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| Author: | Pix [ Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why kiting NM's can be dangerous |
As most of you know KB spawned today, but for those of you who werent there, here is a glimpse of KB unlciamed with almost no HP left. They ktied him around the whole time, and he went unclaimed every like 5 minutes. Suprisingly no one stole it. Shining cloth did drop ;; 
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:05 am ] |
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in japanese gameplay its considered rude to voke nm while its in play unless all the people trying to fight it are dead. really, i think the only way NA players will get a chance is if we voke when it goes yellow. all the japanese have low pings and still voke bot. ckd is like 0/10 tries for behemoth. |
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| Author: | meloffxi [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:40 am ] |
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Pix... in JP standard it's consider to be the worst act if you go steal a NM from other party... also even there seems to be nothing left KB can still fight for a while afterall it's KB you are watching here ^^ |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:54 am ] |
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yeah and japanese also dont understand that NAs will never get a shot at HNMs... |
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| Author: | Pix [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:22 am ] |
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Yeah I heard that if a LS dies to an HNM and other people are camping it, they will let the HNM med to full, then each LS will /random to see who gets to fight it, if there is more than one there. I know that is very ignorant and rude to steal an HNM when it goes unclaimed, but people are people, no telling when someone will do it. |
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| Author: | Reinheld [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:29 am ] |
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Well. I'm slowly starting to get sick of the Japanese dominance of this game, and they're skewed ethics. It's okay to make millions of gil fishbotting, it's okay to use bots to claim NM and HNM, but it's not okay to claim an NM that goes unclaimed. If the mob goes unclaimed in a fight, then they really shouldn't be fighting it. |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:29 am ] |
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they dont random. trust me japanese LS do steal them from each other. Camping NMs isnt all flowers and rainbows. I heard about last week a japanese LS stole fafnir called for help and kept voking and calling for help on it. honestly, I dont care anymore. Im so jaded from trying to get just 1 HNM from these guys with out them. doesnt matter if its 3AM or 5AM in the morning for them They always have to be there camping it. Get use to it guys, NA end game sucks. |
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| Author: | Pix [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:34 am ] |
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Im sure you might have a chance at KB, when I was there before and he spawned, no one did shit, cause they werent expecting him to pop lol. So im sure you could get him eventually. |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:43 am ] |
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Not so much pix. they kill behemoth as fast as possible or drag the fight out just to keep it in a time where NAs cant assemble as fast. Also considering we have 1/100 the population its alot harder for us to get people out to kill it. All we want is the damn quest item for kayne. |
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| Author: | Pix [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:46 am ] |
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Yeah I know, Behemoth Tongue ;; /comfort Thats the only one I assume he needs now. The sad thing is, even if you do claim Behemoth, the odds of getting the Tongue are very slim I heard. higher drop rate on KB. |
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| Author: | Lildog17 [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:48 am ] |
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Damn. they sound ruthless. I though JPs had honor and all that stuff? |
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| Author: | Yarr [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:01 pm ] |
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we are talking about normal people here. These arnt people from "The Last Samuri". They are just like us. Some good, some bad. Generally speaking no one will ever steal your HNM. If you steal an HNM the LS you steal it from is gonna trash talk your ls and blacklist you from Japanese events and such. So really, say one of the NA linkshells did steal King Behemoth from a japanese LS. What now? They trash talk us in a language we dont understand? Now we arnt invited to all those God and Dynamis events they never invite us to anyway? Ohh geez I really dont wanna get on their bad side.... 
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| Author: | meloffxi [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:12 pm ] |
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about stealing a NM... what if one day you finally get to claim a KB and someone steal it from you... about the JP hardcoreness... most of the ppl from Pix's picture is not even JP... they do use the JP version but they are not JP... Ifrit server is special due to other factor as well (not going to discuss that here) |
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| Author: | Lildog17 [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:12 pm ] |
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LOL. Yarr...... you sarcasm is peircing. lol. |
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| Author: | Peejo [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:23 pm ] |
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JP aren't as good as you think. They do steal your mobs. Just last week, I was helping my Chinese ls friend getting joyeuse. The JP pt wiped, I even raised their NIN before my chinese ls gets there. Charydbis is now unclaim and full health. My Chinese ls is ready to go. So the Chinese ls charged, the mob came unclaim at 80%. What did jp do? They voke it and keep it. JP are human, they will do the same shit as NA has to do to get a spawn if they are in the bad position. If you don't want others steal your mob, don't let it go unclaim. If it's unclaim and you lose it, too bad. 
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| Author: | meloffxi [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:30 pm ] |
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I agree with Peejo on "not all JP are good" The use of "good" suggest that you do agree that stealing is bad, right? it's a game and with no hard written rule on this issue... you are free to do anything you want as long as you accept the consequence. |
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| Author: | Viviti [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:32 pm ] |
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JP people suck =/ I know that not all are bad but some are downright mean, especially towards NA players. I was in an all JP party in Qufim with BLM, and it was a good party, constant xp, no deaths, not even near deaths, long skillchains, all with MB opertunity, etc etc.... But one thing always bothered me: Our pullers provoke macro. I can read a bit of japanese, but cant type the symbols, but it was roughly translated to this: ((JPpuller))Hey, would you like to join our party? ((JPpuller))<t>: {Sorry} {I dont speak Japanese} ((JPpuller))*Provoke* So....he would provoke the mobs who are stupid NAs who cant speak Japanese? For shame ~_~ |
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| Author: | Peejo [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:33 pm ] |
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Quote: The use of "good" suggest that you do agree that stealing is bad, right?
No, I will have no problem to steal a HNM out of any JPN's hand. If you suck so bad that you let your HNM go unclaim you don't deserve to keep it. 
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| Author: | meloffxi [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:38 pm ] |
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that will be easy then... most of the time KB will go unclaim at least once for sure... the chance of claiming it is so easy... Yarr will not need to complaint that much if that's the case. |
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| Author: | Ganamena [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why kiting NM's can be dangerous |
i want to reply here.while we killing king behemoth.one of your member sxxxxxxx (ninja) voke king behe, he not only take our nm,he aslo mpk us.and then he call /help to king behemoth.i dont why .at that time i want to find GM to ban his /acc .Finally i havent do so.i know u guys want to help kayne to get the quest item.now i will discuss with my ls member see whether we can kill hnm together at sometime or not.but i hope you guys dont take other peoples hnm again |
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| Author: | Kailyn [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:53 pm ] |
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It really is quite sad that the monsters needed for some of the specialized high end gear are basically provoke fests. This happened for a time in EQ, but since you could quite literally "kill steaL" in EQ, people worked out compromises to share spawns. Unfortunately, all I sense is an overwhelming amount of Greed from the Japanese players who know they have the superior advantage in these provoke contests. Until S-E has an epiphany and actually puts some high level guard mobs on these things, or something to plow through, this kind of crap will just continue to be a problem, and a sense of disappointment for any American who reaches the high end game only to find that the stuff you want is practically impossible to get. |
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| Author: | meloffxi [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:59 pm ] |
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it will be nice if the BCNM 99 is easier... the way I see it BCNM should be the same difficulty as the HNM but THEY ARE NOT ><|| |
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| Author: | Ganamena [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Why kiting NM's can be dangerous |
hmm i tihink not only Na cant get strong hnm.Ifrit too many hnm ls and strong hnm many ppl want to kill.if u want to try it.one of the method is change to other server. |
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| Author: | Peejo [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:02 pm ] |
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Or all of the JPN should just find a new game to play since this game is so old for them already. Yeah, it's great to own everything and killing the same shit day after day, but don't they get bored already doing that? I am bored out of my mind everytime I hear let's go kill gods in sky. Woohoo, more loots for everyone, go us! :x |
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| Author: | Mikey [ Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:04 pm ] |
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eating cheese and crackers is pretty enjoyable at the moment |
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