finding something funny and praising someone are 2 different things

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

ok if you put it that way.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Actually you're right on one thing, We did just die to fafnir. On everything else you're wrong. The same as almost everything you suffocate you're world with Yarr. I did camp Gods with Monarchy at 2am because we didn't like to fight for HNM and we enjoyed being able to spawn our own NM's. It was a rule not to camp HNMs...Gods are different. We did it with 6-8 people at the time just to better ourselves because I had no other way...at the time CKD couldn't and did not fight any gods that I could better myself with. We neve camped against CKD, or even did anything when 90% of CKD was online. I was at every single dynamis, event, god fight possible when I was in CKD. I did everything for you because I enjoyed it. As far as you "training" me? that's a joke. I learned alot about dynamis, which I have and never will comment on because I do respect CKD for what they do in dynamis. I know first hand how much organization that takes.

Again you only see or hear what you want to hear. I never commented on CKD's skill about anything. I said you just throw #'s at things. You don't take risks. If you want to interpret that as lack of skill, that's your buisiness.

You asked me to leave Monarchy because of the Staff, you didn't want me to have anything to do with Monarchy, it was personal and they were the ones that helped me with everything. CKD did not. You told me, CKD or my friends. I chose my friends. I can post SS's if you would like

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So you were after items that you could better yourself with and you did gods without CKD (which is against the rules) to get yourself gear. Your main concern was god gear that could benefit you and couldn't wait for CKD to fight those gods again. CKD "couldn't" fight those gods? Total BS as I have seen that CKD killed Kirin before I got here and have killed all the gods before also. You are a member of a LS who defaults gear to people. I know this because I talk to several people in your LS and some of them are pissed about it. Makes you guys look like greedy assholes IMO. When I partied with you before Murph you seemed like a smart person but I am surprised by your stupidity now.

You say CKD throws #s at things.. we have people at gods because we have members who are online that want to participate (and that can actually lot things). It is your fault because some of your members might not feel so inclined to show up in the future because you dicks default stuff to yourselves. Not our fault that we have members who show up for gods (25 people isn't that many). I know how you guys do Kirin and it shows that you are the ones with a lack of strategy that is why you have wiped the last 3 times and continue to make excuses and CKD has never lost to Kirin since I have been in the LS. It isn't your numbers that cause you to lose it is the fact you use certain jobs the wrong way and you can whine about the teleport bug all you want because we killed him twice when that was happening.

We don't have to whore sky because we do CoP missions, xp, do rank missions, help people with things (coffers, avatars, etc.), and generally have a good time and yes sometimes we camp HNMs also. You guys go and tell your members that you are going to "xp" then you go to Ve'lugannon Palace and kill SC or Zip then go camp at the golems to do Ulli. You are just using xp as a reason to get people to get pop items so you can kill gods and default gear to yourselves you greedy fucks. Maybe people in your LS will wake up and realize they are being used. You guys will have to camp HNMs in the future to get gear like adaman cuirass, koenig body, and black belt. And you already do some HNM camping as it is.

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Eternus Ifrit Server Atariii LS member
75 BRD with a bunch of subjobs

can I get a "Snap"?

Et that was well put.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Ok i'm not touching this anymore lol.

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

well, last night me and kotee tried to duo the pld AF body nms (the pld and rng orc), and i new we were going to die, and we did. Lost 8000exp in the process. Then we came back with more ppl and finished the mob with ease. Just because you do things with more ppl doesnt mean you have less skill or anything, just the fact that it is "better safe than sorry." Sure CKD could do a dynamis with 18ppl and die every other pull (been to jeuno raid that was similar to this) but no, they try to bring as many as possible to increase their rate of success. there is no point in trying anything if you have a such low chance of succeding.

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Eternus you should only talk when you know what you are talking about. Things that get defaulted to people in our LS are for people that 1. Need it 2. Deserve it and have been in the LS. Minus a very few rare items typically just let stuff rot these days because nobody needs them, so where are you getting such "valid" info?

I was there when CKD "tried" to fight Byakko and Seiryu and even Suzu. We wiped to seiryu and byakko and barely got away from Suzu alive. So I think the word "can't" fits quite nicely at that time. The can and do now, and i'm sure it's quite easy, but at the time they could not.

Yes we've lost to Kirin quite a few times. We typically have 1 pld and 1 whm...you try that . We have also succeeded. It's about mistakes, maybe you don't realize that because you don't undestand what a fierce hard ongoing fight actually is. That requires "everybodies" participation. Not having an entire extra aliance that can just jump in if someone fucks up. I never said once that Monarchy was better than CKD. I said we die alot, and I said why. I said we enjoy the thrill of things and that's how we do it. Period.

Maybe you should try reading before getting defensive.

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maybe you should make more posts that completly ignore the fact that I totally ripped your argument apart.

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RIP Shiloh

Actually I was reading and how was I being defensive if it was my first post on this thread. Actually I was offensive. No fucking way I tell you the name of my sources because I don't want them to get kicked and lose their chance at gods and end game (because I wish they could be in CKD but we don't have room). You guys kill with less people because YOU HAVE TO! We don't turn people away who head up to sky that want to fight gods... omg you want to come fight kirin... im sorry we only do it with 18 people so you have to go back to jueno because we want a challenge. That is retarded, we don't have to turn away members to kill Kirin with 18 people just because your LS was forced to do it one time.

Yes I know what I am talking about because I have friends in your LS who have told me alot that I can PM you but if you want me to spill your entire Kirin crappy ass strategy on the net be my guest. You and whoever left CKD for monarchy were impatient and greedy because you left CKD before they actually killed the gods you "needed". And that is BS about defaulting and is a sorry ass excuse for being a greedy ass son of a bitch. Nobody "needs" god gear or "deserves" it more than anyone else who participated in that fight. Your leader gets to decide arbitrarily who deserves and needs shit the most then that leaves open for bias and favoritism which is why I left Hokuten in the first place. Lotting and randoming lets the computer decide randomly who wins and is much fairer than a LS leader deciding based on who he/she likes most. CKD has made mistakes I am sure, but at least we don't outright default shit to people all the time. I am just sick of your LS lying to people and making shit up to make you feel better about yourselves losing by making excuses to your members. They will stop buying it and your LS will crumble. Have a good day.

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75 BRD with a bunch of subjobs

Haha...nice try.

Keep dreaming, You still aren't listening. I'm done...pay attention gentlemen.

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ok have fun wiping to Fafnir. While the big boys take out Nidhogg.

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COBRA KAI DOJO NEVER DIES
RIP Shiloh

Darn.. even Murph is brain washed by them.. or just Murph's true skin showing up

I've been looking at all these on a LS lvl, and since you've gone a bit on the personal lvl, I'm going to also. Chill out its a game.. But since you are crossing the line a bit...

Do the following sound familiar?

-camps over lsmate, cus they think they own a camp time on a lottery nm. (Wtf? lol)
-camp hnm/god stuff for other LS to back stab current LS, and still think its ok (omg this is you murph)
-Peopel who continuesly brag about killing stuff with little number, because they have to. And then, bragging about how he bragged about killing stuff with little number cus they had to.
-People who don't mind KFC in their LS. (this is horrible)
-Leaders who were in a LS for a month or 2 and was rarely on that LS. Only when she needed items or when LS is doing hunts. No, ofcourse Aiame was not too useful at all. I remember I use to talk to yarr about Aiame all the time and ask him to kick her fro being greedy, when she was still in LS, because shes never too helpful. She was only in the ls when there are events going on.
-Leader who steal an ls item after leaving a LS, and wouldn't give back after we asked him to nicely. (I mean come on if you all are as good as you say are with so little people, you could just camp him another one right real quick with like 2 people or something)

Kinda weird poeple in Monarchy supports this.

Hi, your ls leader stole a healing staff from our LS as a whole. If hes not giving it back, fine, but stop whining on our forum and talk shit about every single person after we get jacked. If I rob you, I'm not going to cry about it am I. you are. But from what you did and how you supports your leader, you probably the type that would go rob the same person 2 or 3 times. Besides, we can joke or be serious about this anyway we want.

And the funny thing is, you were part of our LS at the time. Just cus you don't care about the healing staff, doesn't mean you should just jump the boat and back stab the rest of the people.. Shows how much loyalty you have for a LS.

and about the stealing timer thing, you guys are like twice (yea if not 2x, 3x) as sneaky as what rein did. So stop whining. U sneak into our forum, and you sneak into our ls to get lsmes. Dont' even need to list who has access. Atleast we can laugh about it, but you people took it beyond that. After that you have the guts to come bitch about rein, get the fock out of here. No shame. Woop dee doo roc and simurph.. er Get out of here.

Nice of you to brag about our 99-3 records on gods. I thank you for that. Those times we lost were probably because of people like you who were paying attention to another LS at the time.

Last thing. We dont' care about your accomplishments. Oh wait, there are really none. Been there, Done that. And also, if I have a LS filled of backstabbers and KFCs, I probably won't have enough people doing things either. And unfortunatly, I am not shameless. I would just shut up and not be like omg we beat this with 2 people. So when you repeatly say stuff like omg we did it you havn't go try it, STFU KID so annoying. I thought you were older. Guess I was wrong

What did I say before earlier in the thread.. Stop while you are at it. Adding oil to fire makes you look too much like a focking Pinnoccio.

And kid is doing it on our forum.. What a joke

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I really feel that what Murph said isn't his words.
Dragonb and Aiame haven't Talked or anything about anything is b/c they know they are in the wrong and have no Excuses.

Murph u broke LS rules... plain and simple. I rally don;t know why u would consider dragonb and aiame Friends over us... that i'm still confused about.

And that Staff Was CKD's not Yarrs or anyone elses. They leave they give up the Item or Expect to be called a Thief.
How Can some one Steal something and not be Called a theif or at least be expected to be called one.

Personaly i really don't like how you guys have Put Doodee in the middle of this. Yes she prolly appoched you asking what the deal is but Come on man.. you honestly think Dragonb took the Staff b/c he felt her deserved it? Why deserve it over any of the other ppl there? i dunno but i guess he dose.. and let defend it as a LS.

Murph... don't go on how u guys kill it with X amount members... honestly that means nothing and not mention a high Perentage of ppl there were CKD members useing CKD Strg. Bleh what ever. I pissed about that Staff and i don;t Even have a WHM lvl to use it. Why? B/c you guys are trying to Even make an Effort to Retionalize it.

And the only Reason CKD had Monarchy pearls is b/c Dragonb and Aiame where trying to Steal our members and Welll some of Weak ones got nabbed. W/e have fun.

AS for your Fafnir fight... W/e Everypone has learning Experiences but i really was susprised.

And for kirin lol. You had KFC members in ur allience when u killed Kirin for the 1st time.... omfg KFC members man thats like just dishonorable to the whole NA Comunity not just CKD lol.

Oh btw we noticed one of ur members in one of our Dym Raids and what did we do? we said W/e and let them finsh the Raid.

Btw Nidhogg VS CKD today. CKD won.

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Don't forget we even let Crimsonsan being in the dynamis raid for as many times as he wanted, after he left us. Wain also

We held no grudges.

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http://www.myspace.com/hccmike

Yeah I totally forgot that they had KFC members in the alliance when they killed Kirin.

Grats on that one.

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RIP Shiloh

Where is the staff now? Is it a Monarchy LS item? Or is it b's item?

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Its really not my place to comment on this thread too deeply regarding Aiame or dragonb, but the hearsay is bothering me. I just wish Dragonb would actually step up to explain himself. Even if it is just "#$&* you the staff is mine now" it would at least clear up any confusion that so many people seem to have about this.

If dragonb never explained himself why are people defending him?

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Because theres no denying that, b is still one of the nicest person I know in this game =p

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wow lol funny stuff.




There arent many core jobs needed to kill these gods - any other people you bring are just fluff anyway. If you guys want to take 10 years to kill something with 3 people just so theres more loot for yourself, thats your buisiness - doesnt really impress me either way. And btw killing fafnir with 12 people isnt tough, maybe you should find someone's tactics to leech for it, since you retards obviously cant do anything without ripping people off.

We were killing all the gods and kirin long before you were ever in the LS. So whats your point? Better yourself? Right... Spamming ranged attack and watching TV at the same time must be real hard.

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4. As far as Aiame and her getting things and leaving, she didn't leave the LS right after she got anything. Unlike some of your members did to other LS's. And as far as I remember when I was there...you couldn't do a damn thing without Aia. You had to have members lvl up ninja just to accomplish anything. So who was really the user?, Aia "helped" you guys accomplish alot, you helped her better herself. She isnt' who she is because of CKD, she has always been extremely dedicated and hard working. She has maxed/capped every merit possible. Over 1million merits. She has helped monarchy accomplish many things without taking anything for herself minus an Osode which we gave her as a reward. I've known the girl for far longer than anyone in CKD...you both had a falling out...period.


Sorry but i'm taking this as you saying we were entirely dependant on aiame? Last time i checked it takes people PEOPLE to do these gods? Look fair and simple you and doodee simply don't understand how much alot of us tried to fix this. You can't expect some of us not be mad at what happened, and i'm aware about how many people are lieing also, and continuing to fuel this fight. . Throwing in your 2 cents when you honestly don't even know the entire story simply isn't helping anyone.

Look guys we don't blame you all, simple enough. Everyone is going nuts about stupid joke yarr made about 3 weeks ago... Bumping threads is the devil.

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

well caduceus... B doesn't really talk... like ever... I was in Monarchy for a few weeks and never heard him talk much at all... even when I asked him direct questions concerning like crafting and stuff... so it'll be hard to get an explanation out of him

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BTw murph lol i accdentially destroyed your post lolol, i meant to quote you and my retarded mod powers are weak lol, honestly sorry about that one ><

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The mikey's have a plan. Djay isn't all powerful.

God damn Murph, I've always thought you were really cool but it looks like your taking personal shots at the skill of the members in our LS. I even saw this:



That is a very f***ing personal shot at our PLD's skills at their job, including myself... but you know what? Bring that shit on! Just give me Whisp and I'll kite that MFer for and hour while we kill him. No f***ing wyrmial leggings, no support healers. Don't take personal shots at the skill of our players. I've personally seen Ketrebu kite Kirin for the entire fight and we didn't have a single death with less than a full alliance and 3 members were us unskilled CKD PLD's.

Let's be honest here, this isn't about items like I'm sure people that want to talk this shit want to make it out to be. It's easier for the Monarchy members to say we're pissed that B, Aiame, Crim and you took CKD items and left and that's why we're mad, because that makes us look like loot whores and makes us look like the bad guys. This isn't about loot in any shape or form, this is totally about feeling totally betrayed by those that we trusted.

All four of you former CKD members left us high and dry, I felt like shit when you left Murph, hell, I still do. I really wanted you to become an asset to this LS. That wasn't in the cards and now I know why...

I don't understand B, he was without a doubt one of the nicest people I had met in this game, sit for 5 damn hours while Noodle and our group tried time and time again to kill Fenrir for the first time with a much less than optimal setup.

Here's the bottom line, we took up for Aiame all the time, tried to keep her happy, then when Amemet pops and she takes it when a few of CKD members are killed by it she turns up, kills it and tells the group there, and I quote, "No skins dropped."

Another instance, Crim joins our LS as a RDM, attends a few events, takes time off to level up and shows up in time to lot on God items, wins them, then takes off more time to level SMN and next thing I know I see a goodbye post by him in the private forums.

This whole CKD vs. Monarchy is pure and utter BS and I'm sick of it. I don't even want to hear about how we're pissed that people took our items cause we don't give a damn about some stupid staff, a stupid ring, god items or otherwise. We were used and then tossed out while getting fed a ton of lies about junk. Then on top of that, I personally get insulted by someone I thought was a friend. I haven't done anything to warrent anykind of hostility from your members. I'm so sick of this crap...

Ilma made an absolutely brilliant comment about this whole thing. You'd be surprised how little most of these little comments and hatreds you actually are coming up with yourself and how much it just being regurgitated because someone you know feels the same way. So sick of people that only can see the black and white in this situation because CKD is fare from blameless in this stupid drama. We've had our taunts, our sneaky intrusions and our share of underhandedness but I can at least admit it. If you had asked me for a raise at Fafnir I would've given you all raises no matter what anyone had told me and you know what? I still will because I'm too nice of a guy... just let this be known... I am severely let down now... severely... :|

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