Yarr The Pirate! :: View topic - Microsoft Windows Vista

For starters i'd like to mention that at 2003 PDC, MAC OSX was strongly
influenced in the technology promised by microsoft, and knowing that
Tiger would come out sooner, they rushed ahead and implemented
some of these things into Tiger. I'm not saying microsoft "invented" any
of these features, but MS did legitimize it before Tiger's announcements.

Lets talk about some new "looks" of both systems.
I do have alot of respect for MAC's GUI looks, and for its incredible
way to handle graphics, for a little over 4 years microsoft has been a
sucker on the eye candy section of its OS's. But as you can see MS
is starting to pull some cards out of their sleeves. Tiger now uses
128 x 128pixel Icons which is very nice. Vista will use at least 256 x 256
pixel icon sizes, but its now the feature we are looking for, what i look for
is the so promised true resolution-independent vector graphics which
is a complete advantage over Tiger. The window transactions such as
animations will be very alike in Vista as is in Tiger, but this was already
mentioned is 2003 before Tiger, so think what you want Very Happy

Desktop search and Spotlight will be very alike but yet with some
remarkable difference. Desktop search will have more filters and more
ways to find you're files by taste. Yes, smart folders will be called
virtual folders in Vista, both are the same exact thing.
Most of you don't realize that Desktop search was first annouced
by Microsoft in October 2003, then the release race began amongst
companies such as Yahoo, Google and Apple. They all released a
desktop search utility for free, except Apple. These companies wouldnt
have announced this release if MS didn't reveal it as a standard feature
in the next-gen OS release.

Author:	Kioto [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:57 pm ]
Post subject:	Microsoft Windows Vista
aka Code Name, LongHorn. I can't wait for this. Some screenshots make me so anxious. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Longhorn Screenies:

Author:	Ponuh [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:01 pm ]
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As long as it lives up to its underlying promise to mimic OSX then i'll be happy. ^ \| \| \| Prease.

Author:	Kioto [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:04 pm ]
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Poor Mac's... Maybe one day they'll be good. They did take the first step though, the whole one button mouse was really a drag. But hey, at least they have good MP3 players...

Author:	Ponuh [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:18 pm ]
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I'm excited for vista. I use PC for many things. However, as I understand it's not going to be ready for a LONG time. edit: site works now and I saw the release candidate date

Author:	Computer [ Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:47 pm ]
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we changed the icons now give us $300

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Author:	arlania [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:52 am ]
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I read somewhere that this is supposed to absolutely suck your resources dry unless you have a computer from the jetsons

Author:	Yarr [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:56 am ]
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Kioto wrote: Poor Mac's... Maybe one day they'll be good. They did take the first step though, the whole one button mouse was really a drag. But hey, at least they have good MP3 players... Macs going to X86 processors over the current RISC setup is amazing. I mean seriously, when the new Intel Macs hit the market things are going to get really crazy. Think about a Mac that has no limitation on software. You could go pick up anything you wanted and play it on mac. I mean its a great concept, I am eager to see how it pans out.

Author:	Ketrebu [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:03 am ]
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With C++ compilers, moving Mac systems from RISC to Intel shouldn't really make that much of a difference. All that means is that software will be (somewhat) easier to port. There's still the OS barrier which is what causes the majority of problems with software ports. The compiler you use will take care of the processor directives for you, what you need to care about is the fact a Mac will not have a C:\Windows folder. Any calls you make to DLLs that are supplied with Windows you would need to rewrite, either find something on a Mac that can do it and adapt the code, or write the function yourself. Especially the fact that a Mac will probably never have native DirectX support will make the majority of games unportable without rewriting a lot of it. On the other hand, having native Intel support will make any "Windows Emulator" incredibly easy to pull off and very very fast. Since programs will not need to be emulated, nor "recompiled" when they are run. But anyway, on topic, Longhorn needs to hurry up, i'm bored with XP. :P

Author:	Pirato [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:41 am ]
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It looks pretty but I still hate the name Vista.

Author:	Shuichi [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:10 am ]
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That does look nice. Macs are cool, but FFXI is for Win PC onry!

Author:	Kioto [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:52 am ]
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Okay, let me start by replaying to Lani and saying that it without a reason a newer operating system will require more technology out of you're computer. Think of it like this, you have a 1950 Mustang which is beat up, and its motor is about to die, and all you do is get a new paint job for it; it doesnt work, you need to change just about everything to make that mustang a good car again. Software has to keep up with hardware, and as we all know, hardware technology is updated daily. Now let me say a few things about Vista and OSX. For starters i'd like to mention that at 2003 PDC, MAC OSX was strongly influenced in the technology promised by microsoft, and knowing that Tiger would come out sooner, they rushed ahead and implemented some of these things into Tiger. I'm not saying microsoft "invented" any of these features, but MS did legitimize it before Tiger's announcements. Lets talk about some new "looks" of both systems. I do have alot of respect for MAC's GUI looks, and for its incredible way to handle graphics, for a little over 4 years microsoft has been a sucker on the eye candy section of its OS's. But as you can see MS is starting to pull some cards out of their sleeves. Tiger now uses 128 x 128pixel Icons which is very nice. Vista will use at least 256 x 256 pixel icon sizes, but its now the feature we are looking for, what i look for is the so promised true resolution-independent vector graphics which is a complete advantage over Tiger. The window transactions such as animations will be very alike in Vista as is in Tiger, but this was already mentioned is 2003 before Tiger, so think what you want :D Desktop search and Spotlight will be very alike but yet with some remarkable difference. Desktop search will have more filters and more ways to find you're files by taste. Yes, smart folders will be called virtual folders in Vista, both are the same exact thing. Most of you don't realize that Desktop search was first annouced by Microsoft in October 2003, then the release race began amongst companies such as Yahoo, Google and Apple. They all released a desktop search utility for free, except Apple. These companies wouldnt have announced this release if MS didn't reveal it as a standard feature in the next-gen OS release. Another very rewarding implement is the Meta search which is far beyond Tiger's search utility and spotlight put together. You'll be able to specify rating, keyword, time of creation for a fine tune search. You'll be able to edit any file's META tag to you're taste for a more rewarding search. Folder & File previews are going to be much more inhanced then XP's and Tiger's put together. Live Icon's will demonstrate the folder's padding with whatever is inside, kinda like WinXP, but much larger and much more costumizable, dynamical change to display of underlaying data. Since 1998 windows has had a feature which will let you do this, and Apple still leaves this feature off by default. "Stacks" will be a unseen organization touch, it will visually group documents by criteria, may it be author, size, type which will let you create collections of otherwise unrelated documents and data files manually. Outscripting Tiger, Apple has already started "borrowing" Vista's features for their Leopard, Apples upcomming OSX release. If MS keeps up with the WinFS promises, this will be such a great feature for Vista's file system, and i wont get into it because i dont have all needed information to talk about. But do a little research, eye candy! There's so much more to talk about, but work duty calls. Discuss.

Author:	Kioto [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:06 am ]
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I'm writting this as i go through my day, so bare with me :D Somethings to looke foward: - Full implementation of MSH - Peer-to-Peer's Castle Home network set-up. - Complete implementation of IPv6 - Folder name changes; "My" from 'My Documents, My Computer' will be dropped. "Documents and Settings" will be changed to 'Users'. - Full support for the NX feature in new Processors. - The new XPS - Brand new Shell. Too many features to list here. - HDTV support and DVD Burning. - Explorer 7 - Office 12 - x64 & x86 architectures support via a single installation.

Author:	Kioto [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:36 am ]
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Although Vista is still under heavy development, and still in its early Beta stages, i see a substantial differene in various features. The GUI seems fairly compatible with Tiger's and Leopard's. Here's a video nip of Vista's window behaviour.

Author:	Ponuh [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:04 pm ]
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Kioto saying in any way that Apple stole anything from microsoft or implying they borrowed ideas is pretty bogus. Microsoft steals anything and everything they think will be useful from apple, plain and simple. I wouldn't be suprised, in fact i'm fairly certain that MS has plants in apple jacking ideas I.E SPOTLIGHT. It's a conspiracy, maaaan! Anyways, about spotlight. Rumor has it that Longhorn is fucked up and that the very core of the OS can't implement their photocopy of spotlight as well as Apple can. Apple definately didn't copy MS' ideas from the 2003 conference, I can garuntee that. It's just common knowledge that MS "dips their fingers in other's pots". They've never been about innovation. They've been about $ by the easiest, cheapest means possible. Thus, whenever steve jobs reveals a new feature, his line is "microsoft, start your photocopiers"

Author:	Sangsogin [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:19 am ]
Post subject:	MUAHHAHA
ROAD KILL FOR FUEL BITCHESS.. TASTE MY CHEESE IN A CAN MEOWTHH!! I USE DOS BITCHES TOP THAT!!

Author:	Arim [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:30 am ]
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so whats makes this program, if at all any better than windows xp or tiger os or w/e there is. just how its displayed?

Author:	Ilm [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:21 am ]
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Fucking capitalist scum.

Author:	Kioto [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:46 pm ]
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Ilm wrote: Fucking capitalist scum.

Author:	Kioto [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:07 pm ]
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Take a good read at my post again. You might have missed a couple spots. And yes, Stacks is a brand new idea that was mentioned back in 2004. Apple will use that technology is Leopard, you're trying to tell me that apple already had the "stacks" feature? Get over yourself.

Author:	Ponuh [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:09 pm ]
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Kioto wrote: Take a good read at my post again. You might have missed a couple spots. read it, haha. skipped over the stuff directed clearly to lani and read Quote: For starters i'd like to mention that at 2003 PDC, MAC OSX was strongly influenced in the technology promised by microsoft, and knowing that Tiger would come out sooner, they rushed ahead and implemented some of these things into Tiger. I'm not saying microsoft "invented" any of these features, but MS did legitimize it before Tiger's announcements. Lets talk about some new "looks" of both systems. I do have alot of respect for MAC's GUI looks, and for its incredible way to handle graphics, for a little over 4 years microsoft has been a sucker on the eye candy section of its OS's. But as you can see MS is starting to pull some cards out of their sleeves. Tiger now uses 128 x 128pixel Icons which is very nice. Vista will use at least 256 x 256 pixel icon sizes, but its now the feature we are looking for, what i look for is the so promised true resolution-independent vector graphics which is a complete advantage over Tiger. The window transactions such as animations will be very alike in Vista as is in Tiger, but this was already mentioned is 2003 before Tiger, so think what you want Very Happy Desktop search and Spotlight will be very alike but yet with some remarkable difference. Desktop search will have more filters and more ways to find you're files by taste. Yes, smart folders will be called virtual folders in Vista, both are the same exact thing. Most of you don't realize that Desktop search was first annouced by Microsoft in October 2003, then the release race began amongst companies such as Yahoo, Google and Apple. They all released a desktop search utility for free, except Apple. These companies wouldnt have announced this release if MS didn't reveal it as a standard feature in the next-gen OS release. which is what i made my post off of. unless you change your opinion somewhere else, i don't know. bleh. bye heh

Author:	Kioto [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:11 pm ]
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Quote: I'm not saying microsoft "invented" any of these features, but MS did legitimize it before Tiger's announcements. Need i repeat myself?

Author:	Ponuh [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:12 pm ]
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Kioto wrote: Quote: I'm not saying microsoft "invented" any of these features, but MS did legitimize it before Tiger's announcements. Need i repeat myself? Ok? So what the hell are you saying before then? why not say anything then?

Author:	Kioto [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:13 pm ]
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Its on my post there Ponuh, just read.

Author:	Kioto [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:28 am ]
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Sang, can i borrow your cat?

Author:	Kioto [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:06 am ]
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That and just about everything else. Technology, security, compatibility, management. These are the core reasons that have many many sub reasons which is end-user defined. In other words, every single person has its personal gain from new software. That you may have to look for yourself to find. I personally look foward for most of these new featues, but i'll highlight my most wanted. New Network solutions, New looks & feels, New ways of file organization, New file system and Sorage solutions (WinFS)

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