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Apparently you have misread what I typed. Simple stop for a second. Hold back your need to pontificate against your apparent enemies, and read it again.


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Your response really doesn't surprise me. Most people who have convinced themselves of their own moral and intellectual superiority on issues can't be swayed by simple things such as scientifically proven facts, or simple common logic.

Ironically, that's the one thing the extreme right and the extreme left have in common.


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Hopefully this link works, I took a picture minutes after you requested. The two others are from a few days ago.

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The extreme right uses...facts, and science? No. They use their own logic and shitloads of opinion. O'reilly. Coulter.



Ok first off Ann Coulter is a cunt not many people actually take her seriously. Bill is an INDEPENDANT read some of his books and you will see that he talks shit about people on both sides although mostly the left wing. Ive read books from both of these people and Ann is psyco lol Bill should never be put in the same category as them. Thats like saying Micheal Moore and Bill Clinton are the same which is TOTALLY wrong. Bill's point of view actually has some good ideas while Micheal just takes bits and pieces of what is said and puts them together to make them say something totaly different. I dont like Micheal Ann or Mr rush hes crazy too lol. Oh and Al Franken is a retard too although alot less then Micheal and Ann.

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Not that I'm an expert on military things as they really don't interest me, but being forced to watch the history channel with my dad kinda helped me learn this one fact: Uranium shells are used in tanks due to the extreme density which allows them to penetrate VERY thick armour. They are so NOT used just for the radiation. As Kailyn stated, you would have to try pretty hard to actually suffer from the radiation sealed within those shells :wink:


Not that any military would use radiation itself as a weapon anyway (terrorists don't count), because radiation doesn't kill instantly (unless you have unimaginable quantities) and isn't the objective of war to kill the other person before he kills you? If I assume correctly, it's more effective to just shoot the bad guy than hope 20 years down the road that he develops cancer or something.


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and isn't the objective of war to kill the other person before he kills you?


No. its to be a wuss and shoot a guy 2miles away that you cant even see. We need battles like braveheart! :P

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and isn't the objective of war to kill the other person before he kills you?


No. its to be a wuss and shoot a guy 2miles away that you cant even see. We need battles like braveheart! :P



Agree no more guns and bombs just swords and axes and arrows lol ^^

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and isn't the objective of war to kill the other person before he kills you?


No. its to be a wuss and shoot a guy 2miles away that you cant even see. We need battles like braveheart! :P



Agree no more guns and bombs just swords and axes and arrows lol ^^


Cost of war would go down so much, then there would always be the asshole country thats like "Fuck this" *Fires missles* kills all of us in uits of armour and swords.....but sword and arrows sounds fun ^_^


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The extreme right uses...facts, and science? No. They use their own logic and shitloads of opinion. O'reilly. Coulter.



Ok first off Ann Coulter is a cunt not many people actually take her seriously. Bill is an INDEPENDANT read some of his books and you will see that he talks shit about people on both sides although mostly the left wing. Ive read books from both of these people and Ann is psyco lol Bill should never be put in the same category as them. Thats like saying Micheal Moore and Bill Clinton are the same which is TOTALLY wrong. Bill's point of view actually has some good ideas while Micheal just takes bits and pieces of what is said and puts them together to make them say something totaly different. I dont like Micheal Ann or Mr rush hes crazy too lol. Oh and Al Franken is a retard too although alot less then Micheal and Ann.

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What's not to like about Franken? He's intelligent, witty, funny, and most of all, everything he says is substaintiated with facts


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What's not to like about Franken? He's intelligent, witty, funny, and most of all, everything he says is substaintiated with facts



Intelligent - yes
Witty - yes
funny - at times
everything he says is substaintiated with facts - ppl say the same thing
about Rush and ann.

I put him in the same boat as those 2 he is a left wind wacko just like ann and rush are right wing wackos


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Here, I fixed your statement so it would be accurate.

To niche audiences, he's intelligent, witty, and funny, but most of all, everything he says is substaintiated with his perception of the facts.


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What's not to like about Franken? He's intelligent, witty, funny, and most of all, everything he says is substaintiated with facts



Intelligent - yes
Witty - yes
funny - at times
everything he says is substaintiated with facts - ppl say the same thing
about Rush and ann.

I put him in the same boat as those 2 he is a left wind wacko just like ann and rush are right wing wackos


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Have you read his books?


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Here, I fixed your statement so it would be accurate.

To niche audiences, he's intelligent, witty, and funny, but most of all, everything he says is substaintiated with his perception of the facts.


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Ive read part of his book that Fox sued him over and it was dumb. I couldnt even finish reading it. Hes a wacko just like ann

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I love that assumption you've made.


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lol how is me saying franken is a wacko any different then you saying ann is a wacko? Oh yea i forgot your a liberal yall are never wrong.

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lol how is me saying franken is a wacko any different then you saying ann is a wacko? Oh yea i forgot your a liberal yall are never wrong.


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Let me go get some quotes from Ann Coulter... these are from various magazines/books/other publications....

"God says, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'"

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors!"

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity!" (On Sept 11 terrorists)

Now let's have some more. O'reilly, anyone?

"I will tell you, when Michael Moore says that this president is an illegitimate president he crosses the line. He crosses the line into ANARCHY all right."

"It is true that if you are poor and can't afford a good lawyer, your odds of going to prison skyrocket. But you know what? TOUGH!"


Has Mr. Franken ever done anything like this? Of course not. He's just HIGHLY critical of things like this (above) that are said on a daily basis by these right-wing quacks.

At least I have some sort of proof, not just "I read some of a bit of a chapter once." Read "lies and the lying liars who tell them". It actually has a very nice string of FACTS and criticism, and of course pointing out liars (most noteably coulter, bush, hannity, savage, o'lielly)


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I'm amused that you think his book is full of facts, and I assure you that the right wing people will defend their candidate with similar zealotry, while disregarding any semblance of intellectual argument from the opposition. With pundits, like Franken, Coulter, etc.., the very notion of facts becomes a subjective matter, as they discard inconvenient facts and bolster the ones that support their argument. If you look at them from a "left" perspective, commentary from Franken not only seems legitimate but rock solid. The same can be said of someone viewing Rush from the right.

Unfortunately, for those of us with a brain who sit in the middle, they both appear to be idealogues, discarding notions and facts that don't fit into their cookie cutter synopsis' of events. It somewhat depresses me that people are so polarized with respect to their "champions" that they refuse to acknowledge the merit of the oppositions perspective.

For Example, to think that something so complex like the Iraq war, it's implications and causes can be boiled down into a couple "facts" is delusional at best. Yet, you will often see people arguing about whether it was right or wrong, whether it was good or bad, how the Neo-Cons did this, how the Liberals did that, and yet lose sight of reality.

Does the ends justify the means? It's a popular notion, but experience has proven time and time again, that the end does indeed often justify the means.


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ok Kailyn pretty much said what I was gonna say so im not gonna post much. Franken is crazy, Ann is crazy, Rush is crazy, and Micheal Moore is crazy. I dont know why you keep bringing up Ann we all agree shes fucking insane. Why are you still trying to argue with me about it? Lol im saying that you are right shes insane.


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Well, what I was saying is that you compared Franken's degree of extremity to Coulter's because you "read part of a chapter of his book". I posted those quotes with the hopes you could prove that you actually did research and had substance to your claims. Am I wrong?


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