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Most overrated game? FFX and FFX-2.

Out of all the games I've ever played (some 3-400), I have never been so diappointed, especially the end. They took the entire FF series and raped it just to mass market it to "everyone else" who had never heard of FF.

dude banjo kazooie was awesome ! haha

id probably have to vote for FFXI...that game blows and it gets way too much attention on this board omg.

Halo and Halo 2 is what popped into my head immediately before the page loaded.

After reading responses, I'd have to agree with WOW as well.

Yes, I can understand a lot of people who play FFXI, and had to watch the playerbase leave for another game believe that game was overrated.

I can also understand a lot of people who play 90% gamecube games, and have never sat down and played Halo multiplayer with more than 7 other people calling the game bad too.

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I think Perfect Dark for N64 was way overrated. Basically a clone of every FPS just with a chick as the main char, a good game, but still way overhyped and way overrated.

played WoW, found it boring and way to easy involving little to no skill. hence why it is way to hyped up and far over rated. its a game you play when you wanna kill 1-2 hours and have to leave right away.

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I never played Halo for very long. Talisin had it for PC and played it and played it online. His opinion was that it was trash (he traded that game and another to get FFXI for PS2 (with HDD lol)). I trust talisin's opinion due to the fact that our taste in Online gaming is the same. Ive been playing multiplayer FPSs since we secretly setup Duke Nukem on the computers at school and played it over the network all the time. My friend also had three computers that we use to play it over that small network.

lol My FPS online evolution was .....


Duke Nukem - Played this over the old netware networks at my high school. I wasnt a nerd back then, just had nerdy friends.
Quake - played this a ton just two player connecting directly using old 14.4 baud modems. This was before they added the ability to play over the internet via TCP/IP. Although I played a ton over the internet once it was released. god help the lag it was horrible lol, but everyone had a ping of 500 back then so no one cared)
Quake II - Never really liked Quake II as much as Quake. I played it a lot but not nearly as much as Quake. I was more into RTMs at this point anyway. Warcraft II, Starcraft and C&C I think were keeping me busy.
Misc Quake Clones - After Quake II was released and the engine was sold to tons of companies I played just a bunch of Quake Clones.
Tribes - Some friends of mine at my old job started playing this (we started late, well after the game was released and a few months before Tribes 2 was released
Tribes 2 - I loved this game. We had BattleCom setup (one of the original Voice Chat programs) for me and my friends from work. My best friend who I always played FPSs with even joined in. He was the one I played over the Modem with. I always played the Pilot and drove people around in tanks or planes. I really loved this game just for the simple fact of having VC and being able to do so much with 4-5 people. This was a big improvment to the FPS games IMO.
Quake 3 Arena - Probably my favorite of all the FPS I played. I just liked the quick action and small maps. This game favored people with really good aim. Unlike most games now that handicap that with bullets that done line up with the cross hairs. Princess and I played this game as if it was a religion for probably a year and a bit. Princess was actually super good and could almost keep up with myself.


anyway im bored so i wrote that. And you can see why I look down at Halo. I consider myself quite the FPS vet.[/list]

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LOL i've never really got into fps until i've played against talisin lol

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Cad, Banjo Kazooie was awesome. I miss Rare games...

To Dinav, someone who just can't seem to comprehend why people wouldn't think Halo is the best thing since sliced bread, I very simply don't like FPS. I have the same mentality as the Japanese on the genre: they're all the same. You go around an environment with a crosshair on the screen, aim, and shoot. What the enemies look like change, the surroundings change, and maybe they'll even add a few silly things like shooting on a vehicle instead of on foot, but the entire concept of an FPS just holds no appeal to me. Furthermore, even if you did enjoy it, PC shooters are generally superior anyway. Mouse and Keyboard > n00bstick

As opposed to FFXI where you spend 2-8 hours sitting in town. Simply because they never chose to balance their classes(hey THF, DRK, DRG, RNG, and SAM....you all have the same job, only some of you suck at it).

There's already more endgame content in WoW than FFXI, with much more frequent content updates with more content added per patch.


And quite simply, I love having more than 4 abilities. There was no skill in FFXI. I alt tabbed in half my XP parties after I SAnTA'd the aggro and came back to pull. High end Dynamis is nothing more than pulling, sleeping and tanking. the other 40-someodd people = do whatever. BCNMs were just ranger/blm loaded groups. The HNMs in WoW are *hard*. Not to provoke bot, but to actually kill! Shock. We don't race other guilds to get there just to tap it and sleep it and wait. If they beat us, chances are they'll wipe(without setting themselves back 3 days of XP grinding).

Yes, getting to 60 is easy, and it SHOULD BE. Who has fun being level 5x and never doing anything remotely "epic" because they have to farm a crab.

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to say all melee jobs are the same dinav, is ignorant. All jobs in ff have very different uses to it. All have different uses but all have the same basic idea to do deal damage.

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GTAs
Halos
WOW

Counter-strike/Counter-strike source

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Except the fact that I quit FFXI not too long after WOW came out...so WTF do I care about losing people from a game I don't even play.



Don't own a Gamecube. Don't own any consoles for that matter. I've been to countless Halo games, most with 16 people (definitely more than 7 other people all the time). I never called the game bad, nor did anybody else in this thread call it bad. There's a difference between being bad and being overrated.

To Feep:
Honestly, I could say that every MMORPG is the same. You level up and level up so you can kill stronger monsters and get better items/armor. The world may change, the classes/jobs may change, the monsters may change, but it's essentially the same games. Not that I don't disagree with you about FPS being the same...but you could say the exact same thing for MMORPGs.

I've gotten back into FPS that I used to play before FFXI, just recently. The thing I like about FPS is that they are just quick games you can play without having to devote time like a MMO. I feel it relieves stress to go and kill other players, where as all FFXI ever did was cause stress from all the linkshell drama and what not. That was just me though, I'm sure you guys are different.

I also like that FPS take a little bit of skill. You gotta be fast and improve at shooters. MMOs are simply hit button 1 for spell 1, hit button 2 for spell 2, hit button 3 for spell 3, repeat. Well at least FFXI is.

And to further comment...I hate controllers.

fps CAUSE stress, for me. i have always sucked with joysticks/analogsticks. plus i always get shot from behind. and people move around too much to get a good aim.

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FPS on consoles are crap.. Halo2 was good for a console FPS, but compared to PC games it isn't up to snuff. Mouse and keyboard is 500000000000 times better than any controller ever. My friend plays Rainbow Six on Xbox Live and refuses to believe that PC players would fucking own the shit out of him. No way you could beat someone with a mouse with a controller... you need that lame ass aim assist crap to even compete but still its a joke. If you want to play FPS just play them on PC.

Most overrated game of all time is Mortal Kombat. Game got by on blood and gore factor despite its comparably crappy gameplay to the other fighting games of its time (SF2 and the SNK fighters).

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Haha, so true. My friends are the same way, they think that controllers are better than on a PC. And that's the reason I never got any consoles, I hate controllers.

You could say that about any genre :P Play Doom 3, play Counter Strike, play Halo and play Unreal and you got 4 completely different game. Yes you have a gun and you shoot thing, but hell, it's like saying "ALL RPG ARE THE SAME CAUSE THEY HAVE MENU TO INPUT COMMAND"


And about keyboard vs mouse thing, I personally don't care :P I prefered playing Halo with controller, but it might just be the fact I played for 1year and half with one before moving to PC.

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Urza, I was quoting you as the placeholder for a general idea of the comments I was replying to, not to single you out. I don't care when you quit FFXI, but that's plainly WHY most FFXI players don't like WoW.

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"I don't like FPS, so they suck" No.

In the same regard, all Japanese RPGs have been the same. Either turn based or time based with magic/melee/enhancement/healing classes with spikey hair in a fantasy world with an unfolding storyline rotating around a large center figure with powerful underlings who is in control of either government, underground organizations, or opposing armies.

Comparing the use of a M4 in FPSs is the same as comparing the use of the Fire spell in every RPG.

And no, I don't think Halo was the greatest FPS ever. Halo 2 WAS overrated. The problem is, most of the posters here HAVE PLAYED NEITHER.

Most people who trashed WoW have not played it, and have definately not played it through end-game instances.

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Well, you could go on and say every genre is the same...platformers are the same because you can always jump, and so forth. In FPS, however, I don't feel as if I'm doing something NEW every time I boot another one up. I start off with some guns, and go around, and look for things to shoot, and click the mouse. The difference in gamplay between FPS is the lowest of any genre, and believe it or not, there are very, VERY few RPGs made today that follow the tried-and-true menu-based time-frozen combat. At least in an RPG (or in the case of FFXI, MMORPG), there's a well-developed story to enjoy, and endearing characters to latch onto. And no, don't go telling me that Halo has a good storyline. Half-Life 2 gets an honorable mention, but that's it.

Once again, this is a matter of personal preference in the end, and I'm obviously in the minority of the planet when I say I don't enjoy the genre. But don't be amazed when I don't drool over some pathetic viral marketing campaign for Halo 3.

As tempting as it is to dive into the WoW debate, I'll refrain. :P

A lot of the big-name games have already been listed, so I'm gonna throw something out there that was overrated, but perhaps not on the same level.

Kartia.

I bought this game for the PSX, 'cause I was a huge fan of FFT and the old Shining Force series. Kartia has the same chess-like battle system of FFT and SF, and it had art done by the guy who did the FFVI art. It had tons of great reviews and all sorts of positive publicity. So I buy the game, and it's a flaming piece of shit.

It's not a piece of shit because of it's graphics, it's game engine, or anything like that. It's a piece of shit, because it is the epitome of linear. If they had random encounters (Like FFT and SF2), allowed some way to escape and redo a fight (SF series allowed you to do this, so long as at least one monster/the boss was still alive), or something, it'd be way better.

It basically had no replay value, and you coulnd't really experiment with your summoned monsters all that much. It had a ton of potential, and I could see why people raved about the aspects they did, but they all ignored that key part to the game. heh

Sadness

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yea all football games are wayyy overrated, considering that like 6 of the top 10 video game sales are always football, and no football game has been any good since tecmo bowl

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TECMO BOWL!

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