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Ponuh wrote:
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I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.


You think that countries listen to the United States because they respect the President? What the fuck are you thinking?


Not quite what I was saying.

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I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.


But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them.

I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


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I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.
But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them. I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


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Wow that rivals the idiocy of hardline bible belters. You're clearly more of a hate-monger than you've ever let on, dahling


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Obama isn't Muslim. Lol you are merely taking his last name and assuming.

And even if he was. Lets just say he was, it shouldn't be an issue. Osama is and his group are considered religious extremists. They've twisted what the Koran says into something totally different and evil.
Islam isn't an evil religion as some people may think, if you want to think about it that way then Christianity is probably just as evil if not more.

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Seriously, yarr, why has ponuh not been banned from these forums?


Ponuh gets very heated about political talks and opinions. And Of course i wouldn't phrase it the way ponuh's reply was towards arrowyns remark, but her post was rather ignorant lol. Ponuh is only bad if you let him get to you.

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A troll is a troll to me, lol *shrug*

Eh back on topic, I don't know much about islam, and I agree that all religion when taken to an extreme is horrible. But I always hear that people get lashings and even executed in Islamic countries if you go against th faith, so I'd concider that abit worse than christianity at this point lol

Back on first topic:

Hillary still leads the polls in most of the feb 5th states, she, at this point, has the advantage if you go by the polls on realclearpolitics.com. In the most important states like cali and NY and new jersey, she leads by a healthy amount, but obama has Illinois by far, another important state.

Also hillary has her (( I love this quote from a guy on CNN or wherver I heard it )) " Latino Firewall "
wich will probably secure her lead in those bigger states.

But obama is obama, and as always time is on his side. The more he campaigns the closer he catches hillary in the polls. Question is, does he have enough time. We will see. She already dropped 1% since yesterday in cali, might be a sign :p But she rose in the National polls.

Anyways i'm just blabbing out of excitement for tuesday, I can't wait to see what happens.

Most important thing though, and I've been talking to alot of people about this. They mentioned the chance of the dream team ticket in the democratic debate, I'm sure most of you saw.

If obama is elected, he won't choose hillary. Shes too polarizing and would only hurt him.

But if Hillary is elected, obama would be perfect, and as many have said and I agree with- A Hillary/Obama ticket is unbeatable.

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I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.


But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them.

I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


I lol'd at "muslim sympathizer." There are something around 5.8 million muslims in America. I'm sure having a woman as president wouldn't highlight the glaring cultural differences between our two countries.

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Seriously, yarr, why has ponuh not been banned from these forums?


You're kind of a saucy wench yourself. It should be refreshing to know that I'll insult anyone who makes a woefully intolerant comment regardless of who they are. I think the response was pretty light if you look at how fucking stupid the post was.


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Ponuh wrote:
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Nuku wrote:
I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.
But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them. I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


Oh look a racist little princess. How cute, you tremendously ignorant bitch.


How is that racist at all? Way to twist my words Ponuh, as I said nothing about Islam being a piece of shit religion. I'm saying Arab countries won't like someone who converted away from Islam and that's a FACT. I have middle eastern people in my family so yes I do know this as a fact. I don't have an ounce of racism in me, but you wouldn't know because you don't know me at all, and I don't know you. Like who the hell are you, I don't ever recall seeing you in ffxi, you just magically appeared on these forums, so don't call me an ignorant racist princess-bitch. Sexist prick (just pulling a you).

I don't dislike Obama because he was a muslim(which I still believe), that has nothing to do with it. I'm saying arab countries won't like that. But everyone is trying to throw shit against Hilary left and right and as long as people do that, I will do it to Obama.

Edit: and I don't mean "everyone" as you guys on the forums, just in general.


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Ponuh wrote:
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Nuku wrote:
I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.
But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them. I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


Oh look a racist little princess. How cute, you tremendously ignorant bitch.


How is that racist at all? Way to twist my words Ponuh, as I said nothing about Islam being a piece of shit religion. I'm saying Arab countries won't like someone who converted away from Islam and that's a FACT. I have middle eastern people in my family so yes I do know this as a fact. So please don't call me ignorant Mikey as I have first-hand sources. Back to Ponuh: I don't have an ounce of racism in me, but you wouldn't know because you don't know me at all, and I don't know you. Like who the hell are you, I don't ever recall seeing you in ffxi, you just magically appeared on these forums, so don't call me an ignorant racist princess-bitch. Sexist prick (just pulling a you).

I don't dislike Obama because he was a muslim(which I still believe), that has nothing to do with it. I'm saying arab countries won't like that. But everyone is trying to throw shit against Hilary left and right and as long as people do that, I will do it to Obama.

Edit: and I don't mean "everyone" as you guys on the forums, just in general.


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Arrowyn wrote:
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I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.
But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them. I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


Oh look a racist little princess. How cute, you tremendously ignorant bitch.


How is that racist at all? Way to twist my words Ponuh, as I said nothing about Islam being a piece of shit religion. I'm saying Arab countries won't like someone who converted away from Islam and that's a FACT. I have middle eastern people in my family so yes I do know this as a fact. So please don't call me ignorant Mikey as I have first-hand sources. Back to Ponuh: I don't have an ounce of racism in me, but you wouldn't know because you don't know me at all, and I don't know you. Like who the hell are you, I don't ever recall seeing you in ffxi, you just magically appeared on these forums, so don't call me an ignorant racist princess-bitch. Sexist prick (just pulling a you).

I don't dislike Obama because he was a muslim(which I still believe), that has nothing to do with it. I'm saying arab countries won't like that. But everyone is trying to throw shit against Hilary left and right and as long as people do that, I will do it to Obama.

Edit: and I don't mean "everyone" as you guys on the forums, just in general.


YOU HAVE MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE IN YOU FAMILY?! Yes, then it must be true.

You're once again showing your logical brilliance. Also, you are unapologetically racist, you tiara wearing motherfucker


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Ponuh wrote:
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Ponuh wrote:
Arrowyn wrote:
Nuku wrote:
I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.
But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them. I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


Oh look a racist little princess. How cute, you tremendously ignorant bitch.


How is that racist at all? Way to twist my words Ponuh, as I said nothing about Islam being a piece of shit religion. I'm saying Arab countries won't like someone who converted away from Islam and that's a FACT. I have middle eastern people in my family so yes I do know this as a fact. So please don't call me ignorant Mikey as I have first-hand sources. Back to Ponuh: I don't have an ounce of racism in me, but you wouldn't know because you don't know me at all, and I don't know you. Like who the hell are you, I don't ever recall seeing you in ffxi, you just magically appeared on these forums, so don't call me an ignorant racist princess-bitch. Sexist prick (just pulling a you).

I don't dislike Obama because he was a muslim(which I still believe), that has nothing to do with it. I'm saying arab countries won't like that. But everyone is trying to throw shit against Hilary left and right and as long as people do that, I will do it to Obama.

Edit: and I don't mean "everyone" as you guys on the forums, just in general.


YOU HAVE MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE IN YOU FAMILY?! Yes, then it must be true.

You're once again showing your logical brilliance. Also, you are unapologetically racist, you tiara wearing motherfucker


Haha wow you can't explain how I'm "racist" yet you still claim I am, idiot. I think it's funny how if anyone makes any attack on Obama like people do on Hillary, people's defense is "ommgg you racist omgg". I thought Nuku's point about Hillary was silly and unimportant, so I brought something dumb about Obama. It's only fair since everyone calls out all the shots against Hillary, but everyone is too afraid to say anything about Obama because they might be called racist. LIKE OMG I THINK NUKU'S COMMENT WAS TOTALLY SEXIST TO ALL WOMEN IN AMERICA and now I'm deeply offended

And yes it is true, I'm 1/4 assyrian (look it up bitch) and my mom lived in Iraq till she was 17 years old, and all my relatives from that side were born there. You on the other hand have no reference and are pulling things out of your ass. Can you speak /read arabic Ponuh? Have you read an original copy of the Koran? Have you even experienced first hand the shit that goes down over there? No you haven't. All I said is they behead people who denounce Islam, their own daughters even, and that's fact. Therefore, they don't like people who convert away from Islam. Make sense or do my sentences contain too many words? I did not go on a muslim-hating spree.

You're just a dumb shit, ignorant, seemingly-white boy (from what I can tell, because white people always want to be the first to call people racist maybe to prove they're not) who likes to twist words to stir an argument because that makes you feel better. You are the most judgemental person on these forums in fact. And I'll keep wearing my tiara thanks


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Ponuh wrote:
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I've an uncle who's lived/worked in Saudi Arabia for over a decade, he did military-esc work for their government and stuff way back during desert storm and stayed there to continue to help after the conflict. He was mentioning to me (Since he's back in the states now), about how very few people in that part of the world would listen to a woman leader. So on and so forth. So I'd be interested in seeing that aspect of reaction if Hillary was sworn into office.
But they'd listen to a former muslim? In Islam they behead those who denounce Allah. Obama never clearly comes out and says he no longer is a muslim too, and if he still is, well I dont want a muslim sympathizer as president. I'm sure they'd listen to Hilary more, Bill was nice to them. I'm not assuming you're in support of Obama though, just trying to point out that Obama is going to have more issues with arab countries imo.


Oh look a racist little princess. How cute, you tremendously ignorant bitch.


How is that racist at all? Way to twist my words Ponuh, as I said nothing about Islam being a piece of shit religion. I'm saying Arab countries won't like someone who converted away from Islam and that's a FACT. I have middle eastern people in my family so yes I do know this as a fact. So please don't call me ignorant Mikey as I have first-hand sources. Back to Ponuh: I don't have an ounce of racism in me, but you wouldn't know because you don't know me at all, and I don't know you. Like who the hell are you, I don't ever recall seeing you in ffxi, you just magically appeared on these forums, so don't call me an ignorant racist princess-bitch. Sexist prick (just pulling a you).

I don't dislike Obama because he was a muslim(which I still believe), that has nothing to do with it. I'm saying arab countries won't like that. But everyone is trying to throw shit against Hilary left and right and as long as people do that, I will do it to Obama.

Edit: and I don't mean "everyone" as you guys on the forums, just in general.


YOU HAVE MIDDLE EASTERN PEOPLE IN YOU FAMILY?! Yes, then it must be true.

You're once again showing your logical brilliance. Also, you are unapologetically racist, you tiara wearing motherfucker


Haha wow you can't explain how I'm "racist" yet you still claim I am, idiot. I think it's funny how if anyone makes any attack on Obama like people do on Hillary, people's defense is "ommgg you racist omgg". I thought Nuku's point about Hillary was silly and unimportant, so I brought something dumb about Obama. It's only fair since everyone calls out all the shots against Hillary, but everyone is too afraid to say anything about Obama because they might be called racist. LIKE OMG I THINK NUKU'S COMMENT WAS TOTALLY SEXIST TO ALL WOMEN IN AMERICA and now I'm deeply offended

And yes it is true, I'm 1/4 assyrian (look it up bitch) and my mom lived in Iraq till she was 17 years old, and all my relatives from that side were born there. You on the other hand have no reference and are pulling things out of your ass. Can you speak /read arabic Ponuh? Have you read an original copy of the Koran? Have you even experienced first hand the shit that goes down over there? No you haven't. All I said is they behead people who denounce Islam, their own daughters even, and that's fact. Therefore, they don't like people who convert away from Islam. Make sense or do my sentences contain too many words? I did not go on a muslim-hating spree.

You're just a dumb shit, ignorant, seemingly-white boy (from what I can tell, because white people always want to be the first to call people racist maybe to prove they're not) who likes to twist words to stir an argument because that makes you feel better. You are the most judgemental person on these forums in fact. And I'll keep wearing my tiara thanks


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Ponuh gets very heated about political talks and opinions. And Of course i wouldn't phrase it the way ponuh's reply was towards arrowyns remark, but her post was rather ignorant lol. Ponuh is only bad if you let him get to you.


People let Ponuh get to them way too easily. He does has a way with words though, as they seem to illicit fiery responses rather often.

On a side note, Arrowyn, what the heck does not appearing in FFXI or not knowing Ponuh in FFXI (he was around NA PC launch since you're curious,) have to do with political debates? That's a silly card to play in an obvious fiery response to counter what he posted.

You also took Nuku's post a bit out of context as he was just responding to Jimbean's post about interesting reaction with a skirt in the office.

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Bolded part is the point of contention. Underlined part is what you're being attacked on by Ponuh.

Could of simply mentioned that the Muslim world will see Obama born as a Muslim, regardless of whether he was a practitioner of the religion or not as a child, thus the worry many will not to open up to him and only see him as an apostate requiring execution.

Also, claiming the Muslim world will listen to Hilary more on the basis of Bill was nice to them in the past is just... well down right silly logic.

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Bill Clinton is reviled by hardline Muslim communities because he was a public adulterer.

That's obviously not the point, though. Arrowyn, you've kamikazed yourself with your own horrendous logic to the point where my job is done. Everything I'd need to say about you can be easily inferred through your own posts, whether you know it or not. The only retarded thing left is for you to post a Webster's definition of "racism" to prove that you are in fact not a racist. The fact that you inadvertently make a sweeping generalization about white people at the end of your post on how there is no way you are a racist should really send up the warning bells, yes? Self-censorship, little girl. Quit fucking yourself over.


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Um no, I'm mostly white so I can say what I want, and the comment is not even racist. Stop being hyper sensitive. Your logic, or lack there of, is "your post proves my point blahblah" but you never explain how or why, so admit that you're a fucking retard and a waste of life. Just keep claiming shit without backing it up. I'm done having this conversation with you though because you are by far the most retarded person I've ever met lol.


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Chickennoodlesoup, I brought up the part of not knowing who the fuck Ponuh is because I think it's out of line to pull out racist/hater/bitch out of what I said, especially without having anything else to infer from.

I personally think Nuku's comment doesn't matter, and I don't like all the little details that are brought up that make Hillary appear to be less qualified. And no I didn't take it out of context I can read. Nobody does that to Obama so I made a silly and pointless one like I think Nuku's comment was. So there. I only said 2 lines about it because I don't think it's that important and I didn't expect people to take it so damn seriously. And I believe I've mentioned this already but some people still don't get it.


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Oh my fucking god. I had abandoned ff13 and wasn't even going to touch it but Ulgo just changed my mind. When does it come out? And its for ps3 right?

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