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| Author: | Kirana [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Why CKD Dynamis is Best. |
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| Author: | Shadowstalker [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:03 am ] |
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Looks like astral flow to me. 
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| Author: | Runefury [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:06 am ] |
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T_T mocking others failed attempts /cry |
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| Author: | Sparky [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:19 am ] |
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Lol, Funny you can see the bastok flags and gates, hahaha start of the easiest one. |
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| Author: | Lappi [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:30 am ] |
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| Author: | Runefury [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:07 am ] |
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The funniest thing about that pic is the little taru named, WANG - XG 
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| Author: | Rakeen [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:17 am ] |
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Well i would be stupid to say that the CKD raids arnt very good but i definately have come out of many a CKD raid looking just like that so I dont really think that SS says much at all. |
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| Author: | Kirana [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:06 am ] |
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Drama People Need to Lighten up, lol |
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| Author: | Mikey [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:36 am ] |
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I don't think we are the best. That isn't the best way to label it, i think we are really good at dynamis runs. Nobody's perfect we've wiped before too, its all really a learning experience. I want us all to get af2 lol so the jps can eat it haha |
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| Author: | Ketrebu [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:03 am ] |
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I think what a lot of people are missing here, is that this is a wipe in Bastok, heh. We have lost bastok once ever, and that was on our very first raid ever, when about 90% of the people there had never even been to Dynamis before, and we didn't lose because of wiping, we simply ran out of time because we were being to cautious and pulling way too slowly. We usually take a heavy toll on the Mega Boss, because of his AoE Physical that will KO pretty much every mage in the area if he uses it twice, but never a full wipe, we can even take on the Mega Boss and all of his guards at once now, lol. A lot of people do not realise that the key to a successful Dynamis is knowing what to pull, where to pull, and when to pull it. Regardless of the skill of your players, if you pull 173824620 mobs, you're going to die. Huge props go to Yummy who does most of our pulling, after studying a heck of a lot of maps and learning where all the time extensions, NMs, Mega Boss triggers, etc are. A lot of work goes into the raid behind the scenes, with maps, and tactics discussion and stuff to keep it smooth. I'm not saying that these people do not do this, but they probably just need a bit more organisation, they'll get it eventually. Also, doesn't that raid have a lot of chinese players in there? I always liked to think that the reason we do so well is because everyone listens to instructions. When tagging along on a JP raid or whatever, if people are talking two different languages, and you cant read both, you're going to have communication problems. |
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| Author: | Shadowstalker [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:06 am ] |
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Rakeen wrote: Well i would be stupid to say that the CKD raids arnt very good but i definately have come out of many a CKD raid looking just like that so I dont really think that SS says much at all.
lol For real. At least other people are trying to get the 4 major dynamis raids done snce "The people who organize the best raids," (still don't really agree with that, haha.) are doing beaucedine and xarcabard lately. Good luck in teh future raids- it's only a matter of practice. Lappi- I'll mother your children. Just don't hate me! 
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| Author: | Yarr [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:05 am ] |
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The difference is we have a private Dynamis board where we go over all the details with everyone in CKD(+melo). Theres generally 1 CKD member per group. Pulling is also a very fine art that Yummy has mastered. |
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| Author: | Lappi [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:56 pm ] |
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Shadow >> I'd never hate you sexy rdm. I just think that this post was really uncalled for. Difference between this raid and CKD (which I love too) is that it's still new for a few. It takes a little time and patience to get good at these and I'm sure CKD wasn't a shining success after 2 raids. Sure enough CKD's raids are the best out there but it still took the hardwork of all the members that joined (Especially the patience of big ol' Yarr) and those that stuck out with CKD even through the rough times. Secondly, as Ket said, the organization really needs to be worked on but hey this is only 2nd raid and they were on their last stretch before mega. Thirdly, just because there are Chinese ppl in that raid doesn't mean there is a big communication gap ^^; They all speak/understand English. We have to learn English as well as many others in this world, it's just that some prefer to use it in game amongst their own friends but throughout this raid there was only English talk so I believe the communication wasn't a problem. On a last note, this is a very very VERY young dynamis LS and its still on it's way. Just b/c it wiped out in bastok doesn't mean it's not very good. Hell it's completely different to compare a new DYNLS to a top tier DYNLS. Plus there were still a good amount of AF's that dropped ^^; |
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| Author: | Gades [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:52 pm ] |
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The fact that we only had ~40 ppl and that most where called on the fly didn't really helped
Still we managed to grab 5 AF2, SMN, MNKx2, DRG and BST. |
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| Author: | Lazyazn [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:20 pm ] |
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like gades said we only had 40 ppl and evry1 there did understad english no chinese in the LS was spoken.. only other language spoken was french and that was Gade's MT to Kaylia lol.. from my understanding these guys are new at this, i bet theyll learn and next time theyll come out better and ya .. there was good amount of AF2 drops heh SMN on first couple of mobs then X2 mnk in a row .. Kirana i think you owe some ppl an apology |
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| Author: | Kirana [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:02 pm ] |
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Lappi wrote: Sure enough CKD's raids are the best out there
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| Author: | Shadowstalker [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:15 pm ] |
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The point is, Kirana- Lappi feels like you're degrading the work of other people because they're trying to start their own dynamis raids by posting this screenshot. Not to mention giving off a vibe of discouraging others from even trying to go on anything but a CKD raid. Honestly, I think it falls in the same line as the screenshot Kotee posted of stealing Charybdis. It's humiliating and a slap in the face. I don'teven see how that screenshot was meant to be funny, to be honest. heh |
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| Author: | Knolan [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:55 pm ] |
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LOL FYI kirana check out "Valkyries" raids once in a while and talk about BEST. I agree with Lappi that Dynamis LS is still young and i know this becuase i am part of that LS, also by posting that pic and labeling this post with that title you are telling people that no other LS is capable of having victory in dynamis and that is harsh. :'( |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 4:29 pm ] |
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Dojo raids were sucsess full on our second raid of bastok. Back in early August when the average level was under 70. The only level 75s were people in CKD. Organization is key to a good Dynamis. Theres a big difference between the raids when we make groups on the fly and when I spend 2 hours making and remaking groups. TOday it took me about an hour to make the dynamis groups. If we had 2 more RDM the alliances would look totally different. |
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| Author: | Dchaos [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:19 pm ] |
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nvm |
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| Author: | Kirana [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:26 pm ] |
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Anyone who knows me would understand that I posted this picture to be funny. I'm not going to edit/remove it just because people are crying because they are offended that I would have the gall to post something so insulting as a humor post on popular forums. If you want to pretend that last night wasn't a horrible failure, thats fine. If you want to pretend that "it only being our second run" is an excuse for not preparing, thats fine. If you want to never invite me again, thats fine. I wasn't trying to be mean, but i will if you want me too. |
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| Author: | Knolan [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:07 pm ] |
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Kirana i am not trying to be mean here when i say this: Excuse for not preparing? lol have you tried to organize a raid? How long have you been a puller in any raid? You posted it to be funny? You are telling me when an LS is not victorious on an event on which they work hard, spend time and gil on then fail.... you consider that as humor? tut tut.... |
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| Author: | Shadowstalker [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:26 pm ] |
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I just think think the title is lame, myself. 
The screenshot is fine, since we post screens of CKD raids getting wiped. It's just not funny in the context. Kirana wrote: Anyone who knows me would understand that I posted this picture to be funny. I'm gonna generalize. I don't think the large majority of the people who went on this raid know you all that well. Hell, I don't, and you've been on a couple CKD raids and you're friends with like Shiloh and Volrath and stuff. Yay, assumptions. Kirana wrote: If you want to pretend that last night wasn't a horrible failure, thats fine. If you want to pretend that "it only being our second run" is an excuse for not preparing, thats fine Firstly, I don't remember anyone denying that the run was a failure. Generally when you lose, it's well a failure. I checked the list last night to see who was in dynamis-bastok and I saw a bunch of names I've never seen in a dynamis before. Aside from all the preparing CKD does in their private section for dynamis, (people should see the like 3-5 page posts people write on this stuff  ) most of the people at the helm did raids at like 3 in the morning every saturday night with Aphex. The experience there contributes a lot to the success and strategy of CKD raids.Next, and I really don't want to discourage any other thieves or whatever job... I've known Yummy for a long time, (since about March,) and he without a doubt the best puller I've ever seen (I'm not even talking about Dynamis- I've seen some crazy shit in XP parties as well.) As far as dynamis maps go, he studies them almost religiously. Example- today before our Dy-Xarca run, he and I started at the trail markings and did an exact run of where the statues/time extensions where and the best possible path to get to the mini-strongholds and eventually castle zvhal, (assuming we get to DL any time soon, haha.) Knolan wrote: You are telling me when an LS is not victorious on an event on which they work hard, spend time and gil on then fail.... you consider that as humor? tut tut....
I think that about sums it up there. I think being mean for the sake of being mean because someone is stating an opinion/ trying to defend something is a little uncalled for. I don't see Lappi pointing the finger and saying you're being bitchy, I think he's saying exactly what I said at the beginning, the title could've been different. Whatever, I'm done. |
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| Author: | Shiloh [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:47 pm ] |
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:| Knolan, I don't know whether to be offended by your Valkeries comment or not, so I just won't. How many people on these forums right now, other than your "uber" ass have a shot at being on any JP or HK dynamis raid? Very, very few of us, and no, the Sentinel's raids are not new, whoever said they have little dynamis experience is missinformed. Many of them have been doing dynamis raids long before CKD ever started doing them. They have Dynamis experience and have quite a few raids underneath their own dynamis LS. Bottom line is this, Cheeseburger (not CKD) dynamis raids are the best English raids on this server. This is because those that arrange them go through maps, study tactics, talk to other Dynamis LS's from other servers, etc, etc, etc. We beat Bastok on our 2nd try (2nd raid ever) and haven't needed more than 2 tries to beat any of the dynamis zones so far, that includes Dynamis-Beaudeacine. Xarcabard is another story entirely and I suspect it will take us a good while to get the hang of that raid but we learned a lot on our inaugeral run. I'll by no means say that our raids are by far superior to the Sentinels raids, they just seem to run their raids with far too few people. I know many in that LS and they are very capable of running raids with as much or more success than our own. |
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| Author: | Runefury [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:57 pm ] |
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Shadowstalker wrote: I just think think the title is lame, myself.
Ya, I agree.. it's the title. It's like your looking down on others... T_T' We can't blame Kirana for posting such a childish remark. I think Auronelite is Kirana's cousin... and he is pulling our foot again! Damn joo Dane Wilkerson! 
P.S. I'm surpised we don't have to register for Mysidians forums to see this screenie ho ho
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