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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:07 pm 
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well if your cocky all the time you give off the impression "im only in a friendship for sex then you can go away"


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Arim wrote:
well if your cocky all the time you give off the impression "im only in a friendship for sex then you can go away"



friends with women? seriously? If you are dating someone or married sure... but if you're single forget it.


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Arlania wrote:
Here's a lesson for everyone on how to seduce.

http://www.fwakanimation.com.au/drA01.html


perfect example of what not to do.


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i hate cocky people too, but i also think fossil is right, i wind up in these situations because i'm a nice guy, women see that and automatically think friendship. This is so disheartening and upseting to me that i blasted converge the whole way home and screamed my fucking head off to the point that I'm hoarse now, I know that to have any shot at ever being with someone I have to be some cocky arrogant asshole and not myself.. the nice guy. Thank you life, Thank you God, Thank you women.. and fuck you. I'm done with this topic


Nononono, I don't think that this is what was meant. At least I didn't mean it this way. By cocky, I don't mean arrogant. There's a strong difference between being confident in a situation and being a jackass about it. Ask yourself, "Would you rather have a woman confident in her abilities, (perhaps for the sake of comforting you with your own problems,) or someone who can barely maintain themselves and is wholly reliant upon you?" I've been told this by a few girls, so the same situation applies when the genders are switched.

Patience is a virtue. When a girl is deciding on who she wants to be with for a long time, who is it going to be- the guy who gets into fights and goes to jail, or the person who even when they can't say all the right things to make everything 100%, they at least listen, or care.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:50 pm 
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every situation and every person is different.
and everyone is capable of growing up and changing.
lumping all women into one group is hardly fair or right. but whatever.

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Im short on time so ill go through it in more detail later.

I just want to remind everyone that a relationship that works is one that happens. However, a relationship that lasts is one that has both people working to keep.

Its easy to fall in love. Its not easy to keep things working. Theres also no such thing as "the one" or someone youre "ment to be with".

Thats total bullshit. A relationship requires work, with out the work, theres no reward. With out the reward theres no fun and the relationship is boring. I blame the fact that princess and I got along so well, we never fought, we never really had any problems. There were no highs and lows.

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I read your link... here's what I thought...

I thinks someone has mentioned it too... but it seems both post... we only hear your side of the story... what about hers? have you listen to what she got to say? Did she made it clear what she want?

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I can't see how we can hold each other so close, and have this deep admiration, adoration, love, knowledge and respect for each other, and still think that, there is someone MORE deserving of our love out there than each other?


Unfortunately, yes... you can admire, adore, love, know, and respect each other... and yet... not passionately in love with that person at all.

To me, there’re many other relationships that’s more meaningful than being in love with someone. Friends and family both seem more permanent than the person you’re in love with… And you can admire, adore, love, know, respect, care for a dear friend.

It breaks my heart to tell you, but sometimes you just need that little mystery to spark a girl’s passion. She knows you too well… and she probably knows how head over heel you are for her… there’s little she left for her to fantasy about you… basically her situation is quite the opposite of yours… you have been wanting her for so long, and all you have ever got is rejection, which fuels your obsession. And you are probably fantasize her to be something she really isn’t =(

I don’t know what other advice I can give you other than just move on. She doesn’t want to start a relationship with you and no matter how bad her choices are… you can’t do anything to change it And until she realize for herself how much you are to her, and if she really do have feelings for you… there’s no way for you to get to her heart.

It’s sad, but just because you gave her your unconditional love doesn’t mean that the feelings are reciprocal

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Some things are best unsaid, even though you may have feelings for them, i'd rather still be friends than rather not be any at all.


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a relationship that works is one that happens


that’s how I see it too… if I was ever to be attracted to a friend, I’d left it unsaid too.. and if it happens it happens ^^ pushing it only break things ; ;

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"Would you rather have a woman confident in her abilities, (perhaps for the sake of comforting you with your own problems,) or someone who can barely maintain themselves and is wholly reliant upon you?"


Can’t agree with it more… but I think confident is different from cocky though =( cocky sorta imply the person is extrovert, insensitive and loud… while shy nice guys that doesn’t have poor self-esteem issue are just as great ^^~

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I blame the fact that princess and I got along so well, we never fought, we never really had any problems. There were no highs and lows.


Me and my ex never fight either… We always try to please each other… and don’t do what we know the other don’t like… and not complain when we see things we don’t like… even then… that was a lot of work… to tolerant and control yourself to not get annoyed or angry… and that is exactly what is wrong with our relationship.

Good relationship requires you to be yourself, and be honest… it’s not just about making peace… you are bound to see things differently and you need to bring it up… sort it though and in the process of it, sometimes you fight…

I am horrible at picking fights though ; ; that’s why I always end up in relationship where after a while… my love for that person just die. There’s no ups and down… it’s just gone.


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Its all about highs and lows in my opinion. Goods and the bads. You might think that a relationship with no problems would be perfect, when in fact the relationship with no problems is just a time bomb waiting to go off.

You cant have the good with out the bad. How else do you know what the good is? You just wont, things become boring and with out that contrast of emotions... things just get messed up and feelings get confused and its hard to tell how you feel. I can remember sitting down and wondering if I even really liked princess. Clearly I wasnt the only one who had those thoughts.

bleh

now get out of my head.

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honestly i have no idea why i am going to say this, it probably because i'm on

my last leg here and i really don't think i'll meet any of you. Jim believe it or

not i fully fully understand how you feel. With one exception though basically

the way i handle things with girls. Honestly i don't speak, i don't let them

know how i feel, nothing i say absolutely nothing. I'm well aware that nobody can

read minds, its not an issue about being shy. Yea... i'll break it down

i suppose since i honestly can't expect people to read my mind. I've had a

very tough childhood, i went thru things nobody and i mean nobody

should go thru. I have trouble sleeping at night because of it. Its honestly

destroyed me and my faith in alot of people. It actually destroyed my

faith in general. I've always asked god why did you let this happen. Heh

pretty sad i'm breaking down in these forums, still better than talking

about it loud. I guess if you don't get it, i'll explain even further i was

abused as a child, not once but for 10 years of life. It was so bad i can

remember from age 5 but I'm sure it was before that because of the

fragments that remain in my memory. "He" (yes he) destroyed me. Jim

do you know my real name? Its actually David. man i'm actually crying...

Let me continue i'm 23 now when i was 11 years old and after finally

strong enough I decided to

change my name mikey being my nick name. I simply refused to

answer people with the name "David" david was the weak one, mikey is

is in control. The difference was mikey wouldn't let himself get abused ,

David never knew didn't understand. I don't know how to explain it but i

protected myself from my own innocense. Don't get me wrong i don't have

muliple personas. I can't believe i'm actually saying this, i never speak

this. Anyway i'm trying to finish something, being me now i find it very

hard to speak to a girl to tell what how exactly i feel in fact i'm a total dick

about it. Honestly i don't understand what real love for a person is , nor

nor will i ever. Though There may be no hope for me there is for you, you

seem quite capable. I 100% mean this i want you out of this mood, i know

its easier said than done. I wish i could make everyone happy but i can't,

all i can do is keep my pain. And wish others pain away seems kinda lame

but thats how i am. ...

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Mikey :(

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i fucking love you mikey. i am soo sorry! that was really touching, and it was a total shock to read that. but i am glad you put that up because it makes me have respect for other people and anyone who abuses, murders or rapes a child deserves to go to hell.


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<3 Mikey

I don't really know what to say.

Maybe someday I'll have the guts to talk about my childhood problems too.


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its an insane and i do mean insane amount of pressure on ones soul. I feel broken. I remember mentioning how ones past affects there future. Sadly i'm one of those cases. The past plagues me. I've done an amazing job of stoping myself from remembering. Somewhat of a mental block, but it became useless when i saw "him" recently. I cannot tell you how my entire body froze. I'm not one to get scared easily, also not one you can take down rather easily. I managed to walk away and not say a word. Few people understand. Honestly talking like this scares me on what you guys think of me. I'm regreting mentioning this, simply because the more i talk the more i remember

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Mikey I dont say this to be rude but have you ever sought professional help? It may do some good if you havnt. Something like that will destroy your view on people as a whole and it would make sense that you cant express feelings to people because in the back of your mind maybe you are afraid of them hurting you emotionally. That's not healthy though trust me. I dont have the same background as you but I find it hard to express my feelings to others irl. I can type things and I can send letters and such but saying words to people it just so hard. You should talk to people though Mikey because you will find that you'll get no where if you dont. If you fall in love with a girl just say it. Unless she is a total bitch she will take that very much to heart. And once you have done that you will find its easier and easier.

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Arlania wrote:
Mikey I dont say this to be rude but have you ever sought professional help? It may do some good if you havnt. Something like that will destroy your view on people as a whole and it would make sense that you cant express feelings to people because in the back of your mind maybe you are afraid of them hurting you emotionally. That's not healthy though trust me. I dont have the same background as you but I find it hard to express my feelings to others irl. I can type things and I can send letters and such but saying words to people it just so hard. You should talk to people though Mikey because you will find that you'll get no where if you dont. If you fall in love with a girl just say it. Unless she is a total bitch she will take that very much to heart. And once you have done that you will find its easier and easier.


Theres nothing nobody can tell me to take the burden away from me. Its something i'll live with.

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to bad no one can erase your mind... i know i have no idea the pain you went threw, but i know how u must feel


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People cant take the burden away Mikey. thats impossible....but they can help you lift it and carry it with you.

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i learned to, just on certain times it becomes unbareable. for example i haven't been sleeping lately. It usually just takes a few days. My mind needs to focus on other things.

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mikey the good thing to know is your here with us today, it maybe hard to forget and i cant exactly say i know how you feel. but as long as you know you are the better person from your childhood thats all that matters


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Arim wrote:
mikey the good thing to know is your here with us today, it maybe hard to forget and i cant exactly say i know how you feel. but as long as you know you are the better person from your childhood thats all that matters


I don't know about better person. I just am the end result of whats left. I know this is gonna sound weird. But mikey took control gathered basically what was left of my sanity.

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you should take martial arts, its fun and did wonders for me ^_^


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Mikey I dont say this to be rude but have you ever sought professional help? It may do some good if you havnt. Something like that will destroy your view on people as a whole and it would make sense that you cant express feelings to people because in the back of your mind maybe you are afraid of them hurting you emotionally. That's not healthy though trust me. I dont have the same background as you but I find it hard to express my feelings to others irl. I can type things and I can send letters and such but saying words to people it just so hard. You should talk to people though Mikey because you will find that you'll get no where if you dont. If you fall in love with a girl just say it. Unless she is a total bitch she will take that very much to heart. And once you have done that you will find its easier and easier.


Theres nothing nobody can tell me to take the burden away from me. Its something i'll live with.


Even though I barely know you, Mikey ; ; it hurts to read your post... ; ;
I don't know if i am in the position to say anything.. but i do agree with lani...

No, no one can take the burden away from you. And yes, it's a past that you will have to leave with, but seeking professional help would help you cope with living with this past easier.

As you said, you are just pushing the memories back... and u even mention that they do resurface whenever something triggers them :(
Like any bad memory... unless you learn to accept them as part of urself and let it go... suppressing it only puts it away temporary... and it will come back an haunt you sometime ; ;~


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