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wow, yarr really does make alot of assumptions. No more from me, you guys can bash us as much as you like.

And it is true, whatever good accomplishments we do, you guys always, always downgrade us. I'm not saying the whole LS does, but certain key members do which really is a pitty and doesn't reflect all that well on CKD as a whole.
As a FS, we have always supported you guys, and congratulated you guys in your accomplishments. Being called a cheat, botters, .dat file removers is just not cool and uncalled for.
I hope you guys are happy now. because you have pissed alot of people off, and i'd expect an appology, especially towards Dustdevil.



If you want to talk about me making assumptions I should bring up your fishing fun so why dont you just go back to the side lines and stop.

There are members of FS who I love very much. There are also a hand full of FS members who I feel have really supported Cheeseburgers over their own hunger for Drops. Those people know who they are.

I also never said flat out that Dustdevil used bots. I simply said gave the information I had and pointed out what we saw.

What am I suppose to think? I get people inside FS telling me how upset they are about this thread talking about editing .dat files and how Vaelen thinks its ok and how a few members also thought it was a good idea. Then when the kings are in our timer FS starts out pulling all the other NA linkshells. They beat out not just CKD, they beat Valor too dont forget.

Besides kids, youre still dancing around the original point.

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Your point is? We asked friends for help and we all thanked you guys and your members for helping. I don't get what your trying to say?

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FS people are mad because of the incredibly mean comments said after Fafnir. I have screenshots but I'm in game on my other computer atm. I'm quite sure someone flat out said something to the effect of "Yeah, I'd claim Nidhogg too if I removed .dat files." Get the fuck over it please, it was fair and this is all unnecessary drama. Just stop.


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Holy crap... Mikey's a Mexican?

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i've heard mikey, he's a fucking yankee ROFL mikey


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What the fuck is the point of this post?

People were getting over it.

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I have a very high opinion of both those players. I was more than happy to have Corwin join the ranks of the Dojo. Myskhal has always been a fantastic help in Cheeseburgers and was an easy choice for CKDFerrows. I fail to see what your point in this is? or how it ties into the Nidhogg subject.

or perhaps this is just you being bitter still over dynamis and losing out on a garbage piece of loot that you only wanted to wear and "show off"

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Stop trying to act all big and bad like "we killed it, you guys didnt". Because its obvious that without those ppl (WHMs and RDMs are key members in that fight) you wouldnt have even been able to take it down to that 100hp that FS was able to bring it down to.

So if you are saying we didnt kill it? Then how can you claim you did? Because you got the title? There would have been no title, no drops, no "100hp for it to be stolen at" if it was CKD only. From that perspective, FS accomplished more than CKD did against Nidhogg.

Next time, we will just be sure to bring other ppl from different LS's so that we can get the title.


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conerning fishing, yes i admit i botted once. but not anymore. If you want to tarnish my reputation go right ahead. i personally don't care. I like the majority of CKD, but its a pitty that a select few stuffs it up for everyone.

yarr. if you want to take this on a personal level, maybe you should be a man and give me a tell and talk this over personally.

I love fishing and i love it even now. People make mistakes.

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SS sums it up, I haven't heard shit all day, can we please just stop. :neutral:


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Stop trying to act all big and bad like "we killed it, you guys didnt". Because its obvious that without those ppl (WHMs and RDMs are key members in that fight) you wouldnt have even been able to take it down to that 100hp that FS was able to bring it down to.


Actually now that i think of it arthars comment is what started all this shit talking ahaha. Anyway you guys had outside help too so whatever. I dont think CKD or FS did particularly good at nidhogg heh.


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Lplau wrote:
yeh i heard that too.. Yarr uses bots, oh but i don't have proof of that. hmm well thats the rumor atleast


Please don't take this the wrong way....


I've heard of you botting quite a bit and even getting put in jail for it several times...


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conerning fishing, yes i admit i botted once. but not anymore. If you want to tarnish my reputation go right ahead. i personally don't care. I like the majority of CKD, but its a pitty that a select few stuffs it up for everyone.

yarr. if you want to take this on a personal level, maybe you should be a man and give me a tell and talk this over personally.

I love fishing and i love it even now. People make mistakes.



I'm just making a point that's all. You fish botted, ok fine, thats up to everyone else to make of it what they want. Does it speak for the whole ls? no, but it does negate most of the crap youve been throwing out.

Seriously, guys, this is all because of dynamis and you really just dont want to admit it.

Its like every week you guys have a different scapegoat.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:12 pm 
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hey i fish botted. does it make me a bad person? does it make me a dishonouablre person.
For people who know me, you'd agree that am a very good person. you can disregard what i have said in this thread, but seriously i ahve nothing against you guys, and my opinion is solely based i what i have observed in these forums and from what CKD people have said in-game during the past few months. nothing more, nothing less.


Besides who started all this drama? It wasn't FS. hmm i guesss who... oh right it was CKD and a few select of their key members. Seriously guys, how about just drop it. As much as i love drama, this is getting quite ridiculous.

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I don't even know why FS is mad at us. We didn't do shit to piss anyone off. Like Yarr said: we didn't steal the mob like Valour did, and we didn't killsteal the mob like Arthars did.

I can't imagine what the drama would be like if we pulled what Valour or Arthars did, seeing as how the only thing we did was show up and lose exp to being MPKed.


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Geeze... Just /t me in game, honestly I don't care if any of you bot or any of you cheat or whatever, that's on your conscience, not mine. Seriously just tell me in game and I'll deal with it on a person to person basis. Only a select few members said anything afterwards during that fight and it's been delt with. I'm already in between 6 tell sessions as it is, 6 more won't matter...

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Besides who started all this drama? It wasn't FS. hmm i guesss who... oh right it was CKD and a few select of their key members. Seriously guys, how about just drop it. As much as i love drama, this is getting quite ridiculous.


Like i said arthars pretty much started all this heh.

After distroing loot he said something along the lines of "Grats FS you sucked at this way less than CKD". Then Fatt something like "Yea but we killed it they diddnt" and i said something like "Yea sorry we diddnt have 60 people in the zone for it" or whatever.

Its so obvious the only reason he guys helped you out was to spite CKD for making fun of him about the 'hardcore' thing. Seeing all the people bow to him and shit... its like wow your fuckin' lame lol.


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i think people are mad because of what was said after the battle, what was said in the original thread that was in these forums that was later deleted, what was said on our forums, and what was implyed by yarr in this thread.

This thread serves no purpose except leading to more drama, and i'm sure yarr knew our exact reaction when posting this thread. the drama was dying down today, but someone just had to bring it up again today.

anyway no more posts from me now. This is wasting my time.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:24 pm 
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hey i fish botted. does it make me a bad person? does it make me a dishonouablre person.
For people who know me, you'd agree that am a very good person. you can disregard what i have said in this thread, but seriously i ahve nothing against you guys, and my opinion is solely based i what i have observed in these forums and from what CKD people have said in-game during the past few months. nothing more, nothing less.


Besides who started all this drama? It wasn't FS. hmm i guesss who... oh right it was CKD and a few select of their key members. Seriously guys, how about just drop it. As much as i love drama, this is getting quite ridiculous.


Sorry but even if you stopped cheating you still cheated which makes you a cheater =\ I don't even know why people bother to cheat in life. It makes no sense and gets you nowhere. I think the last time I ever cheated was in Diablo 1 back in 1997 and I stopped after two days when I saw how stupid doing it was. What's the point in playing a game, especially paying for it, if you don't earn your own rewards? Even in a single player game it's stupid to use cheats, because it's like you wasted your money on it just to half-ass your way through it. It's the same reason why I always play through on the hardest mode... don't see any reason not to.


Maybe he did the same thing you did and stopped after he saw how stupid it was? Lol

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About the helping thing..

Just gonna be blunt about this..

Yes when corwin and mysk helped us fight nidhogg, we needed those jobs to fill in since it was early and since CKD is a small size LS no one was on. We asked them, and it just happens that they were happy to help. We thanked them, plus we thanked all the other FS who wasn't there to help for the sake of it. That was all dandy.

Yesturday:
We seriously think you guys had enough there for 2nd round. You had a count of more than 60 FS there.. Do you really need our help? Not to mention we did help. I personally cured with hccmike + synergy, + raisedIIIed a bunch of FS, without anyone of you asking us to.. Did we get any thanks? no. Myk /bow me that was all.

Do you think 60 of you can't take down Nidhogg? Obviously you guys can, you got it down to 100hp before you "Purposely" let Arthar take it to finish it off. This is all understandable.

At the end we were mad that Arthar took yoru claim.. That was it.

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i think people are mad because of what was said after the battle, what was said in the original thread that was in these forums that was later deleted, what was said on our forums, and what was implyed by yarr in this thread.

This thread serves no purpose except leading to more drama, and i'm sure yarr knew our exact reaction when posting this thread. the drama was dying down today, but someone just had to bring it up again today.

anyway no more posts from me now. This is wasting my time.



Actually my post was made to clear up where we are coming from. I gave you the info given to us. I gave you the info of what happend at the fight. I gave you the info on how we feel.

If you guys dont edit your dat files then why even bring up that part? Why get so defensive? Theres a reason people get really defensive.

I mean really, why dont you try and accuse CKD of botting in any form? We would just laugh it off and no one would believe you.

When someone accuses FS of botting all the sudden its like world war three.

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Kayne...

I used God Mode on the Doom Shareware verison. (Please forgive me)

I still remember the code, haha.

IDDQD for life!

I never used cheats on games until I'd completed them already. Once you've already beat the game on it's hardest mode you can squeeze a little more fun out of it by throwing in Unlimited Ammo and stuff.

Oh, but then there are those games that force you to beat Normal before you can play Hard, and then you gotta beat that to unlock the Hardest mode. Damn cheesy way to make you play through the whole damn game again 3 times, lol.


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so now we see the true nature of FS. We are first place because we make the first kill, we set the path for all alother linkshells to follow. I care about the kill.

I guess you guys care about the loot more than the thrill of the kill. Just one more reason I stand up for my linkshell and what we have done rather than what we have won.

Im sorry for you and those who think your in this game for fun.


I hope you don't wonder why you get on people's nerves sometimes.

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Im still trying to figure out why people are mad at CKD?

The only thing FS is mad at CKD about is that we are making valid points in retrospec.


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Why not look at this in retrospect? In 545 Days of available playtime on the Ifrit server, people who have played over 150 days (6.6 hours a day of online time over a period 1.5 years) just now got an Adaman Haubrek. Does that not disgust you in any way at all, especially since it was obtained in such a drama bomb? Really think about this, since neither the root cause of Yarr's or Vaelen's LS' problems come from the NA community. Yes, I'm talking about KFC, the formless, hated group of random (probably decent) individuals who happen to be governed by irrationally greedy politics. KFC, despite being hated, are prosperous. They are very, very wealthy. Yarr's and Vaelen's LS' are also, very, very wealthy. Not as wealthy as KFC, but none the less you enjoy Noble's Tunics, Cursed Gear, and you probably never have to worry about gil to buy that cursed gear. Most other NA players can't get any of this. I've played this game from NA release (played in moderation anyway), and I haven't broken a million gil yet, I can't afford cursed gear, and I probably won't get Noble's or AF2 before I quit the game. I've really sort of stopped caring, but my friends in FS enjoy these luxuries, and I'm happy for them. They and you all in CKD enjoy things most other players can never, ever have. You are prosperous, yet you are also very proud. While not the worst thing in the word (and certainly not elititism), participants in this forum are bitching over a drop, criticiszing each other, and have generally demeaning Fatesealer's, the LS, for taking a drop that they worked 545 days to get. While FS can't be proud of the fact that they had to get it from Arthars, you can't blame them, Yarr, for taking what they could get. While you can go off paving the way for future Linkshells, I still have to wonder how the hell I'm supposed to get enough gil and time to keep going to Dynamis and to support my friends and Linkshell. Stop being so petty and stop dragging this steaming stack of drama into the public spotlight. I'm tired of seeing stuff like this. I respect both Yarr and Vaelen as leaders, in all honesty, you've done wonders for your Linkshells. But you two aren't enemies. So instead of say that the true nature of Fatesealer members are loot whores (see quote above), Yarr, please let it go? FS refused to take up a stand of honor and pride in a god damn video game, which is supposed to be fun btw, and I don't blame them for having sought that piece of hardware for so #$(#ing long.

And, lastly, Chanalix ... I love you and your post. If I was there, I'd probably be laughing with you.

Edit: Oh man, I'm going to get cut for this post, haha

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