Hey Gang,

Okay, the site's coming along pretty good. Current things I need to work on are:

* Non-Gay Color Scheme
* Calendar Functionality For Scheduling Events / Sign-Up Sheets
* New Banner

http://rosehusky.com/newsite/index.php

Just wanted to keep you all in the loop. We need to decide how we want to handle user names on the site. Should we do first name only, or should we be adding our second names? I think first name only would be sufficient, since the last thing the linkshell needs would be 13 Yarrs in it.

If you have any suggestions for the the banner and such, let me know.

Comments/suggestions/fears? Also let me know!

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what happens if, somewhere down the road, we meet and invite another "Whisp" for example? we'd need a last name in that case.

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RIP Shiloh - I'll never forget ya

Well, there's nothing in the code that would prevent us from having both a, "Whisp" and "Whisp Clone" in the database. But I'm honestly too lazy to want to have to type out, "Ridere Tirose" by default in the login screen. haha

Just up to you guys if you think it'd be aesthetically annoying to have a two-name account stick out in the middle of a list of one-name accounts. :p

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I'm a fan of the ffxiv colors to be honest.

background color #f2f1ee
orange color #f5800e
text color #666666 or #333333

But, why the heck are you coding in tables? The only reasons I ever touch tables are for text fields and contact forms. Why not use divs for everything man? it's so much easier to read/write/style. I mean, do what you want, but I'd hate to see the site be considered 'outdated' by your markup before it's even done. Tables are just so.... 90's, not to mention dirty. If you want, i can work with you to get the site running with valid html5, that would be fancy.

Also, just a personal opinion... whenever I use text, I always try and give it 10-15 pixel padding to the left and to the right so that the text isn't hugging the side of the div your putting it in. And depending on what font you decide to go with (for the love of god don't use arial or comic sans, helvetica & helvetica neue ftw) 11px-12px with a 16px line height should be good.

For future reference, you should check out 960.gs, it's basically a grid system that makes it super easy to design/code a good looking website with divs & the 960.css

One last note, I noticed in the news feed you placed <p> tags in between your paragraphs instead of around them.



I'm not sure if this was done on purpose, but just to make it valid, I'd do something like this.



I'm not trying to hound on you dude, I only want to help.

Parade,

Thanks for the input.

In regards to the paragraph and break tags in the news, That is populated strictly from text entered by Admins on the site. As I'm sure you're aware, if you take a text area that allows multi-lines, and let people type to their heart's content, if you were to take directly what they typed and spit it out in HTML, the ASCII 10/13 chars would be stripped, causing it to all be one big paragraph of text.

The code simply takes the entered text and swaps out CrLf with breaks and paragraph tags in order to maintain the breaks in the proper location.

Hopefully that's passable for you, it's certainly passable to W3C. :P

I'll look into the colors and fonts, since I don't care much about that. I won't be setting a padding of 10-15 pixels for content, however, as that's entirely too much wasted space. Perhaps I'll go more than the current 3-5px I'm doing, but I won't go up to 10-15.

Feel free to mock up a version of the default page using divs only, if you like, and if it's not too much trouble, I can convert it over.

I like tables. I don't like absolute positioning on divs, as it makes highlighting content on pages look majorly sketch. At least from some of the examples I've seen.

Not everything needs to be the latest and greatest. sometimes the old workhorses do the trick. The page is xhtml compliant, with maybe a minor error here and there from a random tag I may miss. I'm not too terribly concerned with it.

I never need to preface people to not load my sites in certain browsers, because they're not compatable haha... But again, thanks for the input. And if you make a div only version that works, that's totally fine with me.

Just remember, this is a cheesy guild website, and not something anyone is paying anyone for, however, so let's not go overboard in trying to dress it up too much.

Besides, there's a shitload of back-end content that's being developed, like a full-blown event scheduling app integrated into the calendar and such. I've been writing up library files to handle it and focusing on content and features more than presentation.

That's probably the programmer in me. You and I come from two different schools. C/C++ vs Actionscript. PC vs Mac, etc, etc... So we most likely will not see eye to eye on this one, I'm afraid.

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I would be interested to work on the site with you if you want, perhaps I could learn something valuable. Unless of course you'd rather not bother. I haven't dealt with a lot of back end stuff other than wordpress so It would be cool to see how other stuff works. From looking at what you have coded so far, I don't see anything that would need to be absolutely positioned with divs. Using floats would be sufficient.

I mean, just because your a PC and I'm a Mac doesn't mean we can't work together. You can focus on the content and features, and I'll work on the presentation :D. I just think it would be a neat thing to be apart of, I feel like we could create an xiv community that both functions and looks good.

I didn't mean to come off like a douche, I think what you're doing for the forum is great.

I admire you for your do-it-yourself approach to handle content delivery, but that is a lot of work you're getting yourself in to, haha.

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Don't click this link.

i dont know any of this kinda stuff so i can just be a cheerleader so
/cheer

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I'm a big nerd! haha. I like working on stuff like this. I try to give myself a coding project every now and then. Just so I don't forget stuff. Not that PHP really counts much as a real programming language. But still! hehe

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My 2 cents:



Change CrLf to <br /> instead. You shouldn't need to worry about any paragraph tags and it'll match every carriage return from a multi-line text box correctly.

Thanks, Ket! I don't know why. But for some reason, I could have sworn that back to back br tags didn't work. Hence my mixing them in with open and closed paragraph tags. Maybe it was from back in the day before I added the closing slash to the tag itself. Who knows.

Either way, I can make that change, though it the grand scheme of things, it doesn't affect the display, any. Just a tad ghetto. hehe

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are we going to use the new site or stick with this one?

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Forums were always going to be used. The site was mainly just a driver for allowing custom code for things, like events.

The general response has been one of apathy, and since it is a volunteer project, I'm not going to do any more work until people actually start caring, if they ever do. Haha

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Things may change once the game starts up. It would be nice to actually have a real site to go to in addition to forums.

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