basically where i found mnk/thf helpful was Gustav in the pld-mnk-mnk-brd-whm-rdm parties or replace a mage with blm. or krt pre-asuran

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As opposed from coming from what? Tal is a 75 SAM also if you were discrediting his opinion because you thought he only had BST levelled. I didn't realize you had to have certain jobs levelled to have an opinion. Anyways...



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Well nothing is wrong with your opinion. The only problem with your opinion if you don't have experience with Monk and various sub jobs is facts. Such as an earlier post where someone stated So since I have spent alot of time with /war and /sam I will state some facts.

I'll start with the attributes. Now I have merits in h2h but none in attributes so these will be base attributes for 75MNK Elvaan.

/WAR /sam
str=75 str=73
dex=67 dex=67
vit=73 vit=75
agi=53 agi=51
int=46 int=47
mnd=66 mnd=67
chr=59 chr=60

Now war has 2 more str and a +10 att job trait so /war with have 11 more attack and /sam has 9 more def. Asuron fists is based upon 50% str and 50% vit so you arent losing anything there for that ws.

Now on to my opinion. I think you should use /war until you get lvl 75. Because its safe and you will get into parties easier. Then after you get a few merits and some endgame gear, try out /sam. Personally I love this subjob. And through experiance I can tell you that I get alot more tp per cycle. I get double the tp per cycal than I do with /war. I will always take my /sam to KRT unless a whiny bitch who doesnt know any better cries about it, then I just take /war. With /sam there is no slowdown in the pt at all. And starting a fusion sc and ending that same sc with light is just fun as hell.

Another thing I've found useful with /sam is on gods. Alot of monks swear by /whm in sky but that isn't your only option. I mean you can get a 1600dmg chi blast so you can brag and have a cute little sig to show people how "uber" you are but you leave out the part about getting owned right after and wasting all the whms mp and getting them owned in the process. With /sam in sky I do a modest 700-1000dmg chi blast. It's not bad extra damage for the alliance and it's usually not gonna make the mob go all kill crazy.

Another thing I like about it is the versitility. If we don't have enough melee for sc then I can throw on melee gear and step right in without missing a beat. And I have no problem with keeping up with the other melee in tp. This is especially useful for Faf since I only have to hit him a few times. Then just disengage, meditate, and wait for the other melee to be ready.

Basically you should try them all and see what is more fun for YOU. And fuck what everyone else thinks.


Holy wall of text batman. Fuck it, I'm not gonna check for grammer. :P

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yeah that's about the only time when mnk/thf is useful in exp pt, but that's only for a few levels so I never thought it was worth lvling up thf sub. I took it to 15 for TH, but that was enough for me (I hated lvling thf).

here's what I did:

lvl 1-74: sub /war for exp.

lvl 75:
In KRT sub /war always.
In sky against weapons, sub /war and maybe /nin, depending on how powerful you have become (if you have capped h2h and capped evasion merits, and uber equipment, sub /nin because /war will draw way too much hate). Against statues sub /war.

The most fun I had my last few weeks playing FFXI was with /nin sub. If I had kept playing I probably would have messed around with soloing, duoing, and trioing stuff with me as the mnk/nin tank. With a rdm and/or a brd, would be fun to see what you could accomplish.

yea like I said, mnk/thf is good for party about that levels. (66-71? Still forgot haha) sets up for light chain & mb with massive dragon kick dmg using sata, which also makes up for losing hits as of using a /war at that level.

+ it puts ur tank in good use irl

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this one day, this monk was /anon in one of my krt pts.

and he sucked.

and i noticed he had sam subbed.

and he sucked compared to the others.

that is all.

maybe he just sucked, but he was obnoxious about it.

i'm not a monk.

but i do have an opinion!

all right!

where ma monk bitches at!

/point matti

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anyways Miewn, get to 75 and try out all the subs.

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bst... the only sub you'll ever need for mnk

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Sub whatever you want - just don't wear a scorpion harness for the love of christ.

It's the new "I'm with stupid" tshirt

I wouldn've killed for a scorp harness when I was playing...

The problem with SH is that everyone's still eating sushi with it, instead of meat. I thought the whole point of +acc gear was to eat attack food or +atk/STR gear with acc food. Oh well maybe I'm missing something.

Sushi is gay too.

When you cap H2H merits you really don't need to worry about Accuracy. I've parsed with a Mnk/Drg in my party and i do a LOT more damage than them. I eat yellow curry, go /war and have at it. /Drg just sucks my balls.

I would say /Thf is ok for.... FARMING!! w00t w00t. 60-71 I used it in Bibiki Bay and closed skillchains, but I mean if you just want the skillchain for MB's, just sub War who cares. /Thf was just a novelty really.

/Sam I don't have leveled yet.... but would probably help me out a lot in Ballista, i'm really bad at Ballista without it.....

/Nin is my crack. I pull a lot of hate anywhere with /war, and even with /Nin. /Nin just saves my ass. I always sub it when I XP in sky or pretty much anywhere else.

I'm in the process of leveling Whm right now. But yeah the thought of getting 1600+ Chi Blasts for e-penis just keeps sounding worse and worse. At least with my 1200 Chi blasts and /Nin I can sit and laugh at Kirin while he tries to hit me. Then the tank get hate back and I go back to boosting. Although with /Whm you could just kite until tank gets hate back.

I'm just old-fashioned, I like my /war. /Drg can get the herrz outta my PT. And /Sam in KRT just seems like a waste. We get TP fast enough as it is. And you can voke if things get outta hand.

Ultimately if you can come to KRT and get chain 40+ with me, that's awesome and you can sub whatever the hell you want. But I just haven't had good experiences with /Drg or /Sam or /Thf in KRT.

Too many monks now. Go level something useful....like THF.

I use /war, SH, and sushi but that's only cause I have no H2H merits atm.

...that and i'm elvaan. All the +acc gear in the world and I still couldnt hit Oprah Winfrey standing next to a white wall.

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Yeah, no kidding. . . lol seems like half the server has decided to say, "Oh man, I gotta level Monk!" I'd start leveling DRG but I kinda have this fear that DRG is gonna make a comeback or something to cancel out the popularity of Monk.

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If you level Monk to 75, it unlocks Blue Mage. You didnt know?

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THF75 | MNK75 | DRK 75

I stopped leveling alot of jobs and decided to not level others cause of everyone and their mom being one.

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Mik, you should take that gusto for leveling things, and go focus on leveling up your Fishing skirr. o_ob

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I can't mash macros while fishing though, I'll get bored to fook. I'm leveling BRD now anyways

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That's the real reason that everyone's a monk

fuck mnk/whm haha wtf for? oh and just sj nin always cuz im sick of healin you gay ass overpowered mnks

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i second that. hence its the easiest job

btw dont go war too. buncha poser war/nin dumbfucks who dual weild at 20-49 and think their hot shit

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75war/nin&thf-retired||54blm/30whm-retired again

I hate that so much.