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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:10 am 
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theres a massive language and cultural wall in the way of that.

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Thats true, however there are some bilingual ppl on the server who could serve as real translators maybe, just throwing out ideas............

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Sorry Yarr, i'm not trynna make CKD look bad in the JP eyes. Probably not my place to say anything anyway. But i agree with Salvatore. We are old enough, and wise enough to work out comprimises no matter what obsticles are in the way, that's history of the world, and probably will continue to take place. I just think it should be a better way for you all to be able to fight HNMs more than you get to presently. It's just not right to "hog" or be selfish with anything that is made for the masses.....


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It woulnt work guys. The fault lies with square to start. The second problem after that is people just being greedy.

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Well i say we storm SE, tie up everyone, and slap them with wet fish until they make the changes, cause that's just not fair.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:46 pm 
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Kinda late on reading this post but yeah that would never work. Sooner or later one person would screw up, and there are so many HNM linkshells, we'd have a huge communication issue, even if it was just the NA HNM linkshells only. Theres 4 of 5 NA HNM LS that I know on this server, and even that many people, it's hard to get information straight. For competition between NA LS in the future it might be a good idea, but there would always be greedy japanese there and we wouldn't have a chance.

But as Salvatore said there could be translators but once again, someone would eventually get greedy and screw it up. What I don't understand though, I'll use normal Behemoth as an example. I've went and just watched the spawn several times, knowing no NA would ever have a chance at claiming him. Thunder elementals spawn commonly a lot, but I see the graphic for provocation go off on those mobs (whether it be Provoke or Chi Blast). When Behemoth pops, it pops claimed, no animation shown. The same thing happens with Yagudo in Castle Oztroja, when you camp Mee Deggi. The placeholders pop, JP voke, I can see the animation. Mee Deggi pops, claimed.

While they might not see the advantage they have, it's obvious to us. If they don't know their advantage, this may be where that "na not have strong hnm ls" argument comes from. From their point of view, we never get claims. Perhaps someone should show this thread to SE though. Maybe give them an idea of how well the language barrier does in this game.


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Ive read the jbbs boards as best as i can and ive had people translate most of it for me. the japanese dont beleive that pulling hnms is that hard. They dont understand the lag issues.

I could care less, I dont need their sympathy, infact thats the last thing i want. All I want is an even playing field. Honestly I have no bad feelings towards any NA HNMLS. I wouldnt be that mad if another HNM LS got behemoth or fafnir and such. the problem is that even with 20 NA players vs 1 japanese voker means that unless it pops out of reach, its not poping claimed.

oh but its funny that when behemoth king pops early it shows up yellow not purple. Thats probitly because the botters dont have their macro set to KB.

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Man, this just makes me more sad the more i read this thread...

I know there's nothing that can be said or done to make the problem go away. I just wish things would change for NA HMN LS, cause if the mob can't even pop without being unclaimed, there's a serious problem somewhere. I just hope it changes for ya'll for the better.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:07 pm 
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Well bottom line. EQ2 > FFXI. I got a friend that I met here at ASU that's gonna be in the EQ2 beta. he knows someone that can invite him into the beta. So yeah.... I'm not sure I'll even play it. But it's gonna be better than FFXI. FFXI was fairly unbalanced, and the endgame isn't fun.


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Denchi wrote:
endgame isn't fun.


How do you know? you never even got close to end game


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FFXI has a great end game and content that makes other MMOs look pathetic. Its also one the most ballanced MMO ive ever played.

Im sure EQ2 will be ok, but its my opinion that FFXI is the best MMO on the market right now and I really dont think EQ is gonna blow FFXI out of the water.

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Personally EQ isn't going to come close to killing FFXI's community.

Think of it this way - How many expansions does EQ have? You'd think with all those, the game would be complete? Obviously not. All i see in EQ2 is a facelift.

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If you leave FFXI for anything made by SOE, it's time to be shot for you.

Anyone else catch that nice new glitch they pulled? teleporting the planet to...the outer orbit of space, I believe it was?

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Well I base the fact that the end game sucks on: you guys bitch a lot. about Jpn unfairness, and about being bored with camping stupid HNM's all the time that you don't get.


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Theres much more to Endgame then just Timed HNMS, theres missions, gods, other poped NMs, PvP, Dynmais, crafting and with CoP on the way exspect to see much more


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oh ok. well it doesn't sound very fun to me. because all I hear is bitching.


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Actually, you can't hear text but...

In seriousness Denchi, that is all you can do is see it. It's a diffrent outlook in being lvl 75 and having to deal with it and giving an opinion about it, than giving an opinion of someone's opinion..

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Anyone else catch that nice new glitch they pulled? teleporting the planet to...the outer orbit of space, I believe it was?


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Yeah... i agree with the NM/HNMS thing popping claimed is unfair.... hell if you ever camp spook the thing can spawn dead sometimes lol. I just feel bad for Europe because they will be like 6 seconds behind the JP and 3 seconds behind us probably =/ So they are gonna be getting pwned by everyone, nvm the fact they get the game so late to begin with.


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You mean most Europeans weren't getting pwned already?

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