catholic. You've even condemned some of the people here to Hell, so I'm stretching to see the validity of your arguement considering alot of it is generalization that you took out of nowhere or perhaps got from Jerry Falwell or something. :P

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ponuh.

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Don't click this link.

this is where people are supposed to quiver in their socks, right?

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I'm not Catholic at all, I don't know where you got that idea ever. I've never condemned anyone to hell (seriously at least). You can check my post history if you want, or would that be too common sense or conservative to do?

I just personally believe that experiences play a huge controlling role in molding someone's personality when they grow up. Notice how I disclaimed myself from saying it was entirely the parents' fault, it could be anything else. The same goes for killers/thieves, except there's really no reason for a gay person to hold back (since it's not a crime). I know a lot of people would probably try to argue that they're born that way too though.

I really don't have a problem with gay people, I just think that everything that everyone does is their own choice.

It has nothing to do with religion and your response has nothing to do with validity of anything. Post a link where I say I'm Catholic and condemn anyone to hell.

Or get up on your feet and cheer.

Haaaaa


Haaaaa!

Edit: It appears that this is the first time Festaru has ever posted in the IRL forums. Interesting, I could have sworn it was you. I guess I was wrong. I apologize.

gah my anna nicole pwns your Adrianna lima fest , puahaha

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I <3 Ponuh, my idol

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