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 Post subject: OC'ing my PC
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:14 pm 
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Recently i bought a new pc, and after running into a few problems when i got it i had it stabalized at a lower setting then expected as seen in these pics below:

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After a few months running my machine at these speeds (and without powering it down) i decided to turn it off for the night, once i rebooted it when i got back from work it wouldn't actually boot. One stick of memory went bad (i had it running above 500mhz each, but same config).

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Problem is, ever since i got my new memory (same ram) i can't clock that high anymore, even when i choose not to clock the ram. The bios allows me to unstrap the memory/FSB clocks when i increase the cpu freq. I was using uGuru to overclock and it did a great job, but since i was able to overclock on the fly (when booted into windows) and it didn't have an option to unstrap ram/cpu clocks when cpu freq is multiplied, i think it was still overclocking my ram and causing it to BSOD. I'm running a normally aspirated setup and so i know i can only push it so much, but i reached 3.0ghz at one point (crashed in a 1hr stability test closer to end though), 2.8ghz stable. This is how i'm running it now stable and i'm using nTune to do my overclocking.

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My question is if the problem really lies in memory only, i mean i think so because it's the only thing that got changed since that setup, i deff get a BSOD because of memory, but when i dont it just hangs and it usually hangs when i go over 2.8; i don't know how many of you mess with this stuff but let me know if any of you have any experience with this stuff, maybe i'm overlooking something ya know.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:05 pm 
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your best bet is to post a topic on http://www.Xtremesystems.org
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anything ever done with and to a computer, they have done it. these are the people who set the world records for like first million digits of pi in less then 9seconds and stuff. you cant get a better answer for pcs if you were to ask bill gates himself :P not like he does anything computer related anywayz.

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Update:

I flashed my bios today to the latest version and wow, i got so many OC'ing options and results that i can't wait to get my new cpu.

New 3dMark06 Bench @ 3.14Ghz - 1 of 3
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New 3dMark06 Bench @ 3.14Ghz - 2 of 3
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New 3dMark06 Bench @ 3.14Ghz - 3 of 3
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New CPU-Z Results @ 3.14Ghz - 1 of 1
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As of now i have default BIOS OC clocks, i was able to OC through uGuru to 3.5Ghz without touching voltage (unstable & froze 1/2 way through OCCT), so i should be able to OC that high and keep it stable once i up the voltage.

CPU temps range are from 34C - 36C under 100% load @ 3.14Ghz.

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http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho ... 025&page=4

halfway down the page, a post by coolaler

in a nut shell, when the new DFI board came out last year coolaler (best OC'er ever) got it at his company and pushed it to the limit. he took 2x512mb of ram and pushed them over 1506mhz at 4.0-3-2-1 2.65volts and had dual core 2.66 ghz up to 3.66ghz only 350FSB.

the entire thread wanted him to do a FSB test and they all doubted the boards ability to hit above 533, the setting on the mobo. there is a pic halway down the page of what he OC'd it to. if you cant find it, it 600mhz, well above OC range for many motherboards.

then someone made an awesome and well deserved quote:
"Never challenge Coolaler into a benching contest"

hes a PC OC'er in taiwan who gets hardware before its released and currently holds alot of world records in OC'ing. such as first million digits of pie calculated in under 10sec

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:56 am 
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like your 3dmark scores are 11,819, the guys at Xtreme are pushing 71,021

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Step 1. Take that Abit board back and get an ASUS board.

Step 2. Enjoy the increased reconfigurability and higher 3DMark scores. :P

Also, what memory are you using? It looks like your timings are a little loose.. Nice OC though - What was your budget with that machine and how are you liking the C2D?


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ASUS makes sweet MBs. I have a P5k3 deluxe but I still need to OC my rig. It's my first PC I built so I still have some more learning to do on that. :/

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if you want a board that will make even asus sweat, get a DFI :P

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I'm anti-Asus and anti-DFI i've bought 2 boards from asus previously and had problems, i built systems with DFI and had problems as well. I always liked Abit and i know for a fact this is one of the best SLI boards out in the market. Reason i haven't OC'ed mine like crazy is because i just haven't had the time and when i did, i got lazy and half ass'ed it. I took about 2 hr's to flash bios and OC this yesterday, i didn't put much time into it at all, when i do better research i'm sure i'll be able to get more juice. All i really wanted to do was get ready for the new CPU i bought, and i just got it today.

I'm running Corsairs Dominators TWIN2X2048-6400C4D @ 4-4-4-12 T2 850Mhz OC'ed. I spent about $1400 maybe a bit more earlier this year, i like the C2D but i'm waiting for more software support to buy the Quad.

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I'm anti-Asus and anti-DFI i've bought 2 boards from asus previously and had problems,


If you're constantly overclocking your systems why are you surprised when they have problems?


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They have problems which aren't related to OC'ing, problems that will effect OC efficiensy, driver & bios problems and last but not least; support problems. I haven't owned one in a year+ and i understand that in the market of electronic equipment encountering "Lemons" happens often but i just had bad experiences with their products so i stay away from them.

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the DFI Infinity 975x did ultimately have problems when it came out with efficency, but it has been fixed and its one of the fastest boards you can buy granted you have the power, processor and cooling system to do so <3
such as your CPU is running at 350mhz with a x9 multiplier. under uber OC conditions, the DFI 975 can run at 600mhz times that by 9 and you got an insane OC

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I used to be die-hard Abit until the AN8 which was produced about the time they went bankrupt.. I hate them now. I have to agree that ASUS has shitty support but Abit's online thing (Don't remember the name) is pretty nice.

The A7N8X deluxe is what sold me on ASUS but I liked the NF7-s more so I switched but never again! I've never used DFI but the stupid graphics on the boxes always deterred me from them. lol

Anyway, looks great especially for the price but I think the non-XMS2 Dominator ram would have made you a little happier with your OC.


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That's understandable and like i said it's been over a year. I never oc'ed DFI's because those were purchased for other people but i had to RMA 3 of them because of bad voltage controllers (overheating VCM's too)

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A little update: After Installing everything and doing some quick testing and benchmarking i'm quite happy with everything!

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Not too shabby since i haven't done any uGuru tweaking, this is my first attempt to OC with new cpu.

What do you think Matti & others?

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I wish I knew as much about cars and computers as Matti does. Can you teach me?

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OK Ive got my new MB, and im ready to over clock. Whos ready to point me in the direction of a good guide?

lol I use to OC before, I basically know what Im doing. I just want a refresher course.

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All in the bios yarr, upping the bus speed is where it's at. Don't touch voltage if you dont want to ruin your CPU, and get ready to clear CMOS frequently.

http://www.tutorialsfind.com/tutorials/ ... cking.html

Knock yourself out!

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I love you Kioto, one day you wil have my babies.

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Some of them are a little outdated but you'll get the picture, it's not hard, just sometimes annoying. If you have specific questions post it here and we'll help you =]

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Yeah Im remembering everything now. Ive been overclocking since I bought my first Celeron 300A lol. I got that bitch up to like 466 i think.

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Id like to try and get my CPU to 3ghz. Think I can get that with out having to change the voltages?

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I think you can get it to 2.8ghz safe, but 3.0ghz might need a little more juice. Try 2.6Ghz first, bench it and make sure it's stable (just to make sure) OCCT does a great job in fully (and i mean fully as in testing 100% CPU load) testing stability of OC's.
If it's stable @ 2.6 move up to 2.8... (that is if you don't encounter issues)

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The OCCT site looks strange but they're straight, if you want an alternative though, try orthos.

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