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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 2:10 am 
Youre a Crappy HNM like Roc or something
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Don't worry Ridere, I'm not arguing with you or anything, I'm using your post at a point of reference because it's articulate. ;p
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As for Dragonb, you all can say he's a super nice guy, and all that, whatever. I don't care. I don't really know the guy, because he didn't really leave himself open to being known. What I do know, is he won't talk at all about the issue. People who are convicted of crimes are given their miranda rights. One of those rights includes the well-known, "You have the right to remain silent." This is also called, "Pleading the 5th." The problem with this is 99% of the time when someone "Pleads the 5th" they admit their guilt through silence. If you are innocent, why be ashamed/afraid of talking about your innocence?


Well, I think at this point it wouldn't really matter, would it? Regardless of whether he came on to write this ungodly long post explaining his actions, it would be horribly flamed. Yarr's admitted many times that he was best friends with Dragonb in game, obviously that viewpoint has changed in the past 5-6 months whatever. Besides, even if the issue was settled now, then what... deal with Aiame? What exactly does CKD want from Aiame? To delete her character because she got some items and everyone is bitter about that? Give me a break, lol. Aiame and I have always had our fair share of our ups and our downs as long as we've known each other, but I could honestly care less about her having items we worked for collectively.

At the time Aiame was interested in joining, she and I practically hated each other, and I was badgered in tell, (not gonna say who, you know who you are,) saying, "OMG We need her to join this ls, resolve your differences because it's bullshit to hold a grudge." So, what's going on now? Now I'm hearing she wasn't an asset to the ls at all... yet we did a fair share of our "firsts" while she was in the ls. Seiryu, Byakko, Kirin etc. Who else would anyone would've liked to have, and you're saying she didn't do anything for the shell? Sorry, I'm calling bullshit here.



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As for Murph, Crimsonsan and Icy, I don't really know what to say. You are welcome to leave a linkshell for whatever reason you like. But if you are unwilling to accept the general publics perception of that reason, then you are living in a dream world.


Crimsonsan hasn't said much has he? heh


This is of course my opinion. I'm not going to defend CKD or Monarchy in the decisions they make, what they say or anything like that. If I have scruples with individuals and their actions, I'll talk to them personally about it, not hate an entire group of people. I'm not going to sit and hate people who wanted in a HNMls but other people rejected them, (I can think of quite a few off hand.)

Honestly, no one could've expected the monarchy bashing to continue going without anyone saying anything at any point, could they have? I know a lot of people, and I don't hear a lot of public CKD bashing- possibly because they fear being ripped to shreds by a group of people who love arguing, (yeah I'm guilty of this as well.)


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If i ever sell the armor (which i wont but whatever), you'll see your 100k, you aren't getting it otherwise, you got your fair share, everyone got their "fair" share, sorry to see you're still too stubborn to realize that nothing was done unfair.

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omg rune... just, omg.... That is... :neutral:...

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omg rune... just, omg.... That is... :neutral:...


Wah, I just wanted to put my 2cents in before they closed this thread. ;P

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the fat girls was great, now please guys stop. Otherwise i'll go into (REINHELD MOD MODE) hahah

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:47 am 
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Hello, it's been quite a some time that i've visited \(^^)/. I barely talk in forums, i hardly did when i was in CKD except for the private section to get information and such. So to many buddies of mine in CKD - my bad for not saying hi more often. Usually i /tell it to u anyway ~.~.

I recieved a tell from my buddy last night and he told me about this thread and how my name was being thrown around. Of course, i figured i might as well come and defend myself. /insert sarcastic yay

Yarr, you sure have a way with words. You always did ;). And, a lot of what you wrote is true* but it's true with an asterik. "*" denotes that a lot of what you wrote was worded, gnarled, and contorted in such a way that fit your views and detract a bit from the actual facts. of course, this is typical whenever someone recounts their story. there are 3 sides to a story - your side, the other person's side, and the truth. Imma try my best to remain as objective as i can be.
Am i going to sit here and pick out each and lil' thing your wrote that was true* - nah i'm not. Largely b/c its 7am and im tired and you wrote so much. but, here's a quick small meaningless example - you claim that you never had anyone threaten to leave your ls as much as aiame did. Bro, reinheld used to leave the shell/threaten to leave the shell a lot. btw, rein no disrespect to you, i had to mention your name b/c it would be a pointless example without getting into specifics - my bad if ur offended. Ss used to have his bouts as well. SS much <3. i just had to use the name my bad.

Shiloh, i am actually heartbroken by what you had to say about me. I cant quote it exactly but it *seems* as if you are suggesting that i was "only around for event and loot" - ergo making me a loot whore. ... Ouch shiloh. Ouch. Shil, do you even know the things i got from CKD? i can count them on one hand shil - Joyeuse, Zenith Mitts, VV ring, Genbu Shield, Suppanomi. and out of the 5 things i walked away with from ckd... i had to win lots on Joyeuse, VVring, and Genbu shield. gilzz was nice enuff to pass on mitts since i had money at the time to craft them. (this was during halloween). the other drops i had to lot 900+ in order to win - well genbu shield was lotted agaisnt katrianna and me so that dont count. VVring - i was one button away from passing and letting yarr keep it but kayne and ilma and even yarr said keep it. yarr didnt mind. Basically what im suggesting is - you really cant accuse me of being a loot whore when i hardly have "loots". the ONLY reason why i have those items is b/c i was very blessed to roll high enuff to win. But still, i was one of the more active participants of CKD when it came to events. Hell i think even yarr would admit to this fact. so the comment u made about how i just showed up for events and loots ... i was busy lvling SMN - are you suggesting i couldnt lvl my SMN while CKD was doing nothing? -- that hurts bro. it hurts more when i think back to all those times i did nice things - like get ruby rank10, loan money to kayne so he can get his togi, gave some gil to ilma b/c we lost his orb on a BC run, help to stay around after dynamis events to refresh ppl, help rein help his buddy get eyes for the hakutaku and countless other things i cant recall atm. i mean those few lines u wrote really seem to wrap up my existence in ckd as nothing more as "being around when events happened". But, it shows a nice example of how history get recreated - im really sorry u hold me in this esteem shiloh.

Ruby/SS - Thank you guys for posting what appears to be the most objective posts - devoid of emotions/passions/ and any other subjective stuff. Ruby did mention something that i felt should be clarified - in a private thread i used the word "help" a lot when i was confronted with the issue of camping with monarchy. When i was asked about it, i was nothing short of 100% truthful about what i was doing it and why. i was helping my buddies. plain and simple. they had 9 members in that LS and they wanted to try genbu and i said sure ill help - no biggie. I do fault myself for not clearing up assumptions i made tho...

for example "sure i'll help = 1) im not lotting on any of ur loot aside from an occasional materials drop
2) Once your LS is big enuff to stand on ur own two feet i am leaving.
the second assumption, that i made but never made apparent to ckd, might have been my downfall. i didnt make that fact explicit enuff. did ckd really think i was going to routinely kill gods with an HNM ls thats 20 deep - it seems so, but i wasnt. i was "helping" my friends b/c they had like 9-11 ppl and barely could kill off suzie. yarr confronted me and gave me the ultimatum - he didnt try to reason with me, he didnt try to work things out he just broke the pearl. During this period me and yarr were in constant /tell hell and he was one of the most unpleasant ppl i ever met. his attitude was a strong reason why i didnt say "i choose ckd". he was nothing short of pompious and over zealous. Also, yarr openly admited to me that "this wouldnt be a big deal if b would just return the staff". so as far as me helping my buddies kill genbu - even yarr admitted that wasnt that serious lol.

Eternus, I notice that u seem to know A LOT about how our lotting system works in Monarchy. bro, i welcome u to send me a /tell so we can talk about it. u started cursing at our LS and it seems like ur deeply bothered by how we run things. Whoever ur informant is, which is one of our own, i think even they too dont understand it. seriously bro, send me /tell b/c i really wanna clear up any confusion. i like u - or used to. i was one of the ppl that spoke highly of u during the application process. i will admit that in the very beginning of the Ls, lotting was a bit iffy, largely b/c how do u define "who is more deserving" when u just start out, but ultimately it was nothing serious. considering that we kill the gods daily - how much can someone cry that they didnt get a.adj legs? we worked thru kinks and i seriously think we have figured out how things will get done from now on. remember, we're a maturing ls and we're still working through our own internal mechanics and such.

here's an example of how lotting works : Auger and Icy both can use byakko pants. icy joined our ls about 3 weeks ago - auger has been part of the ls 3 months ago. pants drop - auger is allowed to lot, with others, and icy is asked not to lot. why is icy asked not to lot? b/c u earn ur keeps. icy didnt kill ulli enuff, or spend devastating 50h+ camping stones since he's new. Is that "fair" - if u ask auger she'll say ur dame right its fair. to me it seems fair. icy had no problems with it. the next pair that drop icy will be entitled. no love lost. if icy has a problem he will say something.

Hcc u said something but u said a lot and i cant remember im so tired. I've always respected u - and despite the amemet camp thing - i think that was just a black hole in our past and i hope that we can forgive and forget and move on with our lives in the game (but it does seem that we have). but if u have any questions man ur 100% free to /tell me. Im not here to argue - argueing equates to nothing more than shouting and yelling and in the end nothing is said and no ones mind is changed. Anyone who wants to discuss this, maybe be enlightened (i know i have after reading some posts good and bad).. send me a /tell.

Hcc- it was ur dynamis remark. im not sure if u were there when this happened but immediately the day after i was kicked from ckd i was in sky camping water with monarchy. so we're camping and ckd comes along. and yarr sends me a /tell "i thought u werent going to camp agaisnt ckd" (he pulled this quote of mine from a private section thread). i replied "yes, thats true under the assumption i am still a ckd member. if im not a ckd member then that no longer holds"..he replies "thats right, ur not a ckd member. so blah blah u cant do ckd dynamis". after he said that i said it in /say to let other CKD members know how childish his remark was. i told yarr to send me a /tell when u grow up. unfortunately i cant receive such a /tell since i black listed him long ago ;/. so as to not going to dynamis - i was banned dude. not my decision.

So with all that said and done imma go to bed and pray that this sillyness just stops. ;).


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Yeah actually crim it isn't the defaulting stuff that got me to start cursing. I just read some of the things Murph said about throwing numbers at gods and you guys having low attendance sometimes (calling it a challenge) and it pissed me off. I was already having a bad day irl and that just was the straw that broke the camels back, so I went off on one of my well known rants (my RL friends know this well). I don't hate anyone in your LS and you guys have been cool with me in the past. I just don't like it when my friends see things in the LS they are in that could easily be fixed and could definitely raise morale. I don't want you guys to wipe to Kirin... and you shouldn't really but you made mistakes which is what humans do. I don't want to see my friends in your LS especially down about losing to gods/hnms or anything for that matter. If they are unhappy it pisses me off, and I know they are problems you guys can fix easily.

The other stuff I said was pure observation of what Murph said about camping and killing gods with other ppl while still in CKD to get what he "needed". Not only is that against the rules of CKD (the LS he was in at the time) but it is greedy to not wait til CKD will kill those gods again and you can lot on those items later. Maybe at that point in time CKD didn't have the best attendance or jobs available and lost a few times to certain gods Murph wanted drops from, but from what he said he didn't have the patience to wait it out and missed out on the great LS CKD is now because he "needed" certain items. When asked to stop doing gods with another LS he made a decision, one that I don't think is correct.

Look I have friends outside CKD that may never get the chance to do gods. As bad as I want them to get in a LS like CKD so they can experience end-game for themselves, I know I can't help them with that BECAUSE IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Just because these friends can't do gods at the current time doesn't mean I am going to go behind CKD's back and do gods with these people. I joined CKD knowing what the rules were and I can't get mad if I break them and Yarr kicks me for it (I haven't broken any rules though so I don't fear being kicked). Unlike some other people I would give my osede and any other LS items I had back to Yarr if I got kicked or left LS or quit the game for that matter. Not doing these things would make you a shady person and it surprises me Dragonb did this actually. I did a promyvion with you guys before when I was in Hokuten and you guys were cool as hell. That is why some of this behaviour surprises me.

When I first joined CKD I thought you would be there Crim and when I found out why you guys weren't in LS it not only confused me, it made me sad to find out why. You didn't have to do that to help out your friends, if you waited longer they could have most likely gotten into CKD themselves and experienced end game with you in this LS. But you guys were impatient... I waited for Aalan to get accepted to CKD (he is my RL friend) and I didn't get impatient and backstab this LS so I could help him before he got in. I could name Sirfalas as another example.. I wanted him to get Scorpion Harness badly and I still do (I fear he might have quit), but I won't backstab this LS to do so.

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When i was asked about it, i was nothing short of 100% truthful about what i was doing it and why. i was helping my buddies. plain and simple. they had 9 members in that LS and they wanted to try genbu and i said sure ill help - no biggie.


Thats Breaking a Rule right there. dosen't mattar how you word it. thats Breaking a LS Rule. Now yarr Ask you to Stop and didn't so you were Removed Simple.

i just have one Question.

Why would you call Aiame and Dragonb Friends over the ppl in CKD that helped you get your VV ring or ur Bst Af2 or Wyvern glove abj. (can't remeber name of it). why would Call ppl who Stole from your LS to make an Competeing LS?

ok another question lol

How could you not See Yarr or any of the LS get mad at you for Helping them kill these gods?

When Ever i do something that is close to the Rules i always Ask yarr or the LS and see what they think. i don't do it and hope it all works out.

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man...this sucks i always considered murph to be the nicest of the 4-5 people in monarchy i actually know the name of.

Btw crim, nice of you to play down Only getting VV ring joyeuse Z mitts and genbu shield, thats more stuff then some of have gotten in twice the time you were in here


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Went to bed at page 3 and wake up at page 5... wtf

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Shiloh, i am actually heartbroken by what you had to say about me. I cant quote it exactly but it *seems* as if you are suggesting that i was "only around for event and loot" - ergo making me a loot whore. ... Ouch shiloh. Ouch. Shil, do you even know the things i got from CKD? i can count them on one hand shil - Joyeuse, Zenith Mitts, VV ring, Genbu Shield, Suppanomi. and out of the 5 things i walked away with from ckd... i had to win lots on Joyeuse, VVring, and Genbu shield. gilzz was nice enuff to pass on mitts since i had money at the time to craft them. (this was during halloween). the other drops i had to lot 900+ in order to win - well genbu shield was lotted agaisnt katrianna and me so that dont count. VVring - i was one button away from passing and letting yarr keep it but kayne and ilma and even yarr said keep it. yarr didnt mind. Basically what im suggesting is - you really cant accuse me of being a loot whore when i hardly have "loots". the ONLY reason why i have those items is b/c i was very blessed to roll high enuff to win. But still, i was one of the more active participants of CKD when it came to events. Hell i think even yarr would admit to this fact. so the comment u made about how i just showed up for events and loots ... i was busy lvling SMN - are you suggesting i couldnt lvl my SMN while CKD was doing nothing? -- that hurts bro. it hurts more when i think back to all those times i did nice things - like get ruby rank10, loan money to kayne so he can get his togi, gave some gil to ilma b/c we lost his orb on a BC run, help to stay around after dynamis events to refresh ppl, help rein help his buddy get eyes for the hakutaku and countless other things i cant recall atm. i mean those few lines u wrote really seem to wrap up my existence in ckd as nothing more as "being around when events happened". But, it shows a nice example of how history get recreated - im really sorry u hold me in this esteem shiloh.


I didn't know what to put in that little page, I included everyone but Icy because I didn't even think of him at that point. Sorry Crim but we never "hung out" and I don't know you hardly at all, I didn't even know you had a Joyeuse and I'm definately not throwing out the word "loot whore" because the only items I even remembered you winning was a Genbu Shield and the VV ring and the only reason I remember those 2 things is cause of a post you made in the privates about wanting to go kill Genbu cause you were of the level to lot on it and because I was at the VV kill because there was just what? 5 of us there that killed him?

So I'm not going to go so far as to throw out the word loot whore about you Crim. All I do want to point out is that you didn't seem to like to camp NM's and stuff and you spent a lot of time leveling in order to become an asset to the LS... and then you left. I don't know you well enough to throw out accusations like that, I'm just pointing out what I saw from my own perspective. I know you participated in far more than just level, loot, level, loot, but hell, this thread turned into a shout match and I was pissed and to be honest, I felt shitty posting anything about you at all because I had no idea what happened with you in reality, hell, I'm still lost on the "real" reason half of you left.

Icy, I'm simply convinced you wanted out of CKD and was looking for a reason to leave... I tried to ask you to work out that dispute with Vol but apparently you blacklisted him making that impossible. Vol was wrong for cussing you out but this should have been worked out another way.

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No you shouldn't have done started apologizing to him but you shouldn't have blacklisted him and quit the shell which proves nothing. Volrath was in the wrong for going off on you but you should have let Kayne or Ilm handle the situation. I would've given you 200k to keep you happy and in the LS but that isn't the reason you were upset. You told me Vol had upset you a few times before with loot and such but private matters should be handled privately until they get out of hand like this one did. Still makes me sick that you left us because you had a problem with one person because I thought you were awesome...

Crim, I went back and read practically ever single thread you were involved in. I think I see where you were coming from and why I saw the situtation the way I saw it. Not because I have some personal vendetta but because of my playing hours and because quite a bit of these things happened while I was in the hospital for almost 2 weeks getting my epilepsy monitored. The fact that we never really hung out and that I really didn't do outside events with CKD members but with friends in Mysidians is why my perspective was so skewed.

I'm out of this f***ing arguement, I'll probably keep reading this but I'm going to end up having people screw up what I think of as a pretty good reputation because of things I'd say and I value my reputation much more than proving a point on an internet forum... but if people continue to insult my friends I think I may go off...

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Ok then, last post I swear...

Hypothetical Question: If Vol hadn't asked for the ingot at 1/2 price but Ilma or Kayne had, would you have had a problem with that? This is strictly hypothetical meaning that Ilma or Kayne wanted to make the ingot into a Haubargeon for one of their jobs, say... DRK. I just want to know if this was simply a problem with Vol or if it was simply a question of rules.

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When i was asked about it, i was nothing short of 100% truthful about what i was doing it and why. i was helping my buddies. plain and simple. they had 9 members in that LS and they wanted to try genbu and i said sure ill help - no biggie

Thats Breaking a Rule right there. dosen't mattar how you word it. thats Breaking a LS Rule. Now yarr Ask you to Stop and didn't so you were Removed Simple..



That's an interesting point you bring up tal. The rules arent written anywhere. the minor details and fine print you can't find anywhere on the site or in the ls. was i aware of 'the rules' - sure the general dont camp agaisnt competing linkshells like ganamena. was i aware that i couldn't help my friends kill force spawned gods - not exactly. that's one of the main reasons why i didn't bring it up - i honestly didnt see a big problem with it. espcially since i wasnt taking any loots. i literally was there to gravity genbu and give b refresh lol. and again, yarr admitted to it not being a problem. Congrats on killing Nidhogg, you had 3 members of FS help you in your aide - does that warrant Expelsion from FS? i dunno im not the FS leader but comparably our two situations arent all that much different. /shrugs.


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Why would you call Aiame and Dragonb Friends over the ppl in CKD that helped you get your VV ring or ur Bst Af2 or Wyvern glove abj. (can't remeber name of it). why would Call ppl who Stole from your LS to make an Competeing LS?


my bst af2? my wyvern glove adj? - what? i listed the 5 things i won from the previous post.
I never claimed b was my friend, and when did i "call aiame and b over the ppl in ckd?" My buddies from monarch were cyix wain ai and warusha.
Only some members of ckd seem to view the situation as "he choose aiame over all of us" when the reality of the situation was that yarr made that decision for me by breaking my pearl and posting his ultimatum.

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How could you not See Yarr or any of the LS get mad at you for Helping them kill these gods?


who got mad? i remember my private thread to have like 1 responce b4 i was banned from the forum. only yarr got mad - only thing was that yarr wasnt mad about the gods hohoho, he was angry that b had the healing staff - a completly separate issue - that some how was my problem lol.

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When Ever i do something that is close to the Rules i always Ask yarr or the LS and see what they think. i don't do it and hope it all works out.


i comend you for that.

rydall: Nice way to play down my loot? Genbu shield, zenith gloves? those are drops off genbu - one of the easiest HNMs in the game. excuse me if my nipples dont harden enuff for u to notice, but that loot is really isnt worth the excitement. As far as VV and joyeuse, i could give u something else to touch that hardened when i won those ;) - seriously, i claimed to have been blessed to roll high on them - what more u want from me? ticker tape parade that i got VV? ;/

Shiloh and Et: i'm really happy u guys that we cleared the air on that. no love lost at all. i will admit i wasnt intending to post but when i saw the defamation of character i just had to jump in. i know how important rep is. lol. Anyway, i'm just glad that i can clear that up - and if u have any questions just hit me up.


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i'm going to go play a game called final fantasy, fuck this, fuck you, fuck everyone.

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When i was asked about it, i was nothing short of 100% truthful about what i was doing it and why. i was helping my buddies. plain and simple. they had 9 members in that LS and they wanted to try genbu and i said sure ill help - no biggie



That's an interesting point you bring up tal. The rules arent written anywhere. the minor details and fine print you can't find anywhere on the site or in the ls. was i aware of 'the rules' - sure the general dont camp agaisnt competing linkshells like ganamena. was i aware that i couldn't help my friends kill force spawned gods - not exactly. that's one of the main reasons why i didn't bring it up - i honestly didnt see a big problem with it. espcially since i wasnt taking any loots. i literally was there to gravity genbu and give b refresh lol. and again, yarr admitted to it not being a problem. Congrats on killing Nidhogg, you had 3 members of FS help you in your aide - does that warrant Expelsion from FS? i dunno im not the FS leader but comparably our two situations arent all that much different. /shrugs.


Talisin wrote:
Why would you call Aiame and Dragonb Friends over the ppl in CKD that helped you get your VV ring or ur Bst Af2 or Wyvern glove abj. (can't remeber name of it). why would Call ppl who Stole from your LS to make an Competeing LS?


my bst af2? my wyvern glove adj? - what? i listed the 5 things i won from the previous post.
I never claimed b was my friend, and when did i "call aiame and b over the ppl in ckd?" My buddies from monarch were cyix wain ai and warusha.
Only some members of ckd seem to view the situation as "he choose aiame over all of us" when the reality of the situation was that yarr made that decision for me by breaking my pearl and posting his ultimatum.

Talisin wrote:
How could you not See Yarr or any of the LS get mad at you for Helping them kill these gods?


who got mad? i remember my private thread to have like 1 responce b4 i was banned from the forum. only yarr got mad - only thing was that yarr wasnt mad about the gods hohoho, he was angry that b had the healing staff - a completly separate issue - that some how was my problem lol.

Talisin wrote:
When Ever i do something that is close to the Rules i always Ask yarr or the LS and see what they think. i don't do it and hope it all works out.


i comend you for that.

rydall: Nice way to play down my loot? Genbu shield, zenith gloves? those are drops off genbu - one of the easiest HNMs in the game. excuse me if my nipples dont harden enuff for u to notice, but that loot is really isnt worth the excitement. As far as VV and joyeuse, i could give u something else to touch that hardened when i won those ;) - seriously, i claimed to have been blessed to roll high on them - what more u want from me? ticker tape parade that i got VV? ;/

Shiloh and Et: i'm really happy u guys that we cleared the air on that. no love lost at all. i will admit i wasnt intending to post but when i saw the defamation of character i just had to jump in. i know how important rep is. lol. Anyway, i'm just glad that i can clear that up - and if u have any questions just hit me up.



Crim just so you know, unlike certain ls's FS is our ally, and if they needed help the favor would be returned gracefully.


Also for the record, i was there. theres no denying, yarr never threatened you. He wondered what you were doing, and even held back taking action on you for ME. Yarr asked you crim , he never forced you out of CKD , he asked you to stop camping with monarch not because he didn't like them, no it was because it was against the rules. These rules were discussed while you where still there after the skye thing. YOu can't even throw the skye thing because yarr asked him to stop and skye listened. You however refused, you yourself said i'm not gonna stop doing gods with them cause i'm helping my friends. So yarr went and followed his rule which btw almost all LS's have. You know if you simply would asked yarr if you can help them with 1 god or even 2 he probably would have let you. Crim don't take what i said personal, because you and me both know , that i was crushed when you left ckd. I'll even say it publicly , i wanted to come with you. But yarr is my friend too, i can't just leave him behind.

Another thing, honestly the time has come for b and aiame to stop using you guys as body bags, you guys are taking bullets for them and i don't understand why. Why should alderan and a few others that post in these forums have to suffer because of what happened? Enough is enough

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Crim,

I was aggrevated by what murph posted so I spoke out. I didn't have problem with you or murph leaving since you guys picked it and did let us know (Seriously I didn't care at all before this thread, but I just felt like I needed to post those information after him and some other of your ls started messing around here.)

But I want you guys to know, we didn't start this crap in this thread. And I do not know why other people like to provoke arguements on our forum.

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Icy, its not hard to come by 100k at endgame seriously... ill give you 100k, it takes no time to make that kind of money... no offense to anyone... just seems stupid to make such a fuss about 100k.

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if this fight keeps on hcc is gonna come to my house and ass rape me till i bleed.


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