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Time Reversal Theory.
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Author:  arlania [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Time Reversal Theory.
My theory, and its MY THEORY, is that at negative degrees in Kelvin it would be possible to reverse either time or aging. Think about it

If at 0 degrees Kelvin time stops( i.e. All celluar activity stops. And we measure time around people living people dieing and such events. Everything that lives and expires). Correct? So we can very well conclude that during posivite degrees of Kelvin, which we are living in at the moment, time moves forward and our bodies age and we die.

Now since negative degree's Kelvin would be the stark opposite of the positive spectrum, (based off the simple fact that higher you go hotter it is, lower you go colder it gets. They are 2 sides of the chart so therefore polar opposites.), it would be safe to say that at negative Kelvin time moves backwards.. If it were possible to get into this spectrum we could reverse the ageing process. Incase people and flash freeze them causeing their cells to reverse.

Altough it was a few holes in it, Main one being that its theoretically impossible to obtain 0 degrees Kelvin, I think its plausible and could work.

Any ideas?
Author:  Yarr [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:22 pm ]
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There is nothing past zero in Kelvin. If it the atoms were to start moving again (regardless of what direction) it would be a measurement. That measurement would mean a positive reading. Im almost sure you cant get past absolute zero.

then again this is just a theory haha, so yeah start writing the hollywood screen play.
Author:  Parade [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:57 pm ]
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i wish i knew what you were talkin about.
Author:  Mikey [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:09 pm ]
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My penis sometimes gets hot flashes, Can you explain that ?
Author:  Sukemasa [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:14 pm ]
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Hmm thats is an interesting theory, however if measurment of anything reaches 0, it in turn doesnt exsiste, or stops completly in the case of kalvins. If 0 was ever reached it would be even more impossible for it to go into the negatives. its like saying something is -10cm long. it just cant happen. I agree with yarr that whenever a measurment reaches its point of orgin, and it starts to increase in the opposite direction; then it is acctually increasing in number, just in a diffrent direction. But still it does sound interesting about a -degree in kalvin i think ill talk about it with my physics and chemistry teachers and see their opinons too
Author:  arlania [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:48 pm ]
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"There is nothing past zero in Kelvin. If it the atoms were to start moving again (regardless of what direction) it would be a measurement. That measurement would mean a positive reading. Im almost sure you cant get past absolute zero."

I dont think its even possible to reach 0 Kelvin lol. I can see what you are saying about it still being a reading on a measurement scale, but if it were to move backwards it would be positive kinda but in a negative sense lol. It would be like walking down the street then turning around and walking back. Your moving and gaining distance but your retracing those steps so you in theory didnt really get anywhere. If you cant tell im really bored.

Think of it maybe as if at negative Kelvin (if such a thing even exists) perhaps free radicals would revert back and mitochondria deterioration would heal itself, that way slowing and/or reverting the age process.

Its kinda like when you think of how big the universe actually is. My theory on that is that the universe is infinite because it doubles back on itself making a sort of circle or elipse.

"My penis sometimes gets hot flashes, Can you explain that ?"

Stop looking at porn. That should help.
Author:  Yarr [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:51 pm ]
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-273º Celsius is abosolute zero i think. And yeah its only a theory.
Author:  Parade [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:55 pm ]
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wait, so its saying if it gets so cold, time will stop? what BULLSHIT!
Author:  Aleks [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:10 pm ]
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lol the type of "Cold" is probably something to do with a greater scinece ike lol.
Author:  Parade [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:16 pm ]
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your new sig is gay, but i cant stop staring at it, who made it for you?
Author:  Sefier [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:21 pm ]
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Hmmm.pretty interesting arlania...ill have to ask my physics teacher about..do you mind?
Author:  Ponuh [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:22 pm ]
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This seems like having "negative sides" to a rectangle.

Just...simply impossible.
Author:  Aleks [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:28 pm ]
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noone made it for me... I stole it from killingifrit. Just until the new rawkin one comes. ^^
Author:  Parade [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:41 pm ]
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^^ i got 3 done today, 2 more then yours comes
Author:  Hobo [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Time Reversal Theory.
Logically, your theory is valid.

When speculating about an event that can never occur, you can assume anything is possible.

But why stop with just time travel? Something at negative degrees Kelvin can produce abundant free energy and cure cancer! The possibilties are endless!
Author:  arlania [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:44 pm ]
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"Hmmm.pretty interesting arlania...ill have to ask my physics teacher about..do you mind?"

Not at all!!! I want to know more thoughts on this! I never got to take chem or physics ; ;


Hobo. I dont know if you were mocking me but yes actually this would cure cancer in the sense it would send you back before cancer struck you. You would always have the genes for cancer but they would never manifest. And no this wouldnt make energy.
Author:  Kioto [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:55 pm ]
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Absolute Zero is estimated to be at -273.16°C/-459.7°F.

And whenever this theory becomes true, we would probably have fogured out how to travel in lighspeed, which is one of those impossible things as well, but lets stick to the subject.

Keep in mind that liquid nitrogen boils @ -195.79°C & liquid helium boils @ -268.95.

-273º C is the coldest possible temperature that any substance can exist at, with that in mind at that temperature the atom has no 'heat energy' meaning the atom is in a complete stop of movement.

"It is not possible to populate the high energy level more by adding heat to a body. Thus for usual systems the logarithm is negative and temperature is positive"

So this comes into play:
"If heat is added, more and more particles change from the low energy level to the high energy level (note that the levels themselves are unchanged); the number of particle with high energy, N(hi), grows and N(lo) decreases so the logarithm becomes less negative and temperature rises. The energy of the whole ensemble rises because now there are more particles on the high energy level. "

Suppose
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C a constant (at a given temperature)
N(i) the number of particles with energy E(i)
E(i) is the energy portion, according to our simplifying assumption it is either nought or it is something
k the Boltzmann constant
T absolute temperature

Then
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After -273º Celsius our molecules would actually start to heat up, therefore temperature would go up. But it would be so unstable that any .0001 change to temeprature would dramatically change the outcome of heat/cool in our body.
Author:  Kioto [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:02 pm ]
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Though if you want to achieve time travel, you are better off with this:
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/timetravel-01a.htm


btw, Hi Arl, nice to see you around here.
Author:  Macabre [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:19 pm ]
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From what my chem/physics teacher in college has told me absolute zero has never been reached ever. Scientist have came very close to almost .00001 degrees to it. From my knowledge absolulte zero is not ever possible to reach bc of the unstability that would happen w/ the atoms.
Author:  arlania [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:22 pm ]
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So -273 C is like the bottom of the spectrum is what your saying? In other words you have no where to go but up. But there are always other directions! Just cause we havnt found a way doesnt mean we cant fine one :wink: .

I understand what your saying about, even at negative Kelvin movement would occur thus making it positive due to friction and the resulting heat. Buuuuuuuuuut we have never expierenced 0 Kelvin.

Wait a second... I agree on the movement resulting in positive but would it be the same positive? Or would we be traveling up the other side? A side that we just came down. Wish I could try to draw what im thinking in my head. Basically its like a huge U with the lowest point being 0 Kelvin say we are at this moment on the upper left. When we reach 0 Kelvin and begin to ascend again due to friction who is to say we return up the left hand side?
Author:  Kioto [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:27 pm ]
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and also, with absolute zero, it is absolutely no kinetic energy, hence no thermal motion, hence, even the electrons stop orbitting the nucleus, now why do electrons orbit the nucleus in the first place? because they are attracted to the protons, opposites attract, and protons and electrons have opposite charges, hence the attraction, but if you are to make the electron stop its orbit, it would be directly attracted to the nucleus, and it would smash into the protons, destroying the quark arrangement, turning the atom into basic matter. So like, ur a pile of, shit, kinda.
Author:  Parade [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:28 pm ]
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could somebody please send me a PM about this stuff? im reading your guys replies, but i dont get it, please send me a PM telling me wth this all is.
Author:  Kioto [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:45 pm ]
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Arl, its not pissible. Things get way too unstable, as a fraction of heat/cold added after Abs. 0 would dramatically change the outcome of how the molecules/atoms would react.

And leaving it in Abs. 0, your kinda just stuck there. Plus, even IF this could be achieved, it wouldnt, because whatever is making 'whatever' be Abs. 0, would just stop functioning and would obay the law, as the atoms itself on the mechanism would stop.
Author:  Parade [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:48 pm ]
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its not possible, and even if it was, its never going to happen in our life time. you should be worrying about the global warming crap, the earth is gona get hotter before its gona get colder.
Author:  arlania [ Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:48 pm ]
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Would that happen Kioto if you reached 0 Kelvin for less then a nanosecond? Would that give it enough time to throw it all out of gear?

I think the total shock that your body would take from my theory at this point would kill you, before even reaching the point of cell ceasation, but then again its a theory and needs some work still. :oops:

If you could somehow.. flash freeze in the timespan of less then a nanosecond...hmmm...still the problem of the electrons...but how much time would they need before you just went... ummm.. *poof* lol.

Actually at 0 Kelvin everything stops. So you actually stop being. You wouldnt be confined to certain laws persay because well.... they dont exist anymore. Your electrons and protons dont exist at that point, nothing does, if you could somehow come back from that state...WOW. that would be awesome. Think of the things you might see, you wouldnt exist but yet you would.

Yeah im going to go insane trying to think about this now. :(
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