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if you look at the stats of the populations in jail, you will notice that african american males are the majority of our prison system. im not going to say any more, i believe yall can come up w/ the rest

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It's not really me crying, but more-so voicing the unpopular opinion of the black male, which isn't really represented on this forum at all.

I was never complaining or even looking for an argument, but when people say "hay blacks are bad, take it as you will" then I will of course go ahead and say thats wrong, and if we continue to think that way then we will continue to live with disdain towards other races.

You know the only thing worse than a prejudice person, is a prejudice person in denial. Some people are racist and don't even realize it. I'm just doing them a favor by letting them know...

And knowing is half the battle.

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I try and be open minded when I meet new people. I work with a couple racist people who don't like blacks or mexicans, but I have some good friends who are black (one even stayed in my room for a good while because of problems at home) and my girlfriend's half mexican. Even with my customers I keep an open mind. Sure there are some stereotypical people, but there's at least 100 people that don't stand out for each one.


On topic, celebreties are just regular people with higher paychecks. If he did something as cruel as this I hope he gets the maximum punishment for it.

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lol, you guys take everything way to seriuos.

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1 of every 15 persons (6.6%) will serve time in a prison during their lifetime.

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goDeejay wrote:
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if you look at the stats of the populations in jail, you will notice that african american males are the majority of our prison system. im not going to say any more, i believe yall can come up w/ the rest

Me crying


Bunch o' stats


It's not really me crying, but more-so voicing the unpopular opinion of the black male, which isn't really represented on this forum at all.

I was never complaining or even looking for an argument, but when people say "hay blacks are bad, take it as you will" then I will of course go ahead and say thats wrong, and if we continue to think that way then we will continue to live with disdain towards other races.

You know the only thing worse than a prejudice person, is a prejudice person in denial. Some people are racist and don't even realize it. I'm just doing them a favor by letting them know...

And knowing is half the battle.


So I'm prejudice now because I posted some numbers? lol A prejudice minority, that's awesome. I was just pointing out that what he said (although he probably pulled it out of his ass at the time) was actually true.

Here's how it works with me - If you act like a moron then I will treat you like a moron regardless of the color of your skin. Misanthrope extends beyond racial boundaries.


Black people have their own language and their own music. They have worked so hard to keep people away from them and their lifestyle but they constantly complain that they are cast out of society. I have no sympathy for the anyone who won't do anything to change their situation but would rather continue to do what they have done and complain about it.


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lol A prejudice minority, that's awesome.

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lol A prejudice minority, that's awesome.

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That's satire!


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Oh, so THAT'S what he's doing. That explains so much.

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So I'm prejudice now because I posted some numbers? lol A prejudice minority, that's awesome. I was just pointing out that what he said (although he probably pulled it out of his ass at the time) was actually true.

Wut? When did I refer to you as prejudice? I was refering to the bogus comments that were made earlier.

And since when were minorities not allowed to be racist? I dated a hispanic girl who's parents didn't want me in their house because of my skin color. (they got over it once we met though, which was cool) I know plenty of black girls who don't date outside their race because they think white guys are teh devil. Theres plenty of prejudice going on between minorities, so I don't really know where you that little idea from...

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Here's how it works with me - If you act like a moron then I will treat you like a moron regardless of the color of your skin. Misanthrope extends beyond racial boundaries.
I feel the same way, which is why I decided to lend my 2 cents when galindar said what he said.


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Black people have their own language and their own music. They have worked so hard to keep people away from them and their lifestyle but they constantly complain that they are cast out of society. I have no sympathy for the anyone who won't do anything to change their situation but would rather continue to do what they have done and complain about it.


I can say that for any "Insert Random Minority here". Jews, Hispanics, Asians, Italians, Irish, practically everyone has or has had their own seperate communities here. Living in south florida, 50% of our radio stations are broadcasted in Spanish, what world do you live in where only blacks have their own seperate subculture?

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Your response just seemed as thought it was directed at me. Sorry if I took it out of context.

My comment was just pointing out how much of a hypocrite I would be if I was prejudice. I'm not exempt from racism because I'm a minority and I'm aware - I just think it would be completely asinine to be racist as a minority.

There's a slight difference there (culture). Hispanics speak Spanish (Mexican) because that's the native language of Mexico. Irish speak Gaeilge again because it's their native language, same for Jewish people and Asians. African Americans use a "form" of English. This is, however, not the native language of Africans. A lot of African Americans that I know do not talk like this but this broken English is what makes people think they are stupid. Is that the African American culture?

The other reason why people have the racist bug towards African Americans is that they get away with things we can't. NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) for example. A wonderful group focused toward helping minorities. There is NO WAY white people could have an equivalent organization without pissing people off. They get your own channels on TV - WET wouldn't work out. In most cases it seems to me that blacks are more racist towards whites than anything else. I hear more black people talking about how they hate crackers but I guess that's just because most white peoples are scared to offend blacks.

Don't get me wrong; I couldn't care less what black people do or even how you act but you need to expect other retards to think that you are below them because of the way you act. That's just life - people don't treat me like some roofing spic but that's simply because I don't act like one which brings us right back to Galindar's post. I, of course, would never use "the n word" simply because I have a lot more respect for the melting pot of people on this forum but I'm sure that's why he said that.

Disclaimer: I am in know way saying that Galindar using the n word was warranted nor right. I can't believe he would actually post that honestly. As Americans I think we are (should be at this point) above that shit by now.


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Oh, so THAT'S what he's doing. That explains so much.

Hi, Matti!


Well...Racism is not funny. Racial profiling, however, is hilarious.


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Black culture exists throughout America. Whereas little bits of various ethnic cultures are spread a bit thinner. A good way to look to see which culture has influence in an area is to look at the names of the towns, cities, sports franchises, and cuisine of the region. These are localized versions of places these people brought with them, but (many) Black Americans share the same cultural identity as non-immigrants, since their cultures was destroyed by the slave trade.

Basically what I'm saying is white culture is black culture and black culture is white culture. Neither side wants to admit that completely though.


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The other reason why people have the racist bug towards African Americans is that they get away with things we can't. NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) for example. A wonderful group focused toward helping minorities. There is NO WAY white people could have an equivalent organization without pissing people off. They get your own channels on TV - WET wouldn't work out. In most cases it seems to me that blacks are more racist towards whites than anything else. I hear more black people talking about how they hate crackers but I guess that's just because most white peoples are scared to offend blacks.

What's the difference between Telemundo (or other Spanish T.V. stations) and BET? Just because the word "black" is in the name all of a sudden we're being prejudice? If BET had another name it would just be that station with all the black folk on it.

Also, you're forgetting WHY we have T.V. stations like BET. Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle were denied their own sitcoms by FOX, ABC, and NBC... why? Because their humor wouldn't translate well in front of a "national audience." Look at the Jena 6, how much coverage has it been getting by any of the channels I just mentioned? But when another little Jon Benet Ramsey gets kidnapped, its headline news.

Point is, we wouldn't need stations like BET if the ones we had before gave equal representation for minorites.

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Michael Moore's "Stupid White Men." He has it right and it's sad.

You're right and I'm sorry, DJ, but unfortunately it will always be like this. There will always be stupid people who think like a racist. No matter what I do I can't control stupid people multiplying and bringing up more stupid people. There is nothing a white person can do that any Black person can't do (and even better in most cases haha) but people will always have that racism bug.

I said this already but it's from Mr Moore. The only real solution is to completely do away with the different races and become one race and one color. The world will be boring but a lot more fair...then you only have income (omg this is a new thing) to use against people.

Edit: Thought I would throw in some quotes for fun.. (From "Stupid White Men")

"I don't know what it is, but every time I see a white guy walking toward me, I tense up. My heart starts racing, and I immediately begin to look for an escape route and a means to defend myself. I kick myself for even being in this part of town after dark. Didn't I notice the suspicious gangs of white people lurking on every street corner, drinking Starbucks and wearing their gang colors of Gap Turquoise or J. Grew Mauve? What an idiot! Now the white person is coming closer, closer, closer -- and then -- whew! He walks by with out harming me, and I breathe a sigh a relief."

"Yet as I look back on my life, a strange but unmistakable pattern seems to emerge. Every person who has ever harmed me in my lifetime -- the boss who fired me, the teacher who flunked me, the principal who punished me, the kid who hit me in the eye with a rock, the other kid who shot me with his BB gun, the executive who didn't renew TV Nation (a television show he produced), the guy who was stalking me for three years, the accountant who double-paid my taxes, the drunk who smashed into me, the burglar who stole my stereo, the contractor who overcharged me, the girlfriend who left me, the next girlfriend who left even sooner, the pilot of the plane I was on who hit a truck on the runway, the other pilot who decided to fly through a tornado, the person in the office who stole checks from my checkbook and wrote them out to himself for a total of $16,000 -- every one of these individuals has been a white person! Coincidence? I think not!

I have never been attacked by a black person, never been evicted by a black person, never had my security deposit ripped off by black landlord, never had a black landlord, never had a meeting at a hollywood studio with a black executive in charge, never see a black agent at the film/TV agency that used to represent me, never had a black person deny my child the college of her choice, never been puked on by a black teenage at a MÖtely Crue concert, never been pulled over by a black cop, never been sold a lemon by a black car salesman, never seen a black car salesman, never had a black person deny me a bank loan, never had a black person try to bury my movie, and I've never heard a black person say, 'We're going to eliminate ten thousand jobs here -- have a nice day!'" All quotes above from p. 57.

"...when I turn on the news each night, what do I see again and again? Black men alleged to be killing, raping, mugging, stabbing, gangbanging, looting, rioting, selling drugs, pimping, ho-ing, having too many babies, dropping babies from tenement windows, fatherless, motherless, Godless, penniless..(If your a political junkie, think of Willie Horton) no matter what city I'm in, the news is always the same, the suspect always is always the same unidentified black male. I'm in Atlanta tonight, and I swear the police sketch of the black male suspect on TV looks just like the black male suspect I saw on the news last night in Denver and the night before in L. A." p. 59.

"Isn't it better not to coddle each other with the delusion that frican-Americans are finally part of the mainstream? Isn't it smarter to lift the veil of false hope we give African-Americans, so that we don't waste any time fooling ourselves? The next time you're talking to one of your "black friends," instead of telling him how you're really "down" with the new Jay-Z CD, why not put your arm around him and say, "I love ya, bro, you know that, so I gotta tell you a little secret we white people have:
Your people aren't ever going to have it as good as we do. And if you think working hard and trying to fit in is going to get you a seat on the board of directors when we've already got our black seat filled well,
friend, if it's equality and advancement you seek, try Sweden." The sooner we all start talking like that, the more honest a society we'll all be living in."


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I've never had a huge problem dealing with racism in my life, so i'm not going to pretend like the whole world is against me. I just think that we need to look at ourselves before we go judging other people. Everyone has their own bias' and we all are guilty of treating others poorly for the wrong reasons. However, if we ever want to get past that obstacle, we need to start looking at what makes us all the same, as apposed to what makes us different.

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The next time you're talking to one of your "black friends," instead of telling him how you're really "down" with the new Jay-Z CD, why not put your arm around him and say, "I love ya, bro, you know that, so I gotta tell you a little secret we white people have:
Your people aren't ever going to have it as good as we do. And if you think working hard and trying to fit in is going to get you a seat on the board of directors when we've already got our black seat filled well,
friend, if it's equality and advancement you seek, try Sweden."

Ouch, lol. It's not impossible for blacks to get high up on the corporate chain, its just harder if you're not in with all the head honchos.

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for the record, whites are now a minority in harris county.

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So was the Second Estate but that doesn't mean they were living underprivileged lives. Well, until they got guillotined at least.


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Do not get me started with carlos mencia.

The so called patriot of comedy. I stopped laughing at his jokes when i soon realized it was all racist shit. Dave chapplee wasn't any better but at the very least he doesn't over do it like carlos.
I make it a habit to change the channel anytime i see even a slight mention of that fool. Hate him soo much its not even funny.

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for the record, whites are now a minority in harris county.


And that's important because?

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I think my stance towards carlos mencia is clear. THat is, I'd probably beat him to death if I saw him on the streets. Dave Chappelle was much better because his shit was mostly racial as well but at least it was funny and clever most of the time.


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I liked Dave but his shit got old quick. He was really funny at the start with the "Nigger Family" and "the Black, white supremesist" Carlos Mencia just steals his shit and reciycles old not funny jokes.

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I would definitely kill people, no question about it. Why fight a person when they survive to get revenge later after you kick their ass? Just kill them. That is how I would deal with an anarchic situation. I will take many people with me before I go down. Fuck being euthanized. I would rather not fight or kill actually, that has its consequences as well. It sure as hell is better than being killed though.

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