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There are three new HNMs: Jormungand (name derived from Norse mythology), Tiamat (name derived from Babylonian mythology), and Vrtra (name derived from Hindu mythology).

Jormungand is a Wyrm type that spawns in Uleguerand Range at (G-7). It can instant cast Ice Spikes and Blizzaga III. It has all of the standard Fafnir/Nidhogg type moves (though they may be named differently), plus it can fly (making only ranged attacks work) and does an AoE move when it lands.

Tiamat is almost exactly like Jormungand, except that it is fire-based and spawns in Attowha Chasim. It can use Firaga III, Blaze Spikes, etc.

Vrtra is spawns in King Ranperre's tomb. This one can summon undead to fight by it's side.

Apparently only one of these three monsters can be out at one time. In every case, the monsters are surrounded monsters that are Tough, Very Tough, or Incredibly Tough at 75--the ice-type bombs and ice elementals in Uleguerand Range, wind elementals (and antlions?) in Attowha Chasim, and undead (Spartoi) in King Ranperre's Tomb; so, in every case, a second alliance is required solely for the purpose of fighting off the adds.

This adds an interesting new dimension to HNM hunting in my opinion. These HNMs can't be spam-camped like most other HNMs in the game (except Adamantoise/Aspido). While we don't know the exact spawn behavior, it is entirely possible that which one will appear on a given day/week/whatever will be unpredictable. The other side to it, is that these areas in Uleguerand Range and Attowha Chasim are quite difficult to get to--the path in Uleguerand Range is guarded by several monsters, several of which detect through sneak and invisible. IMO, it is an interesting answer to the issues of latency and bot claiming.

*this info was found on a site for a HNM LS in pheonix server*

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Sounds like a cut and past of what -Skyes- and I said on the VN boards. Only Ive corrected my self about the "one out at a time" point. All three are out on our server.

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Well, the origins of the names were fairly obvious. Anyway, the problem with the new HNM is that they're incredibly hard. Way harder than the kings of the HNM that were out there before. So I'm getting the feeling that the level cap is going to be raised soon.

it was on two sites that i saw, sykes FFXI diary and on that other LS's forums

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Well it's conservation definately. If you want to fight one of these HNM, chances are it's going to be there waiting for you.

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nooooo if you raise the lv cap then i gotta buy BLM gear again and lv it ><!!!!

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Will we see LS's teaming up to take these out, i hope so, it would be really cool if the NA's were the 1st to kill these super dragons on our server.

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How do they raise the level cap? Then won't WHM's get refresh and stuff?

Maybe they'll make "job-specific" spells, like 2hrs. Refresh would be exclusively RDM.

I believe with my extensive FFXI knowledge, considering I quit in July....

Refresh is lv 41? And who cares about whms anyway?

The thing to look forward to with lvl 80 cap is BLM/RDM....

Everything a blm can dream of: lvl 40 RDM sub = Convert.

Yeah sub ninja level 40! all right

Oh wait, I don't get anything?

Well screw that!

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Oh. Then I mixed up the two...

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LAMO din that funny.

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A taru blm with convert heh, wouldn't even fill up your bar. =P

Secondly, why don't we make it a cheeseburgers event to try and take one of these out? If we can get 60 people to go to dynamis, I don't see why we couldn't organize a few alliances to go kill tiamat or any of the others.

6o players vs. 1 rare item drop T_T'

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Most of these "Rare drops" don't sound very impressive anyways. There's several other items that are easier to get AND/OR are better than the drops of the 3 uber dragons.

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I'd rather just have 100 people whacking Tiamat while he's called for help. I think that would be more fun than swapping people in and out for 5 hours while clearing adds, since the drops are shit anyway.

lol I'm all for that.

You wont know all of his drops until hes killed numerous times, seeing as he may have a long list/some are really rare probably.

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im all for the 100 people whacking away at tiamat... i want a screenshot of that

chances are that a few GMs will show up too, since they usually have nothing better to do anyways

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I was actually thinking abour doing a cheseburger event to try and kill this with out calling for help and if it took to long or was to boring, we could just call for help and wack away at it for fun haha

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