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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:29 pm 
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(CNN) -- A lone gunman is dead after police said he killed at least 21 people Monday during twin shootings on the Virginia Tech campus -- the worst school shooting incident in U.S. history.

"Some victims were shot in a classroom," university police Chief Wendell Flinchum said during a news conference in Blacksburg.

Police believe there was only one gunman, Flinchum said.

"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said university President Charles Steger. "The university is shocked and indeed horrified." (Map of Blacksburg)

The attacks mark the worst school shooting incident in U.S. history. In 1999, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris killed 12 students and a teacher before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado.

The Associated Press quoted officials saying more than 20 were wounded. A hospital spokeswoman told AP that 17 Virginia Tech students were being treated for gunshot wounds and other injuries.

Sharon Honaker at the Carilion New River Valley Medical Center told CNN that four patients had been transported there, one in critical condition.

One person was killed and others were wounded at multiple locations inside a dormitory about 7:15 a.m., Flinchum said. Two hours later, another shooting at Norris Hall, the engineering science and mechanics building, resulted in multiple casualties, the university reported. (Watch police, ambulances hustle to the scene )

The first reported shooting occurred at West Ambler Johnston Hall, a four-story co-ed dormitory that houses 895 students. The dormitory, one of the largest residence halls on the 2,600-acre campus, is located near the drill field and stadium.

Amie Steele, editor-in-chief of the campus newspaper, said one of her reporters at the dormitory reported "mass chaos."

The reporter said there were "lots of students running around, going crazy, and the police officers were trying to settle everyone down and keep everything under control," according to Steele.

Kristyn Heiser said she was in class about 9:30 a.m. when she and her classmates saw about six gun-wielding police officers run by a window.

"We were like, 'What's going on?' Because this definitely is a quaint town where stuff doesn't really happen. It's pretty boring here," said Heiser during a phone interview as she sat on her classroom floor.

Student Matt Waldron said he did not hear the gunshots because he was listening to music, but he heard police sirens and saw officers hiding behind trees with their guns drawn.

Student reports 'mayhem'
"They told us to get out of there so we ran across the drill field as quick as we could," he said.

Waldron described the scene on campus as "mayhem." (Watch a student's recording of police responding to loud bangs )

"It was kind of scary," he said. "These two kids I guess had panicked and jumped out of the top story window and the one kid broke his ankle and the other girl was not in good shape just lying on the ground."

Madison Van Duyne said she and her classmates in a media writing class were on "lockdown" in their classrooms. They were huddled in the middle of the classroom, writing stories about the shootings and posting them online.

The university is updating its 26,000 students through e-mails, and an Internet webcam is broadcasting live pictures of the campus.

The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported.

Last August, the first day of classes was cut short by a manhunt after an escaped prisoner was accused of killing a security guard at a Blacksburg hospital and a sheriff's deputy.

After the Monday shootings, students were instructed to stay indoors and away from windows, police at the university said.

"A gunman is loose on campus. Stay in buildings until further notice. Stay away from all windows," read a warning from the university.

"Virginia Tech has canceled all classes. Those on campus are asked to remain where they are, lock their doors and stay away from windows. Persons off campus are asked not to come to campus," a statement on the university Web site said.

Holy shit my friend Doug used to go to VaTech. This is the most people killed at an American college campus ever. Really horrible, at least the gunman is dead now making the 22nd person dead. A co-worker of mine's son used to go there as of last semester, he transferred back to UNF just recently. She is glad he didn't keep going there.

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Do they know if the guy was related to the school or anyone there in any way?

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Yea, it's up to 30 now. With like, 28 more people injured and 4 more in critical condition.


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Thats insane. Sunshine and I saw this on TV but I thought it was only one person who got shot.

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This is...beyond fucked up.


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yea man that sucks. some citizens just aren't responsible enough to own guns.

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This is the most disturbing news story i've heard in a very, very long time. It's very upsetting to me for some reason.


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I'm amazed it was done with a .22 and a 9mm. MSN has a cell phone vid of the thing

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here is that vid http://break.com/index/virginia_tech_sc ... oting.html

Sounds like officers exchanging fire but im not sure.

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I, for one, am fucking scared and want to move back to FL.

This shit never happened in FL. Ever. Not where I lived. I think the most that happened was a kid got suspended for having a knife on campus.

I wanna cry. It gave Snaake's parents a near-heart attack because his 19yr old brother goes to VA tech.

He had late classes and was sleeping when this all happened, tho, but it's got to be a shock. Fucking horrible.


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I, for one, am fucking scared and want to move back to FL.

This shit never happened in FL. Ever. Not where I lived. I think the most that happened was a kid got suspended for having a knife on campus.

I wanna cry. It gave Snaake's parents a near-heart attack because his 19yr old brother goes to VA tech.

He had late classes and was sleeping when this all happened, tho, but it's got to be a shock. Fucking horrible.


It doesn't happen anywhere and that's why this is so shocking haha


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nothing i can really say other than shit sucks.. wow..

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supposedly this occurred over a breakup >.<

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Well now i can understand people being scared if they have family or friends at VT.

But the news here talks to people at local college's and they whine and say they are scared as if this wasn't an isolated event, sometimes i get the feeling terrorism is working to well, and all the crap we shows on the news proves it. i can see it now.

<Terrorist group member> look boss, we didn't do anything and all these people are scared!
>Terrorist group leader> haha yea look at the whole country, for all of our previous actions they are timid as rabbits!
<Terrorist group member> well what should we do next? this is fun!


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Lets take some bets, someone mentioned it was over a breakup, but how many days until the media blames GTA or Marilyn Manson.

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this person was the biggest pussy in recent history. Shooting thirty+ people for whatever reason is as ball-less as as punhcing a fat dyslexic retard in wheelchair.

its just my obersvation, in the 70's there was the Kent state shooting where i believe about 5-6 people died. It was a goddamn national outrage, people were doin all kinds of shit to protest againts violence. its 2007 33 people get shot and die, and its almost deemed the monthly norm, people are only shocked by the high number of casualties.

Mass shootings, imo, have increased steadily since america adopted is increasing stance on poltical correctness. Cant say this to someone b/c of that, cant do this b/c someone will be offended, etc. more and more retards are becoming disassociated human psycopaths becuase they have no other outlet to express themselves without being ignored except for violence.


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when i heard this happened, i figured it was probably related to some kind of young love story gone bad.

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I think when people see something like this happen at a college, it almost loses its shock value. I mean, living in dorms they dont even give you windows that can open for fear that someone wont kill themself come finals.

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They released the identity of the shooter. Probably old news, but I don't have time to keep up on this stuff all day. I'm on campus at ASU right now.... I just hope there isn't another kid among the 60,000 students scratching his head and thinking "hmm.... that's a good idea...."

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Yeah he was a Korean kid that came to the states in 1992. Really quiet and a loner (this seems to be a common thread). I read he called his classmates "deceitful", "charlatans" and all sorts of other fun stuff. He had chains and locks with him and wore a bulletproof vest supposedly. This seems premeditated, so it looks like he didn't so much as snap. He had this brewing for a while. Some said he was looking for his girlfriend, but that would conflict rumors of him being a loner. It has also been said he was a stalker.

The authorities are looking at his PC from what I understand. I wonder if they will find any FPSs or games for John Thompson to go off about. I really fucking hate him and Dr. Phil for jumping on this without knowing whether the kid played games or what. There were murderers way before video games, rock music, movies and TV existed. Someone needs to give these asshats a memo.

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Denchi, when you say "another kid", are you implying that you're thinking it's a good idea also?

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lol Eternus i loved reading your post aloud to my roomate since she is watching doctor phil right now, such a worthless show.

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this person was the biggest pussy in recent history. Shooting thirty+ people for whatever reason is as ball-less as as punhcing a fat dyslexic retard in wheelchair.

its just my obersvation, in the 70's there was the Kent state shooting where i believe about 5-6 people died. It was a goddamn national outrage, people were doin all kinds of shit to protest againts violence. its 2007 33 people get shot and die, and its almost deemed the monthly norm, people are only shocked by the high number of casualties.

Mass shootings, imo, have increased steadily since america adopted is increasing stance on poltical correctness. Cant say this to someone b/c of that, cant do this b/c someone will be offended, etc. more and more retards are becoming disassociated human psycopaths becuase they have no other outlet to express themselves without being ignored except for violence.


agreed 100%

In a world that promotes pc attitude with individualism and "you're special" in a person, and yet that person has to survive through college where they are just a student number to many, and about as important as the next wage earner in an already overpopulated isolated society I also sadly predict more occurances like this as DD mentioned that mass shooting have increased steadily. Virginia Tech just happened to be the location of this incident but I'm sure we all agree that unlike 9/11 where terrorists were targeting specific locations, an incident like this could occur anywhere. I remember newscasts about people fired from jobs walking in and doing this, psychos walking into malls and other populated areas, Columbine High School, etc. etc.

I mention we're over-populated because to many of us this is a story, It affects us but not to the point for many of us to really change or mold our daily lives around this situation. I mentioned we're isolated because how many people out there truly know your neighbors, the people that live around you? I just see them as "people that live near me" and I rarely talk to them and even then it is brief conversation.

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Many of us are apathetic to this and we are out for only us and our families. We have isolated ourselves. Sure we are productive citizens in society, but yet may of us are un-involved with much else after we get home from work. Think how many customer service numbers are automated messages, how sometimes people text your phone yet never pick it up when you call, how e-mail lately whether it be spam or from an individual that you only keep in touch via e-mail only strangely feel similar. Speaking to a living, breathing human is next to impossible in many of these circumstances and the room for error and misdirection in this lack of communication is becoming larger.

Ladies and gentlemen, due to these factors and a few others we're a breeding ground for these attention-starved disassociated nutcases.

However Dust, Kent State was a very different scenario entirely, but I know ya and I know you know that. :)


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This guy was attention starved so he did something that ultimately was going to end in his demise? He planned this out and knew he would die in the process. You aren't going out for attention if you know you are going to die (can't bask in the attention while being worm food). He genuinely hated all the people there and wanted to kill them. If someone kills others to get on the news, then thats really fucking stupid. You kill people because you want them to cease living, not because nobody cares about you. If nobody cares about you and you hate yourself, you just kill yourself. Maybe this guy decided he was pathetic enough that he had to take some of these people with him, but I doubt that since he was looking for specific people. His letter sounded like he wanted to be judge, jury and executioner to me.

We are overpopulated because everyone wants to live in the same cities, while some states have populations that are less than some of the largest cities in our nation. It seems overpopulated because everyone lives on top of eachother. The PC attitude is just something that stifles creativity and expression. No reason to murder someone over it. This guy saw rich, white kids that lie and party all the time. He thought they deserved to die, probably because some chick rejected him harshly and everyone laughed at him. Something like that repeated a few times is what sparked all of this. He just isolated himself even further and planned out this event as revenge.

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Who said he knew he was going to die? And are you saying he "didn't" want to feel important?


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