Its pretty ignorant thing to say Ponuh. I mean sure you wouldnt be interested in a Pokemon. That doesnt mean that other people above the age of 8 wouldnt.

Pokemon is a franchise over 10 years old (it was launched in Japan in 1996). The game is aimed for "everyone" but really we all know they were going after the younger grade school to high school kids.

Well that was 10 years ago. People who fell in love with that franchise back then are 10 years older now (or 8 if you live in the US). They could quite easily make a pokemon game that aimed at the teen age gamers while still being enjoyable for older gamers. Its not a bad target, I mean, thats how Blizzard did it. they appealed to the high school casule players (or so I always felt they did, so yeah its not fact) hence getting so many kiddie gamers in wow.

Pokemon is a HUGE franchise.

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RIP Shiloh

Well...Madi....when we (Sentinels) merged with Elysa's friends LS, Elysa began using us to help camp/kill chit for her friends. If certain members were camping something.....Elysa made decisions to have some of her friends come to camp and lot the equipment that dropped, never mind that they never dedicated any time camping the focker. She basically just used us like a condom and threw us away when we were done..while her friends got their rocks off. BAH!!!!

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I'm glad I am not the only guy who plays mithra who did this, of course i still play it and im working on merits now ><



My LS history is nothing big

Got some LS as a noob, no clue what it was called, but Elynor was in it.
Then i went to ZilartSoldiers, and i stuck with that until they merged with Foot clan to make PEG, which was just a big old pile of shit.

Then i got into JoS, and i loved my time in that shell and the people i met.

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The pokemon games have always had hidden depths you wouldn't even know about unless you did some hardcore searching. Avoloc once gave me a 45 minute lecture on the many hidden features of the original pokemon red/blue while the linkshell looked on in shock and horror. As yarr noted there's not just the capturing but the main draws are raising and trading to customize your team. There's an element system to it like FFXI, it works in a circle, along with forces outside the circle like my aforementioned asskickerly psychics, so customization and variety in your team is important when playing against people, whether npc in game or friends on a link cable. Your guys will develop differently according to what monsters you fight them against to get them exp, they'll develop differently depending on what level you catch them at, and they develop differently when acquired through a trade. You can also screw with their evolution to, for example, keep their speed higher than their fully evolved incarnation.

Where they really hit gold with the games is the forced community. In each generation they always release at least 2 games and each game has monsters unique to that version, so in order to get all of them you have to trade with friends. Certain monsters only evolve after being traded (such as graveller to golem!) so in order to get the full experience, you have to do a lot of community play whether cooperative (trading) or competitive (fighting). It's a fact, the games are really fucking good, especially for people who like endless levelling. With a main team of 6 and a possible 150+ monsters to level up you're pretty much set even if you're a goddamn FFXI 75x18 player, lol, and as long as you have a friend with the other version then you're really set.

and yeah also as yarr said you never level up your actual character you just level up your monsters.

and I was joking about leveling rdm for hotpants

eff you guys.

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This might get long, so I bolded the LS names for those who want to skip the wall of text.

Started 3 years ago in an LS called Ifrit-something... forgot what the name was exactly. It had people like Durga, MrByte (i think), and some other people. It was one of those n00b LSs, at that time. Though the shells like FS was around then i believe. After that broke up, I got perl to a social shell MyByte and some of his friends were on, PizzaNinjas.

Then after I got my first characters to a decent lvl. I joined my first HNM shell, ZilartSoldiers. As with all/many of this kind it had its drama etc. Being a BLM back then I guess i was a little malcontent as some mages are since we get nothing or litle from SKY really. Also, i create waves almost everywhere I do. For the main reason, I don't and never have put up with bullshit, in any form. Also, my diplomacy level is like 0%... or close. So alot of people got rubbed pretty coarse. And the voice that tells you when to pick fights and when not to... mine died at childbirth. My linkshell has always been first priority to me, inspite of my manner. Starting with disagreeing with the LS leader on certain things, began to get certain treatment, in addition to certain other conflicts... eventually I was kicked out.

Then I looked around a bit and applied to and joined ZeroEffect. This place I found a great comfort, it was full of good people and a leader, Kailix, who seemed to care a great deal about the linkshell's best interest as well as that of everyone in it.

I was into the game hardcore then, and my characters made alot of progress. Eventually i started doing dynamis with FateSealers. Then applied and joined FateSealers a while after. Much of the same happened here, alot of people didn't like when i spoke up... which was often. People actually threw fits over disagreement with me (get under skins pretty good). Eventually shortly after the leader Vaelen left, I would openly voice my disdain/disagreement for things people like DustDevil would do.. like MPKin at HNM camps (which i refused to take part in and voiced i would not come to camp if our members would do such things). I was kicked not long after.

After this I wentt back to ZeroEffect (i had kept the perl to say hi occasionally). As mentioned by MasterG, ZeroEffect eventually became PhoenixDown as it entered the HNM/Sky scene. Here I pushed alot of initiatives and ideas and earned the respect of many... however as mentioned before, my manner is quote abbrasive, and whiners and complainers are never in short supply. I was "considered" like an officer to many in the shell, but without the actual status. When I asked about this, I was told "If you got sac'd, alot of people would leave". Well, I then decided that if whiners determined the leadership roles, this was not the place for me.. inspite of caring a great deal about the linkshell. I left and just floated around without a shell for a bit.

I applied to a few places like, Quetzal, and the then named ThoseWhoWill. I was accepted, but when I was perled the shell had just changed leadership and was renamed to Reborn. This shell was pretty good, led by Akima, the players knew thier stuff well enough. Not all... but was ok. But still, more of the HNM shell drama. I was in here for a while, as as usual always took the initiative on things and was sac'd after ashort while. But as always... no shortage of whiners over not liking "how keston does things". After being approached about it by the leader, I said that I'd prefer to be de-sac'd adn carry on as a regular member because I wasn't going to change and whiners would keep on doin just that. Eventually the leader got fed up of begging people etc to show up to events and passed on leadership. The shell was then renamed to HonorGaurd. Digger was the leader now. Not the brightest of the bunch, but competent enough and seemed to care about the shell.

As mentioned many times, my big mouth doesnt stay closed. There were people who left the shell to join Melior... but would come back on the perl trying to recruit our members for Melior. I told Digger this, he apparently didnt or didnt want to believe me. Also I saw an app from someone in our shell on another site, and noted in the linkshell when this person was asking for help with YY-Robe, that I saw no reason to get them one when they were planning to leave us. In the reform, Bewolfe (yes, the cocksucker pervert everyone hates) was made an officer and was contantly "whispering" in the leader's ear. I didn't like him, and made that clear. Anyhow, eventually I was kicked from there (i provoked this one intentionally...). Funny enough, all the good peopel from the shell was smuggled off to melior by the person who tried to recruit me to it when I was still in the shell, right under the leader's nose.

After that I roamed about again, just doin my own thing. Then applied to Quetzal again, JoS (maybe), and hmm... some other shell. Denied.

So I started thinking.. do i really want to be back in those situation again? No. Keston, no matter where you you, there will ALWAYS be the bitchers and whiners standing on the sidelines. How can you avoid this. Put yourself in a position where it doesn't matter, where you make policy, and have a free hand to do and carry out the vision that always seem to be derailed by whiners. I decided to make my own shell, a place where the effort determined what you had a right to, and where everyoone's personality, regardless of who had complaints, would be welcome. No bullshit, fairness, and to show what dedication really was. I made my own linkshell, SupaNova.

Started with some of the people from my social shell, and some friends also. The rest, i put my foot to pavement so to speak. Shouted in jeuno for days on end. The plan, was to infuse the shell with as many peopel as I could find and weed out the selfish and greedy in time. It worked. The shell started to grow and prosper, as as tiem went on, I quickly identified the selfish people as they came/passed thru and called this bullshit before it hit the ground. I created a point system, that was fair, and tweaked it as we went. Always keeping in mind what was fair to all in the shell. You put in time/effort, you had priority. For the first 6-7 months (after wiping to Olla first time in sky, haha... fun still) we had 0 losses to any god. I was very proud of them. Being a person on tactics and preperation, I'd spend hours explaining stuff to people. Most were sky/hnm n00bs, and had never fought a god or hnm. We had some veterans tho. I also provided meds with my own gil to start, as well as silent oils etc for those who needed. Here I led by example, giving everything for my linkshell and others did the same. It was a great feeling that feeling of family developed though our experiences, and any member would do anything for thier ls-mate.

However after 9-month, well.. I started to get tired. Doing most of the organizing and administration. It was taking over my life, time-wise. People didn't want to take part in events if i wasn't leading them, which put more pressure on me as I always wanted them to happen. I hated the feeling of someoen being let down because others wouldn't show up. Anyhow, big come to small... i decided that my linkshell being everything, i would never leave them for another. So my only way out was to quit the game. Sort of as expected, soon as I announced that, everyone started leaving the shell... some tried to keep it goin, but it didn't work out. I kid you not, the amount of stuff I did for my linkshell was not funny, big shoes to fill. So don't really blame anyone. I sold all my stuff.. but my LS always wanted a dynamis shell. So 1-month before I left, I put in more footwork and started shouting etc again and made a dynamis shell, Redemption. So anyhow, sold all my stuff and left the gil behind (62+M) as a "dynamis fund" to fund free runs for however long. A gift that would keep on giving so to speak.

Big Ups and Shout Outs to some of the best players I've known who were a part of my shell (there are others):
Nymph, Giglamesh, Lokiseinn, Feanaro, Brolli, Ragingbull, Siran, Damion, Mcmk, Aurara (emotional, but a really good kid.. knows his shit), Kristopher, Mrpopo, Cainn, Shakuras, Monet. Even though some didn't always see eye to eye with me, have always had my utmost respect.

Also forgot to mention, regardless of who or how much people don't like them.. I've always had he utmost respect for linkshell leaders. Its not an easy task as I now know firsthand. So people like Yarr, Grimblade, Tobatobu, Joeyatlas, Akima, Kailix, Vaelen, and whoever else.. inspite of not always liking or agreeing with many things you might do or have done: /salute. Its not an easy road.

keston,
when were you in zilart soldiers? (like month/year)? Cause i feel i remember seeing you there when i was there
although i dont remember any drama in ZS

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Yea Whisp, you were in ZS when I was. That's where i know you from. Remember Keston and Kestion being in the same shell? Both PLDs at the time... that was fun.

Toward the time before I left there was drama... not as much as say FS, but enough. Thing about when they insist you not argue on the LS, some don't see the drama if they don't witness it first-hand. A month or so after that they merged with whomever to become PEG.

Not sure if it was ZS that Mirza was in way back. Before he left and got leadersip in Hokuten or something. Anyone remember?

This by itself would KILL the game. RMT would just catch and train all the best pokemon to max level and trade them to all the rich spoiled kids who GOTTA HAVE EM ALL!!!

Lets face it, Pokemon will appeal to kids mainly. Adding to the fact that the whole idea of the game is get get the strongest, rarest, and most diverse collection of pokemon. Goldfarmers will realize this super early and just monopolize and train all the best pets. Whats stopping them from turning around and selling them to all the kids who get hardons for max level Dragonair?

I never said pokemon was a bad idea because i played them all up untill Ruby, (and i plan on getting diamond when it comes out.) I just think its a great game with characteristics that would make it a HORRIBLE mmo.

Edited for clarity.

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I plan on getting pearl. Maybe we can wi-fi trade ( *'-')b

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Umm do you guys realize that not every MMO has problems like FFXI Right?

FFXI has a horrible game design. This horrible design is the reason RTM is so bad. It would be quite easy to do.

Ive played like 3-4 MMOs and FFXI is the only one that has major RTM problems. I mean gil buying in WoW is bad, but it doesnt effect the general public in the same way it does in FFXI.

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Yah... FFXI is truly capitalistic, but it needs some restraints. No reason certain items should cost what they do. I think S-E should have put a price cap on how much items sell for.

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The price of items is the direct result of SE puting such an extreme limit on the avilibilty and accessibility of that item.

All S-E has to do is add problem items to lesser NMs. The problem is they feel that this would degrade the quality of the item. This is pretty much a problem of it being a Japanese based MMO.

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Or, (which makes the most sense to me) Is to add items that are better at level 75. I think it is stupid that most jobs AF2 cant even hang with the stats of (lv59) Haubergeon, or (Lv34) Ochioudo's Kote. Adding better armor at higher levels wouldnt break the game, and it would cause the high demand for lower level crap to devalue.

I like how WoW handles their itemization.

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I enjoy WoW's itemization, too. Sucks that both games have things that I want.

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I post here so infrequently, oh my God!

I started a few months later than the rest of the "old folks" but I tried to keep pace as much as I could.

Anyway, when I was like, level 8, I was invited to some linkshell that didn't do anything, didn't say anything, nothing. I don't recall the name of the linkshell because I threw it out roughly 10 minutes later to make space in my bag.

Around level 30 I joined a linkshell called Rarehunters. It was run by a BLM named Haknoras. Cool guy, ok linkshell, just kind of quiet.

After that, I moved to TheEchelon around level 50ish, I spent a pretty good amount of time there getting AF, helping people with AF, leveling a lot, etc.

Around level 60, I started hanging out more in Nemesis, led by Iain. It was a nice linkshell. We got shit done, but I had pretty quickly outleveled most of the people in ther, and left.

I was doing San d'Orian missions around level 64. I had met Nesson there, and we started chatting. I said, "Hey, give mea Hokuten pearl." ...and he did. I stayed in Hokuten for a while, and CKD was formed.

Yarr approached me and traded me a pearl out in Qufim. If I remember correctly he was powerleveling Azn on his MNK. I held onto both my Nemesis and Hokuten pearls for a while, hopping back and forth, but as things got more serious in CKD, I just got rid of the pearls.

I stayed in CKD for a long time, doing the things we did; however things just... didn't work out more or less. I had been given a fatesealers pearl by Vaelen and hung out in there as a social shell. I met a lot of people there and it was a good time. I'm pretty sure I also got a pearl from Angie called "It's only a game" or something like that during this time as well.

After a huge uproar of drama between a few linkshells at a Nidhogg, I quit the HNM scene for a while. I retreated to a small social ls headed by Lazyazn called Littlegarden. I stayed there for about 2 or 3 months, just hanging out and working on other jobs.

Eventually I came back to FS where I was until I stopped playing.

FallenPandas!

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Hey guys, long time no see. finals are kicking my ass. I have one more final where I get to compare Nietzsche and John Stuart Mill, w00t w00t.

Denchi's LS History

I worked at Gamestop when the game came out, and one of my coworkers wouldn't stop talking about ffxi, so i got it the day it came out with a friend of mine. It was my first mmo ever so, naturally, i played the first day then got bored. My buddy played hardcore for about 1 month and got his samurai to like level 31, which was really good for that amount of time. I started up again after about a month and he quit. when I started up again I ended up doing a few nub sandy missions with hextavo. he got marsen to come give me a ZilartSoldiers pearl. ZilartSoldiers was really the perfect nub linkshell. Marsen helped me get my subjob items and a few other things (while boasting about his newly acquired penta-thrust) and it was cool. But right around that time Marsen and Nippler didn't spend much time in ZS, they had that white pearl. I leveled up fast and eventually i was the highest level in ZS and got kinda bored. I was a total nub and would bother Marsen for help a lot, at one point he snapped at me and i took it poorly, so I left ZS with Hextavo.

From then on I had a lot of diff links......but eventually I wound up in Hokuten. I just wanted to level up and be better, but as soon as i joined, maybe a week later the CKD split happened. The only memory i have before the split was a mass suicide in lower jeuno where yarr kept trying to raise people. he obviously didn't get it.

Anyways I liked mikey and yarr and stuff, i didn't have a problem with them. I applied to ckd but I was still a 61pld nub, and Yarr denied me (he was still real nice to me about it, though) So I stuck with Hokuten. After that a lot of my good friends quit. Galstron, Hextavo, Blace, etc. And I was going off to college soon so i just quit. As I quit I decided to sell my account to see if i could get some $$$. I wasn't smart about it, but I also didn't really care, so I posted my player on ffxiauction or something with my name in clear sight. Someone posted it on the ckd forums and the Denchi-hating hasn't stopped since. I took it down right away just because i guess i just didn't care enough to repost it correctly. I really didn't get why all of ckd ganged up on my after trying to sell my account, people in ckd sold their accounts too. but it was just easier to pick on a nub galka about it. Anyways, I've been a little defensive ever since. I just thought it was so lame that people even gave a shit about what i did when there were plenty of other things to worry about.

So I quit, Denchi was lost (61pld, 56drg). But I came back after my first semester at college. I was home in MN and bored out of my mind during the break. As soon as I restarted I tried saying hi to Yarr, but he wasn't gonna be nice to me. I saw Wain around KRT one day and he had been in my perma for a little while before I quit. He put in a good word and I got into TheMonarchy as a total nub without a subjob.

Monarchy was ok. I liked most of the people in it. Murph, Oni, Wain, Mysteryman, Traye, etc. And I didn't care about the CKD monarchy drama, i was too low of level to really be involved. BUt I stuck with Monarchy even after i hit 75mnk. Aiame was a short-fuse. I got kicked once for about a week. Mysteryman had gotten a peacock charm drop one night, and I was chatting with Hathfuri. I told Hath that "MM got peacock charm tonight, that's awesome." Hath congratulated MM. MM then said on ls chat that Hath knew he got drop, and Aiame kicked me for giving ToD's.

Nobody in Monarchy was on my side, I barely wanted to come back, but I did.

Back in Monarchy the whole Aiame thing happened. I knew Aiame was a bitch/bastard, I knew he was probably hoarding LS gil, but I honestly didn't care. He ran a good linkshell and I couldn't have cared less about the V.Claw drop money or whether he was a she or whatever. Honestly most people didn't care, only a few people pried and turned it into a big thing.

Some of the people in Monarchy were just really stand-offish. One of my biggest pet-peeves were people who, if you said hello to them, wouldn't even say hello back, or were too cool to ever be nice. Cyix, Obelisk, Kalix, etc. And I absolutely HATED Ero and Obie and Jedix. anyways.... I just steered clear of them.

I was real busy IRL but I made all the events I could and stayed quiet and did my job. But all I ever got was shit from Ero and Obie etc. I'd offer to tank adds while sky farming as Mnk/Nin but they would just tell me I was a nub and couldn't do it correctly. I never fought back because i didn't wanna be an asshole, so to them that basically meant "Pick on me! I'm a total pushover!" But i stuck with it, I decided they could be mean to me as long as they were fair.

Monarchy got a lot of new members after about a year and we all started doing sky. After about 5 or 6 runs I was hoping to get a pair of Haidate for my Mnk. I had gotten Shura Body, Legs, Head, and Hands all as rot. Genbu's Shield as an auto-sort, and a kirins pole for my mnk. All througout sky I passed on Genbu's kabuto, kote, etc. Zaphod got 2 peices of god gear for his nin in one run, but i didn't say anything because i really didn't care. The only time I EVER spoke up was when Haidate's were going to brand new players in the linkshell, and to Rng's and War's. I finally brought it up in LS chat and I got reamed. I was accused of XPing during LS events, never showing up, etc etc. None of it true........so I just got pissed. The people who I thought would be fair (Noodlebrain mainly) were against me too. So as they were breaking my pearl I dropped it.

Wow, this is long, no one's gonna read this. There's my source of FFXI bitterniss lol.

Now I'm in Exilium. It's fine. I'm one of the more advanced players. I'm getting kinda bored. But the people in it are fun, so that's cool. I'm just doing my thing, having fun. Helping where I'm needed.

The End.

Just read all of Keston's post, I remember seeing him along the way a few times, first off in ZS when I think he was slightly higher level than me but neither of us were 75, I was always trying to catch up.

Yea he was definitley someone to speak his mind which while is worthy of respect in many cases, it just caused too much friction between people. You did apply to JoS and denied but to be honest I think it was for the best, some members had big problems with you from the past and your attitude (which I'm not gonna say is a really bad one to have, just difficult) and it was a rocky time for the shell, you would have probably helped to capsize it lol, that's what the leaders would have used to decide so it's all for the best.

Making your own shell was probably the best way to get what you you were looking for, just a shame you didn't think of it earlier eh?

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The few times I met obelisk he seemed like an alright dude, we randomly teamed up for each other's parade gorgets. He passed the one that dropped on one of my gob drinks too. Besides that I partied with his bst once with onimusha and damyu and later on when I was leveling my pld he did some crazy beastmaster shit to get rid of a link my pt had while he was hanging around boyahda.

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Denchi im sad you didn't even mention madi being your buddy in monarchy <3 I was never against you! And i gave you a good reccomendation when you applied to jos too (( i think i did. . .lord I cant even remember lol mandos if i posted something bad about him do not post it. . . hahaha ))

Obelisk is a cool dude, he was always kinda snobby about BST with me but thats only because I was lvlng it up and it was kind of a big brother little brother type of thing, lol

cyix though, I said before that he was always passive. meaning never spoke much, no personality to speak of, and I dont think he cared about much of anything lol. I could be wrong but how would anyone ever know if the guy never talks lol

Oh and as for obie and ero, I was good friend with both of them (( still am with ero )) but admittedly the two of them put together were major bitches lol. They always was going off about someone or something or another, I didn't see much of it until i got sick of monarchy's aiame drama and stopped going to LS events, and then they bitching me out for it lol. I think my last words to monarchy was something liek " Screw you guys, your LS is doomed and fucked. lol " though i was friends still with alot of them, and I dont like leaving LS on a bad note, but for some reason monarchy just took too long to recooperate from the aiame bomb, and at that point in time I just didn't feel like dealing with it.

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It was good reading your story Denchi. Lol, the account selling fiasco part made me laugh irl. I don't blame ya at all, its your right. I may not do it myself, but can't say it hasn't crossed my own mind when i decided to put this game behind me too. Anyhow, just wanted to /wave to ya bud. I remember Denchi from back in ZS and he's one of the nicer and competent people I've known.

And yea Mandos, my leadership has always been very strong and coarse. And even some who don't like my way follow me still, as respect is a great thing to wield in-spite of someone liking your method/manner or not. Some people in my shell I treated horribly looking back, but still I could tell they loved me, and stuck with me throughout everything till the end. I remember I was an ass to Monet alot of the time cuz she was always annoying me... always kept trying to be my best friend, sending me like 50 /tells during every event. But from start to finish, was there when I/we needed her when online.

They earned my respect and love for much more, but at the very least for putting up with me and having the strength of mind to see/understand beyond my rough surface.

And I think if I had decided to make my own shell alot sooner, it might of been one of the greater ones, providing it didn't fall apart on the way. Timing can be a very funny and sometimes fragile thing.

keston. . . .werent you that guy who left my really good merit pt to go defend al zahbi from the fugly trolls or whatever was invading at that time? lol /still annoyed with you about that

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Yep. I prioritize the greater good over a lil xp for myself. When we lose the AC, it sux to have to walk 15mins when you get ported that far from jeuno, sux to have to take a 10-20min boat ride to go to an xp camp, sux to get 15% less xp (no bonus), no chocobo, etc. We all bear the responsibility to do our part and not be selfish... I do mine. The loss is much more than the gain if we lose the AC. You apparently thought a lil xp mattered more than something that affects the entire server negatively.