Wow thanks for all your guys responses I am sad that I won't be with you guys when the game goes live today but I will be with you guys later.
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| Author: | Cruxis [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Good "Sub-Moves" for classes? |
I was wondering (Since I can't play the beta) what "sub-class moves" do you guys use? like what works good with Archer? Lancer? Marauder? I would think that Archer is good with the Marauder move Bloodbath for HP and are there any penalty for having such moves? |
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| Author: | Dmitry [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:11 am ] |
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I don't think they're quite as powerful as when they're used with the main class. I know there's a few like second wind from Pugilist that's nice to restore your health. I think another class gets something similar but I can't remember it at the moment. |
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| Author: | Ultimatewarrior [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:40 am ] |
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My Marauder will start with: Cure Conjurer R4 Second Wind Pugalist R6 Ferocity Lancer R4 Bloodbath Marauder R6 |
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| Author: | Whisp [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:23 am ] |
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As marauder main, Bloodbath typically gives back 190-240 HP As some other main, Bloodbath from subskills gives back 80-130 HP These are estimates. In addition to what Ult said, these subskills are useful for certain builds Provoke (Gladiator level 10) Defender (Marauder level 10) Slow (Thaum level 8) |
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| Author: | Whisp [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:25 am ] |
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Ket you may be interested in this subskill: Warmonger (aka Provokega) Marauder level 30 Put on a threatening display, increasing enmity generation and drawing the attacks of the target and nearby enemies. |
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| Author: | Ketrebu [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:27 am ] |
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Jeez level 30 is quite high up the chain. I was thinking of doing to 10 for Defender but oh well. |
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| Author: | Ridere [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:52 am ] |
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Ketrebu wrote: Jeez level 30 is quite high up the chain. I was thinking of doing to 10 for Defender but oh well.
Well... I think we're going to have more than enough time to work on other classes, so you could probably get it eventually, Ket. |
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| Author: | Whisp [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:05 pm ] |
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even if it takes a while, it would be awesome to have a gladiator with aoe provoke. perhaps i'll get to 30 marauder first and let you know if the skill is worthwhile. |
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| Author: | Whisp [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:15 pm ] |
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ket, possibly another reason to get Marauder to 30 Intimidation Marauder level 30 Increases the enmity generated by your actions by 10. |
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| Author: | Ketrebu [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:08 pm ] |
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Wonder how much 10 Enmity actually is. Since they fixed enmity halfway through beta, once a gladiator provokes a target they can usually hold on to it for the entire rest of the fight with a couple more vokes. I was the highest melee in the group though so it'll probably end up like FFXI's paladin later on, where anything not as strong as a HNM is impossible to hold hate on because of how much damage people do. |
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| Author: | Whisp [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:40 pm ] |
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well instead of 1 provoke like in ff11, now you get several from gladiator, pugilist, marauder. i don't know how good they all are, but at best you could be a constant provoke machine. |
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| Author: | Ketrebu [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:00 pm ] |
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Provoke uses half a stamina bar though. Unless some mage gets Haste or something later, using that much stamina just on provokes isn't a good idea. Gladiator gets a lot of defense and stuff but you need the stamina bar to use on abilities like Guard, Obsess, Rampart, Aegis Boon or you're almost as squishy as a mage. It would be nice if you got a longer stamina bar as you levelled up, like every 10 levels or something, so you could store more. |
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| Author: | Kioto [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:13 pm ] |
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I think there are a couple of skills that increases stamina gain, maybe that will help too? |
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| Author: | zuldane [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:29 pm ] |
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Ketrebu wrote: It would be nice if you got a longer stamina bar as you levelled up, like every 10 levels or something, so you could store more.
I was thinking the same thing this morning. Maybe this game's version of artifact armor will include something like this |
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| Author: | Ridere [ Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:34 pm ] |
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Thaumaturge at 20, I think, gets an MP Siphon move, and as far as I can tell, all monsters have MP to drain. So it's actually a pretty good move. |
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| Author: | Cruxis [ Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:15 am ] |
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Wow thanks for all your guys responses I am sad that I won't be with you guys when the game goes live today but I will be with you guys later.
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