lol this one is juicy let me break it down a little.




You really need to stop dancing around the point here. I am very ego drivin, theres no question about that. Everyone in this game knows I have an ego that rivals the mass of a super massive black hole.

I actually am a wicked person in real life. Im incrediby charasmatic. I have a very sharp wit and can easily get along with anyone I meet. Take a pot shot all you like at my persona out side of this game. I means nothing to me lol.

I understand what you are trying to say here, youre basically trying to bash me out side of the game. Thats really awesome, congratulations on that. Just one question though. How the hell is that relevant to what you quoted me saying? What does that have to do with Dynamis and how Fate Sealers do nothing but leech? Have Fate sealers been able to do any Dynamis Zones with less then 25 people like CKD has? Because last time I checked, thats what you quoted me talking about.

I give this 1/5 Mikeys.




You really need to stop trying to sound smart. Youre train of thought is all over the place and hard to follow. If I have "Flavors of the Week" who was last week?
Correct me if Im wrong here, but I have been bashing FS for longer than one week. I also bash anyone who makes a stupid mistake.
I dont bash people to make myself or linkshell look better. I bash FS because
1) Its easy.
2) They do all the real work for me.
3) Its just so damn easy.

I don't need to bash someone to make CKD look good. CKD does enough to prove it without any bashing. The whole point of me bashing FS is to show that FS does in fact hack (something we have been accusing them off ever since Vaelen started a thread telling people how to remove Darters from the .dat files so that they can pull Fafnir easier.

I dont even know what you are talking about at the end of this. Paragraph. You get -2/5 Mikeys.



Hey cockmaster, I didnt even use the Screen name Yarr on the VN until after FFXI was released and I made a new Account on the VN. I was also 22 when I did that. I also never ever flamed or bashed anyone when I was a mod. However on my old account I did tease and taunt people all the time. Thats what CKD in DAoC was about. CKD in DAoC was about kicking everyones ass over and over again and rubbing it in their face. Hell thats what DAoC was about. DAoC was all about PvP and trash talking.Much different than the bashing I do in FFXI.
God, bashing in DAoC normally included stupid videos I would make. They were super funny

So stop pretending you know who I am lol you retarded Dr. Phil wanna be.



Actually I created CKD because Pirotess had serious mental issuses. He would bitch and bitch for help. If you ever helped him he never would never say thank you.
To make it worse, if you helped him 10 times in a row but couldnt help him because you had to go take your grand mother to the hostpital he would try to kick you from the linkshell. Then proceed to tell everyone about how you are horrible and never help anyone. Yet he was the one who almost never helped anyone.
CKD was created mostly because Hokuten had a never ending supply of newbies that Pirotess invited into the linkshell. All of them expected help from people like kayne, hcc, ilma and so on. They wanted help just because we were high level and in the same ls as them. People would only go into Hokuten to ask for help, once they got help they went back to their normal ls.
I refused to help pirotess one day because I wanted to level my whm. I had helped him almost ever day for the last week or so and I was sick of it. He then tried to kick me from the shell because of that. I used that opportunity to make the linkshell I had wanted to create since I first started. A linkshell with all the best players. There were also no "High Level" only linkshells.

god, youre facts are nothing more than something you thought up in your head and thought it sounded smart.

this paragraph gets -5,352/5 Mikeys



Clearly you didnt read any of my posts. My point is simple. Zilart is denying he ever used a speed hack. My point is that he did and that FS has always been using hacks. That FS is by far the weakest of all the linkshells. I made this point long ago and Zilart being ban is now my chance to say "I told you so".

Thanks for not reading anything in this thread and writing down whatever you think sounds smart. Your points are all totally off base and are laughable at best.

This paragraph gets -10million/5 Mikeys.




Holy Cockmongers Batman! What the hell are you even trying to say here?
But then again what?
Whats so shocking now?
What the heck does that opening line mean. "This also provides attention, so I'm not sure at all what your goal or purpose is" What kind of line is that. It didnt even make sense. I;ve already told you what my point is a million times. Zilart uses hacks and FS is a pile of human anus'. This isnt rocket science. Although it if was rocket science Im sure you would pretend to understand that too and correct my knowlage of rockets.

I'm going to have a shower I need to wash the stupid away.

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well i guess if you're going to do it, you need to do it right.

we're in Mikey Alert Orange

RUN FOR THE BORDER

u forgot 0/5

J is fired

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Drama. Unfortunatly its everywhere in games at work even in our own families. Its an unavoidable thing. Some people love to be around it. While others are disgusted with it. The best way to deal with dramatic situations is to either not read what is happening (basically ignore it) or leave. Sometimes people feel compelled to read and must get involved in the situations at hand. If you get upset due to a subject at hand its best to try not to read it because its most likly going to get worse. Some rare instances it gets better. I just recommend anyone who doesn't like drama to please feel free and stop reading. I would prefer to not lose players in this game due to drama.

The fact that Shiloh has had these passionate feelings about everything that he has said shows he has really had things he wanted to get off his chest. He just did not want to cause trouble so he kept it pent up inside him (atleast thats what I believe). I do that also and it gets to a point to where I just can't hold it in anymore and I explode. I had a point here. I just forgot it.

All I am trying to say is. Each and everyone of the players in FFXI (That isn't cheating because that is not acceptable at all by any means in any game) should never get so frustrated with the game to where its not fun anymore. I just wish we all could get along and play the game like the creator intended it to be played. While we may struggle on things in the game. It does not mean we have the right to cheat to make things easier for us. I know not many of you probably even know who I am. I am just some no name person trying to shed some light to those of you who don't know already that drama is bad. Try to keep it to a minimum or people whom you like and care about just might get frustrated like Shiloh did. Then leave the game because of it.

BTW I know this is late but Congratulations to you all for Defeating the Dynamis Lord. I was very happy when I heard it. I have to tell you though. I am not surprised at all. I always knew you would be the ones that did it first. Grats again!

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I don't know, but I have a feeling that this thread wont die anytime soon.

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Rein should lock this one like my thread

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dunno the point of locking threads, ppl just gonna cry in a diff one. better to keep it in one spot where you can choose not to click the topic

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Unlocking this thread to make mikey mad



However,



NO MORE OFF TOPIC POSTING IN THIS THREAD

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you need to leave this thread open until zilart gets back from his "vacation" =p

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#1 The GM Conversation Matti Posted

I don't know why anyone needs anymore proof than that. I actually wouldn't expect Zilart to be punished by anyone except a GM because apparently several in FS either don't care if someone is hacking, use hacks themselves, or simply don't want to believe it for whatever reason. Shadowstalker, a fricking FS member himself said it best, if you hack, FU.

#2 The Pic of Zilart Recieving Mazurka

Why is this incriminating?

"So I rushed down to the King Behemoth fight, it was one of the only few times we had fought him so I decided to take a FRAPS of my chat log casting Mazurka on Zilart."

No one else caught that? It just so happened that in the heat of battle that someone decided it was a good idea to get a fraps pic of the chat log in case someone accuses Zilart of speed hacking? Something is really strange about that, by your own admission, you had no knowledge whatsoever as to why you had been jailed or who had reported you at the time of your jailing. I'm not sure how far you can scroll back in combat text anymore but either you were tipped off that someone was under the impression that you were speed hacking or someone let you know flat out that you had been reported

In any instance, if you had wanted that pic to work at all, I'd have had to have seen Mazurka cast a whole lot more than once. I'm not sure of the recast time on it but, it wears of after Job Abilities, getting hit, or casting a spell, so everytime on of those happened... you'd need to refresh it.

#3 Congrats Dalek and Backlash

Seriously though, congrats to both of you, and Reorn as well for getting his Black Belt. I get caught up in this stuff because I'm petty over all the time I spent trying to get this junk and now I see I wasted about 60 days of playing time. Now I'm frustrated for the oldbies that are still playing and no one here or elsewhere can say that, if you were in their shoes, you wouldn't be frustrated as well.

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Ok now you can go back to bashing me on your private forums while calling me a whiny loser... lol

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I have to say something about this. I was at 90%+ CB raids and i think i got 1 piece of AF from them. We did not create our own Dynamis LS until the CB raids were shut down. We did that because we had to if we wanted to continue doing dynamis and i think we have been pretty damn succesful. I dont know about all the FS members concerning getting what they want and leaving but i know i personally was there after i got key items and even AF and i think i pulled my weight so how is that leeching? I did expect an invite to the private raids but it never came and i have to say that i was pretty dissapointed at that time, i felt that i had been an asset to CB and to be just simply looked over did not sit well with me, but they were your private raids and i got over it. I'm glad you guys killed DL and Ket got that Mantle i know he deserves it.

What is this BS about leeching??? if you are doing whatever event and pulling your weight and participating, how the fuck is that leeching? I thought leeching was like getting benefits for not doing fuck all? maybe im wrong, i dunno.

As for the speed hack thing, i wasnt online at the time and seeing this thread is the 1st i heard about it. Do the SS look bad for Zilart? yes they do. Can and do GM's make mistakes? yes they do. But if you want proof beyond a resonable doubt then the GM would have to present his evidence for everyone to see. Is that going to happen? of course not because the GM's are a bunch of Commie bastards who love their power over players, and it has been proven in the past that they have abused the power that they have and they dont justify it and dont feel that they need to. I will not condemn someone without irrefutable evidence which would hold up in a court of law.

GENERAL RANT

For the record FS has acheived everything that we have ever set out to do, We dont expect anyones respect and are really past caring about what most anyone thinks. And by the way we only have like 50 members and not the 100+ that you seem to think we have. Our LS is never full. And there are only like 7 people on the FS boards that have Admin powers. Me being one of them and i rarely have to use the admin tools, and i can see deleted posts by other Admins and im being honest theres very few.

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Nothing but respect for you Salvatore, I'll say that much, and yes, we did screw up the private invite thing, I'll admit that too. There were some long discussions about us needing to let FS know what was up since we were planning on making the private Dynamis raids CKD/FS exclusive, the reason we didn't, the 3 or 4 bad apples that we were pissed at. It's as simple and petty as that, we were childish, we took those people (who know who they are) and let them become the reason to dislike an entire LS.

CKD isn't perfect, duh, neither is any LS out there, hell I'm nowhere near perfect, I was one of those that was like, "Man I really don't mind going Private CKD/FS but so-and-so..." plus there was the resistance to abandoning the public raids which had been a mainstay for such a long time, but was much more rampant with "loot and leavers" yet seemed like our gateway to meeting new recruits and finding out just who are the good players and who are not.

Yeah I type too much.

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thats a very very good point shilly.

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umm we never "shutdown" CB raids at first. we decided to do a few cities for LS members because we were getting pist at ppl winning AF and leaving over dedicated CKD members. then ppl got beligerant because we didnt invite them to a LS raid. ya we asked a few ppl with jobs we needed. but thats the only reason we asked them, because we coulda used a little more of a specific job.

then we got shit from every retarded DRG cuz we didnt have a DRG to lot an AF on a private raid...omgz oh nos. and so began the crying session where everyone felt over looked, when in fact we just wanted to get CKD members the AF they deserved for going since day 1 and hosting the damn things for any NA (at the time was fucking unheard of) to get key item, currency and af2.

oh and i remember us being pist because some retarded FS memebrs kept going on about how they were the staple in our own dynamis haha. way to set it up so that we prove you wrong. other than that we never planned on keeping ppl out of raids, just getting shit for our own. greedy? absolutely not, i know for a fact that before i was in ckd i went to CB raids and was just thankful to go... apparently the oppurtunity was never enough to some. i dont really know how to end this post. so ill just stop =p

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For the reasons that shiloh states, our raids have became private. After it had became private, we had made clear that it is an invitation only, and not limited to our own LS CKD.

We invited people back slowly who seem to have been very loyal to the past raid, who came after they won af, or continue to come after key item. We even have friends from Monarchy attend, who, as you know at that time, we have much LS issues against), we still have people like Myshkal coming to the raid after it too, and pretty sure others have invited some of you guys to attend.

But, most of you jumped the boat and tried your own FS raid, and I guess either because it wasn't too sucessful, or you guys just dont' want to run your own raids anymore, most of you proceed to either go with arthars after a short bits, or other raids. (Seriously I wouldn't have problem if you guys just ran your own raid like TTK does, its can be better for a LS to just do its own shit then have to deal with other people, and also its more to show for. Then again, who the hell am I to judge right, I am nto the one to tell peopel how to run their LS)

It isn't smooth to see how some FS disses JP monopolizing LS like kfc and SO, then goes to an arthar raid. Or having LS members ok with others doing that raid even though they do not like King Monopolizing. That to me is leeching, if not, 1/2 leeching (yea you guys do work and fight like everyone else in that certain raid) not care about current issue or value and standards set upon yourself or your LS mate, yes even in a game. Looting and accomplishment is more important to some of you.

It took me god knows how long to finally to get my full set of blm af2. 1 1/2 year? I won my last 3 pieces in ckd raid, after losing countless time to newcomer blm or ls members (I was like 0/30 on blm af2 pants), and seeing some of them not show up if its a repeating town. Yes I went with aphex's raid long time ago and won my first 2 piece there. If you will consider that leeching, sure. But I, along with some of my ls mates (yarr dionil ilma) attended every raid with them until my LS decided to start hosting our own dynamis, and we made sure that Aphex know about this and he was coo with it. So then on I decided to go from a leeching newbie to a non leeching newbie and host raid with my own LSs.

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Those are two very well put posts, thanks hcc and xiona. I would assume that should clear up any issues people had with us doing LS raids.

I would also like to point out that Fate-Sealers started doing Private raids before CKD did. This was one thing that I really didnt have a problem with so long as they didnt stop supporting the CKD raids. After all it was CKD who taught Fate-Sealers everything they know about Dynamis.

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FYI FateSealers does private raids on Fridays. The other day of the week is up to FS members to choose where to go, some go with Quetzal some go with IceFarmers.

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rofl arn your sig made me laugh

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lol thats awesome

I aim to please ^^

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Awwww sookie-sookie now! Such a long thread.

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Few quick points on dynamis... since somhow this post got derailed.

Yarr, FS did perhaps 2 Bastok raids, while Cheeseburgers was still public. I know this has been clarified to you before, but it was for the sake of fun and to get some members to experience dynamis who were lower level and couldn't make Cheeseburgers due to schedule or it being a very full shell at the time. As you recall, there were many Cheeseburger raids during the middle of the public area where 70+ people would show up. Since you say you don't have a problem with it, I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up in your posts about why you hate FS.

Shiloh, I just wanted to clarify on your original post. FS did not start doing a regular public raid until after CB went private. In fact, Vaelen waited a few weeks after the privitization because of conversations that CKD members had assuring him and others in FS that there would be room for FS people in the raids eventually. I know this, because I did go 2 private CKDFerrows raids prior to Vaelen setting up the FS public raids. I can also say with certainty, that Myskhal and I were the only FS people there, out of about 20 people in FS who used to attend CB regularly. By your own self admission, it was only 3-4 people who you had an issue with, so about 15 people who you didn't have an issue with were left out of a dynamis home.

I just don't understand why FS is getting bashed for starting their own shell when the majority of the linkshell was kicked out of the shell they had been going to for approximately 8 months. Xiona, your point about only inviting people who were needed is exactly why FS decided to do their own shell. As a leader, Vaelen had the choice to see 1-2 of his members be able to go on CKD private or create a new shell, where he could provide a spot for all his members. He chose to take care of his members. This is a bad thing?

Hcc, I think you're misinformed about one point. FS raids were set up to be once a week from the start, and are still going once a week, every Friday. Not gonna argue about success because that's subjective, but no one from FS "jumped ship" to IceFarmers from FS raids, it's just a second raid a week for people who want to do two raids instead of one. As Arn said, some people choose to go to Quetzal or other public raids on Tuesdays and a few people go to other raids, including CKD because Fridays don't work out for them at all.



Couldn't have said it better myself. Insert the proper names for all the FS people who now go to our raids. The only difference was that FS weren't given the choice to leave CB, they were kicked out (along with everyone else). I'm glad Yarr has already agreed to the point. Thanks for making it for me

On the original topic. See Sal's posts for my thoughts on the situation. See Kioto's disgust for why I'm retired from HNM bullshit. The hate in this thread is out of control.

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I don't personally see any problem with FS members going to other Dynamis LS on the half of the week where they don't hold LS raids. Going twice a week in a dedicated LS, while admirable in a sense, is pretty hardcore. I know I certainly got burnt out with Dynamis (And no, I didn't win a single piece of AF2 in like 7 months of attending, so it had nothing to do with looting and leaving), so I'm not going to hold it against them if they only want to plan on event a week.

As for going to Arthar's group for the extra raids, I dunno. I never got into the whole anti-kfc thing as much as some of my other ls mates. I didn't like them at all, but I didn't pay attention to as much of the happenings as others. I was under the impression, however, that Arthars was one of the "less bad" KFC members. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

Either way, this is just a big case of nerds calling other nerds less of a nerd. Whoever wins is still gonna be one. :D

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