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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 8:59 am 
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-.-" yarr... that is uncalled for... whatever..

i didn't bother to read your story

anyways. i'll just let this slide...

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lol your almost as bad as dragonb

why dont you just blist me like they did so they dont have to answer my questions.

or how about the fact that dragonb would change zones anytime I tried to come get the staff from him.


Not reading my points or only listenting to what they tell you is ignorant.

Also, im not the one telling a story. When I screen shots and the testimonies of the other people who where there for the drop....

hahaha, seriously.

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Who am I to jump in this arguement, but there is no denying that an item was stolen. If there is an item for the LS to make the LS better, and someone leaves and doesnt give the item back to the LS, then that is considered stealing. If dragonb didn't solo Roc, how can he keep an item after he leaves a LS? If dragonb admits to still having the Healing Staff, then there is no denying that he stole the item. LS items stay with the LS. When you leave the LS, and LS items are given back to the LS leader. That is just proper LS etiquette.

I am not gonna judge every person on their LS leader, but I do look at LS leaders when I decide whether to join a LS or not. I didn't join Hokuten until i knew that Piro was quitting. I remember having a conversation with Mikey, Hcc, and Severus in Boy. Tree way back in early Dec. 2004. I told them I was looking for a LS but I wanted to avoid Hokuten because of their leadership. So the leader does represent a LS and every person in it to a certain degree.

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Yarr as much u dont like Monarchy..you modding it to, "Monarchylikestostealckditems" I take offense to that..


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i know you dont mean all of monarchy, but maybe you should rephrase that to something else and keeping it between u and whoever. and not generalize it to including my brother and myself..



Tell them to return the stolen Item and Ill stop saying they stole it. Its not rocket science.

oh and theres a good old expression

you are who your friends with. so if you want to associate yourself with an LS whos leader used us to get all the loot and strategies she wanted then leave to make her own HNM ls thats fine. Its your call, but dont get mad when I judge an LS by its leader.

IMO the leader of the ls is the one person who sets the over all example for the ls.

Besides if I found out someone in my ls had a healing staff or some other 2-3 million gil item you can damn well bet they would be returning it or they wouldnt have a home in the dojo.

Besides, its a game, who cares. People get so worked up cause I said no Dynamis for Monarchy yet Aiame and B dont care enough to give up a healing staff just to let you guys back in.

So dont get mad at me, look at aiame and b who dont want to return our staff.





but its ok to spy on other LS...

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I never said anything about spying. Rein had a pearl still and they had timers, I thought it was funny.

How many timers did we use?

none.

why? because we didnt care.

Not like Monarchy doesnt have our timers. We found them at turtle camp and behemoth camps when we used them in our /lsmes.

Did you see me on the forums crying about it? did I remake my hole linkshell because I was scared? god no. I could care less. I think we just gave the timers to a few smaller HNMLs and laughed about it.

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Did you see me on the forums crying about it? did I remake my hole linkshell because I was scared? god no. I could care less. I think we just gave the timers to a few smaller HNMLs and laughed about it.


:lol: :lol:

I remember logging in one day and seeing "You have been removed form the linkshell group." and a message in my inbox. Piro destroyed the Hokuten pearl and the drama began.... Good times :D


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Generally speaking CKD has no lose pearls aside from Aiame and Dragonb.

not that they would spy in on linkshell and show up to Fafnir camp like they did today

oh yeah thats right they showed up at fafnir camp today and managed to win voke over us.

Too bad they wiped in less then 4 minutes. :neutral:

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Generally speaking CKD has no lose pearls aside from Aiame and Dragonb.

not that they would spy in on linkshell and show up to Fafnir camp like they did today

oh yeah thats right they showed up at fafnir camp today and managed to win voke over us.

Too bad they wiped in less then 4 minutes. :neutral:


:lol: I have pics! Of the CKD success not the Monarchy wipe :(

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yeah I hear we have it down to an art, i think they killed it in like 40 minutes er something.

Beats when we did it in like 4 hours with one pld lol

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Yeah, Shiloh and Fattino were hot! "Fafnir was intimidated by Shiloh's presence." HOT HOT HOT <3 Hrotti

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I don't know.. I'm still like neutral with a lot of monarchy. I'm not with a few but I dont' need to tell anyone.

However.

With aiame, b taking the staff (which to this day I'm still confused about cus b is like the nicest person I know in this game) + a few other incidents like, Wain getting a blm af2 from our dynamis raid, but when yarr decides to stop letting Monarchy come to the raid, he goes on crying about it in your website.

Doesn't seem nice at all I must say.

Keeping our distance is the best choice for our 2 ls, and so far we've both done a good job of that so lets keep it that way. Monarchy has some very talented NA players, but having KFC memeber in your ls, I dont' know..

And one big thign is, I dont' think we've done anything to the Monarchy to make some of them so angry with us anyway, so.. no point try to change our minds about anything..

And just like your ls says in your website, if we want to joke around on our website, we can. Its a joke so don't you try to make it into a big drama kinda thing. "Omgmonarchystolefromckd.org" is not a big deal, cus it happened. take it like a man, or woman.

The more you say, its just, in chinese saying, you are adding oil to the fire..

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I remember logging in one day and seeing "You have been removed form the linkshell group." and a message in my inbox. Piro destroyed the Hokuten pearl and the drama began.... Good times


That happened because one day we were going to do something in den of rancor, and all of a sudden Uryll was kicked out of the ls. At first, we thought it was a joke(I thought Remey did it and Remey thought I did it) Gave Uryll another pearl, and within 5 minutes, he was booted again. Joke over.
People starting randomly being kicked, at one point that day, everyone without a sack was booted out, including piro again. So he went and reformed. Just pretty much went downhill from there. We went to WoW and WoW sucked so I came back. He stayed b/c he didn't have the billions of technical problems that I did. I was supposed to get a pearl for newage, but the few times Sir was on he was too busy with other things. I saw the reason why he choose to be the only sackholder, but didn't think that'd work if he was never online. People kept telling me they were joining other ls's b/c it felt dead in there and what not. Noble effort to keep it hokuten going though.
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Ya, I had a pearl to Monarchy, and I screenshotted a timer once. But I never said "OMG WE GOTTA CAMP THESE THINGS TO PISS THEM OFF" none of the NMs in that LSmessage were camped at all by any CKD member. I just did it for a laugh. Not like how Aiame and B used Triddy's CKD pearl to get timers from us and actually camp the NMs.

I mean, fuck, I've been handed timers from people in other linkshells and didn't camp the NMs. People have big mouths, timers leak from linkshells all the time. Also, the night I did do that, was the same night Monarchy stole Charybis from Fatesealers.


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Not like how Aiame and B used Triddy's CKD pearl to get timers from us and actually camp the NMs.


When I zoned into Dragon's Aery when CKD was fighting Fafnir after Monarchy wiped, I saw Triddy and I was like "OMG Triddy is back!" Then I did some emotes to him and sent him a tell and stuff and got no response. I was like WTF. But now i see.

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I remember logging in one day and seeing "You have been removed form the linkshell group." and a message in my inbox. Piro destroyed the Hokuten pearl and the drama began.... Good times


That happened because one day we were going to do something in den of rancor, and all of a sudden Uryll was kicked out of the ls. At first, we thought it was a joke(I thought Remey did it and Remey thought I did it) Gave Uryll another pearl, and within 5 minutes, he was booted again. Joke over.
People starting randomly being kicked, at one point that day, everyone without a sack was booted out, including piro again. So he went and reformed. Just pretty much went downhill from there. We went to WoW and WoW sucked so I came back. He stayed b/c he didn't have the billions of technical problems that I did. I was supposed to get a pearl for newage, but the few times Sir was on he was too busy with other things. I saw the reason why he choose to be the only sackholder, but didn't think that'd work if he was never online. People kept telling me they were joining other ls's b/c it felt dead in there and what not. Noble effort to keep it hokuten going though.
I'm bored so I'm stopping before I ramble more.


Damn, I didn't know about all that. I thought it was because Yarr still had a pearl or something...


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Not like Monarchy doesnt have our timers. We found them at turtle camp and behemoth camps when we used them in our /lsmes.



just a quick FYI that time we show'd up at behemot my freind lebiont had gotton me the timer, and i told the LS and we went to go camp it, ket even /tell'd me saying "how did you get the timer?" and i told him that leb got it for me, :? , false accusations that you have nothing to back up with should not be used to slander a LS

and as for the fafnir camp, we had decided days before we were going to camp fafnir after the down-time

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and as for the fafnir camp, we had decided days before we were going to camp fafnir after the down-time



You mean the day after the down time.

but like I said. You can have all the timers you want, I could care less, if I did care I would have made a new shell.

But I dont care, it was just more entertaining to watch Aiame try and setup SATA on Fafnir.

rofl.

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But I dont care, it was just more entertaining to watch Aiame try and setup SATA on Fafnir.

rofl.


Are you serious? :shock:

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I wasnt there but thats the runmor haha.

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4. As far as Aiame and her getting things and leaving, she didn't leave the LS right after she got anything. Unlike some of your members did to other LS's. And as far as I remember when I was there...you couldn't do a damn thing without Aia. You had to have members lvl up ninja just to accomplish anything. So who was really the user?, Aia "helped" you guys accomplish alot, you helped her better herself. She isnt' who she is because of CKD, she has always been extremely dedicated and hard working. She has maxed/capped every merit possible. Over 1million merits. She has helped monarchy accomplish many things without taking anything for herself minus an Osode which we gave her as a reward. I've known the girl for far longer than anyone in CKD...you both had a falling out...period.


Sorry but i'm taking this as you saying we were entirely dependant on aiame? Last time i checked it takes people PEOPLE to do these gods? Look fair and simple you and doodee simply don't understand how much alot of us tried to fix this. You can't expect some of us not be mad at what happened, and i'm aware about how many people are lieing also, and continuing to fuel this fight. . Throwing in your 2 cents when you honestly don't even know the entire story simply isn't helping anyone.

Look guys we don't blame you all, simple enough. Everyone is going nuts about stupid joke yarr made about 3 weeks ago... Bumping threads is the devil.

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So you want to go into details? Well, two can play at that.



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Ok, I usually just ignore this because most of CKD i'm cool with. We've been around this game for a long time together. When you start making stuff up just to protect your own rep for whatever ignorant reason. I'll step in.

1. The staff is not between Monarchy and CKD. It's Yarr personal vendetta that he drags everyone else into. Including very nice people that had nothing to do with it. Which he basically forced out of CKD because we wouldn't do his bidding, or backstabbing our own friends.



Yeah im the back stabber. Im the one who went out camping HNMs at 2-3AM in the morning with another linkshell. Im the one who hid it from the LS and my ls leader. Oh, wait, no, that was you and crimsonsan.

The rules are simple in CKD. I know I went through them with you. You dont camp HNMs with anyone but CKD unless you ask me and I say ok. The fact is you and Crimsonsan went out of your way to only camp stuff with monarchy when I was offline. I have people who watch this stuff and tell me. So really it was you who broke the rules. I gave you the choice. both you and Crimsonsan decided to pick Monarchy over CKD. So in reality you decided that 2 friends (aiame and b) were more important than all of CKD.

So dont turn this around on me, Im not the backstaber. I followed the rules. If you think I enjoy kicking people I liked out of the linkshell you are wrong. A good leader follows the rules he sets down. Dispite his personal feelings.

As for the healing staff being a "personal vendetta". Course it is. Its also not "my" healing staff. Its our healing staff. Its an LS item. Stop pretending that they stole this item from me. They stole it from the LS. Actually it was suppose to goto whisp IIRC. I dont even want it. The fact is that when I went to collect it dragonb and aiame they just blisted me asap. Seriously, thats your god damn leaders right there. Unless Dragonb wants to sent it to me (and he has it I saw him using it a few weeks ago) then he has willingly made the choice to steal an item that 7-8 other people agreed to pass on so we could use it as an ls item. I passed on that staff for him too, I dont know why people think he earned it more than I did. I was the one who organized everyone to get out to there Roc camps. the only reason he has it is because I didnt want to use it and I just willingly passed it to him. Never thinking he would just steal it.

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2. Rein stole the timers, whether you used them or not...does it really matter? How low can you get Rein...especially after what you did to Aia, Cy and Crim...sad. The fact that CKD even promotes this bewilders me.



Stole timer? Rein was a member of that ls, no one ever booted him out. Also, Aiame sid that Monarchy wasnt an HNM LS. Infact (and I have the screen shot somewhere) Aiame promised me that she never wanted to make an HNMLS and that she wasnt leaving CKD to make her ls an HNM LS. She didnt want to be part of an HNM LS because it was "too stressful". ill grab that screen shot some time.

Besides, you guys act like I raped your mother or something. Stealing a timer is nothing with out camping it and stealing the NM from you. If you guys didnt have someone on our private forusm reading our threads (yeah you spying on us) you never would have known we had the timers. I have people feed me all sorts of timers from their linkshells. I could care less about them. What rein did was funny in my opinion. He was more pointing out that they are camping HNMs and that aiame did lie when she said she was leaving CKD because she couldnt take the stress of an HNMLS.

Like I said, if you didnt have one of your old CKD friends spying on private chat for you and reporting back to you, you never would have known because we never acted on the timers.

Hell I could go rob an Armed Car because I know what time they show up at the bank, but I dont. Does that make me just as bad as someone who does?
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3. We've never taken timers from you, we camp our own, do our own thing and constantly mind our own business.

I thought I said I dont care even if you tried.


Yeah just like you minded your own business at fafnir yesterday. If you minded your own business you wouldnt even be there.
Hell, do you even see me posting on the monarchy forums? No. Someone PMed me a link to Noodlebrain doing an all out bash post on me. Did I reply? no, cause I actually dont care haha.
I mean, after all, its funny to see him bash me as a leader on the monarchy forums but praise me a few months earlier on the sentinal forums. I guess opinions change once you start hanging round certin people.

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4. As far as Aiame and her getting things and leaving, she didn't leave the LS right after she got anything. Unlike some of your members did to other LS's. And as far as I remember when I was there...you couldn't do a damn thing without Aia. You had to have members lvl up ninja just to accomplish anything. So who was really the user?, Aia "helped" you guys accomplish alot, you helped her better herself. She isnt' who she is because of CKD, she has always been extremely dedicated and hard working. She has maxed/capped every merit possible. Over 1million merits. She has helped monarchy accomplish many things without taking anything for herself minus an Osode which we gave her as a reward. I've known the girl for far longer than anyone in CKD...you both had a falling out...period.



You left out the parts where she would camp petty NMs for weeks on end then spaz out when other linkshell members wanted to camp too. Or that any time the slightest conflict came up she would lose it and I had to spend hours trying to talk her into coming back. She dropped her pearl about 2-3 times. I have never had anyone come close to doing that in CKD.

Yeah aiame was our only ninja. Was that why she was in the ls? Partly. was that the only reason I wanted her in the ls? no. I wouldnt have tried so hard the last time to convince her to stay.
Its clear to me that the whole time aiame had a hidden ajenda. Its clear to most the older CKD members that she did. She was the one who pushed us to do This or That god. She was the one who came back to CKD for a week but pushed everyone to do Suzaku. When we did and the boots dropped and she took them, guess what, she ran into a "problem" with the ls and left for good. The day after she good the drop.

We never "Needed" aiame. Aiame didnt join until like fall. We had already done tons of things. We had killed gods, we had killed fafnir, we had lots of things we could keep doing. We also had Ilma and Skye who were weeks away from maxing out.

This ls has been much better since she left. There is hardly any fighting. Ive yet to have anyone other than her threaten to quit so much. I havent had anyone have so many problems with so many different members.

So no, I didnt use aiame anymore than I use anyone in my linkshell. Everyone has their roll. Everyone does their job, but when it comes down to it, everyone is in CKD because we are friends and we are out just to have a good (honest) time. I regret ever inviting her in.

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5. I distinctly remember you making comments about how immature it is for other LS's to /shout or /say things in public being disrespectfull or otherwise making the LS look bad...yet you guys do it all the time...


You dont like it? do wha dragonb and aiame do, just blist every ckd member that talks to them. I try to avoid having people be asses in public, we save that for linkshell chat. Yeah when I run by dragonb and aiame I make a comment about the staff. Of course im bitter about that. Its a 3mil item. We worked as an ls to get that staff and it was to stay in the ls so people who ditch the ls like dragonb couldnt keep the rewards of what we did as a group.

IIRC I think the time you are refuring to was when we camped vs IW and KFC and I was trying to cut down the stress between shells. It didnt work of course. I dont think I have to defend the actions of my ls. Everyone makes mistakes, thats bound to happen. When we do make our mistakes we make sure to correct them. Unlike some people who dont want to return the staff even if that would have fixed the situation. I guess dragonb cares more about a healing staff then he does about his own ls. After all, I did say if he returned it I would go back to letting monarchy join us in Dynamis.

Course Ive taken that offer off the table.

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6. Yes we wiped to Fafnir...yes it was pretty sad. We made some bad mistakes and didn't have enough people to just overcome it. We do that alot, it isn't a big deal because of the way we take on the end-game mobs. We got the claim because you had 13 people in zone and didn't even try to claim it. We fought it with 11. Ya we wiped, but we always try things beyond our means...and most of the time we do it. It's what we're about. You'll never see CKD try Kirin with 18. They aren't in it for the thrill, or to see how skilled they are. It's what we are about, period.


oh yeah take a shot at our skill lol.

Lets see Monarchy do anything before anyone. Funny I dont see any Monarchy in the new Sea area. I dont see monarchy with even one king kill under their belt. the kings are so freaking easy its not even funny. Byakko is harder than Fafnir imo. Nidhogg would be maybe a little harder than Byakko. Kirin is a joke.

Its not like 13 people is that big of a difference over 11 at fafnir when like 6 of them are rangers(since you guys had so many i hear). We had 2 rangers and like 1 blm, yet we still managed to kill Fafnir in 40 minutes.

No we dont have only 18 people at kirin, we normally have like 25ish people. Why not try it with less? Because you see, in CKD everyone helps out. Even the people who win loot come back to help kill kirin again for the fun of the kill. We pride our selves on helping each other. Look at me, I have nothing in this game I want anymore. I have had all my "dream" gear since about september. Yet I still setup Dynamis raids 2 times aweek for anyone on the server to attend. Well anyone but monarchy members. I do things in this game 100% for other people. I got everything I ever wanted out of this game back in september.

Yeah we are so talentless. We have no skill or any idea how to face a challange.

Yeah we wernt the first NA ls to jump on Tiamat and fight him over and over for like 2 hours dispite knowing how hopless it was. Or we wernt the first LS to jump in the sky as an NA only ls to do gods with out knowing anything other than a basic idea of what to do. Besides, you guys only do sky gods and stuff like that because Aiame ripped off all our strategies.

We dont do kirin with more than 18 people because we cant. When we do kirin 99% of the ls who is online comes out. Its not a matter of skill or us lacking skill, its a matter of us working as a whole and having fun as a full linkshell. Besides, we just fire through kirin in like 45-60 minutes. The other day we did 2 kirins back to back. I used my 2h on the first summoned god and I still had like 20 min left on the timer when we killed kirin the second time. I cant help that CKD members come to help out even if they dont need loot. We also have a "medium sized" ls. Trust me CKD could be huge, but I choose to keep it as small as possible.

The idea of an ex ckd member and new monarchy member calling us talentless is just funny. Seriouly haha, we trained all the ex CKD Members in there (aiame, dragonb, triddy, crimsonsan and you). Then you guys just took what you learnt from us and taught the rest of monarchy. So you cant imply that we suck more than you if we infact gave you the strategies and skills (and armor\weapons) to kill sky gods. Then again, we dont whore out the sky quite like monarchy does (we actually talk and work with linkshells to create a more fair way for all of us to live up there) so maybe you have more experiance than us. Still, I doubt CKD would have a problem doing a bare bones Kirin run.

Your death on fafnir was more than entertaining. Dragonb, triddy and Aiame have killed Fafnir with us, they have the experiance, they have the strategy, they just made mistakes so outragous I cant even begin to say.

I dont see what your excuse was other than you couldnt remember the strategy to fight fafnir, from what I heard you guys didnt even fight fafnir, you just died to him.

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Ok, I usually just ignore this because most of CKD i'm cool with. We've been around this game for a long time together. When you start making stuff up just to protect your own rep for whatever ignorant reason. I'll step in.

1. The staff is not between Monarchy and CKD. It's Yarr personal vendetta that he drags everyone else into. Including very nice people that had nothing to do with it. Which he basically forced out of CKD because we wouldn't do his bidding, or backstabbing our own friends.

2. Rein stole the timers, whether you used them or not...does it really matter? How low can you get Rein...especially after what you did to Aia, Cy and Crim...sad. The fact that CKD even promotes this bewilders me.

3. We've never taken timers from you, we camp our own, do our own thing and constantly mind our own business.

4. As far as Aiame and her getting things and leaving, she didn't leave the LS right after she got anything. Unlike some of your members did to other LS's. And as far as I remember when I was there...you couldn't do a damn thing without Aia. You had to have members lvl up ninja just to accomplish anything. So who was really the user?, Aia "helped" you guys accomplish alot, you helped her better herself. She isnt' who she is because of CKD, she has always been extremely dedicated and hard working. She has maxed/capped every merit possible. Over 1million merits. She has helped monarchy accomplish many things without taking anything for herself minus an Osode which we gave her as a reward. I've known the girl for far longer than anyone in CKD...you both had a falling out...period.

5. I distinctly remember you making comments about how immature it is for other LS's to /shout or /say things in public being disrespectfull or otherwise making the LS look bad...yet you guys do it all the time...

6. Yes we wiped to Fafnir...yes it was pretty sad. We made some bad mistakes and didn't have enough people to just overcome it. We do that alot, it isn't a big deal because of the way we take on the end-game mobs. We got the claim because you had 13 people in zone and didn't even try to claim it. We fought it with 11. Ya we wiped, but we always try things beyond our means...and most of the time we do it. It's what we're about. You'll never see CKD try Kirin with 18. They aren't in it for the thrill, or to see how skilled they are. It's what we are about, period.









Doodee do you see why i asked to speak nothing of it and let things things settle? Time heals all wounds, but when you scratch its gonna hurt.

Murph just so you know Nobody and i mean nobody praised rein for that timer shit he pulled and not even yarr himself And even for the record we never did anything with the timers. Nobody was gonna do anything with them. Murph know this i know yarr too , i've know this kid for a year and i know for a damn fact he didn't want that staff just to be prick and keep it for himself, his whole intention was to give it back to any whm in the ls that needed it. Also, i've recently become a mod here i've seen old posts and ULTRA private threads, yarr tried to fix whatever issues aiame had with us, he TRIED SO FREAKEN HARD because we not only did we value her we considered her (i STILL DO) our friend. The fashion as to which aiame and b left was and still is unexplained and unfair to us. Now guys continuing to be sttuborn and not dealing with this isn't good for anyone. Enough now i just finished my top secret project and i'm in a extremely good mood, so i don't want to get myself upset over this. GUys settle this don't fight , make love not war?

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Actually I thought it was funny.

Like I said, no one in ckd ever intended on using them. Atleast I dont remember anyone wanting too. We have our agenda so we couldnt care less.

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